ODefeat - Defeat Reborn

[Project OStim]

ODefeat - Defeat Reborn

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ODefeat

The much anticipated next generation defeat mod has arrived.
This is not a port of SL Defeat. Rather, it's a new and modern take on it built from the ground up with new features.

 

Features:
- Assault NPCs, or get assaulted yourself when losing a battle
- A new dynamic minigame, OStruggle, with a new mechanic
- Special animations
- Full OStim integration. Controls optionally lock up when your character is being assaulted.
- Full follower and multi-scene support 
- Special first person animations if using the OStim first person improved cam setup
- Can break out of OStim scenes where you are being assaulted
- Advanced system for dropping the player in a safe spot after a victim scene ends
- Heavy design emphasis on reliablity, and smoothness
- Modular post-defeat-scene system similar to Death Alternative
- Built in tutorial

OStruggle - a new mid-combat minigame


Seamless and modular post-defeat event system


 

 

Scene initiation
Pressing the G key by default on an npc will cause you to throw them to the ground and initiate a OStruggle minigame. If you win, the NPC will enter Knockout. The will recover from this when you leave the area or about 15 minutes passes. In the meantime, pressing G on them again will start a OStim scene with them

You can also have scenes initiated on you by other NPCs. When you run out of health in combat, a nearby enemy may grab you and start an OStruggle game on you. If you lose, your character and your followers will all be assaulted, and then either killed or dropped somewhere nearby.

OStruggle - a new minigame
Instead of using health thresholds, bashes, and random numbers to determine when an ODefeat sex scene should start, a new mechanic called OStruggle is added. When you press G on an NPC in combat, or you run out of health and are assaulted, the OStruggle minigame begins. You and the NPC are tossed to the ground in a special animation, and a bar appears on screen. You must alternate between mashing two buttons to either make the bar fill up (player attacker) or drain the bar (player victim). The NPC you are battling against will fight back as well, trying to push the bar in the opposite direction. How hard they fight back is determined by a special algorithm. The following factors change the difficulty of the npc:

- Their level relative to yours
- Their health
- Whether or not you caught them by suprise
- more, including bonuses for catching a sleeping npc or an npc in bleedout

Playing ODefeat as an attacker is a bit like pokemon. You will likely be able to win against random low level bandits without even harming them first, but boss enemies will need their health reduced before you start an OStruggle attack against them for you to have a fighting chance. Alternatively you can use stealth and catch them by suprise. When you defeat an NPC in a struggle, they enter Knockout. More on that below.

When your player is attacked upon running out of health, it is much the same, except you are tring to reduce the bar to 0 to escape. If you escape, you regain some health and have another chance to fight.

Keep in mind winning struggles while below level 5 is extremely difficult

More OStruggle mechanics
ODefeat integrates with OCrime. With OCrime installed, doing an OStruggle attack on an NPC is a serious crime in most holds. Additionally, the resulting OStim scene is considered illegal and will draw the attention of guards that will give you an extra large fine and try to attack you outright. Without OCrime installed, OStruggle attacks will just make the NPC attack you back when they recover.

When you are attacking an NPC, their clothes are stripped off as the bar gets filled. Additionally, during both player attacker and player victim games, you will deal small damage to each other depending on who is winning the struggle.

When you are being assaulted after losing all of your health, combat is temporarily stopped with a new and reliable SKSE technique so you aren't killed. Combat is NOT stopped when YOU are attacking an NPC with a struggle, so make sure the area is somewhat safe when trying to attack an NPC (unless you have some good armor or something)

Knockout
After you beat an NPC at an OStruggle game as an attacker, they enter Knockout and play a special animation. They cannot get up until about 15 minutes passes or you leave the area. You can then press G on that NPC to actually start the OStim scene with them. With this system, you can Knockout multiple enemies during a battle, then have sex with all of them afterwards.

Being defeated, and waking up afterwards
ODefeat uses a reliable Deferred Kill method to track the player during combat. When you die in combat, if your enemies have no morality, one of them will come over to you and start an OStruggle battle with you. When you lose, an OStim scene starts involving you and your followers. Afterwards, you will either be killed, or you will wake up outside of the camp, or wherever. You can also choose to have belongings over a certain threshold stolen and placed in that NPC's inventory.

Breaking out mid-scene
If you are being assaulted, during an OStim scene you can press G to try to escape. You must have full stamina to try. If your stamina is full, an OStruggle game starts. If you succeed, you will escape with some health back. Otherwise you will lose all of your stamina again.

Followers work too
When you lose a battle and get assaulted, your followers are also captured and assaulted nearby as well. This supports up to 10 active followers, and 10 active OStim scenes at once. 

OStim integration
OSA control is optionally locked during player-victim scenes. Additionally, scenes marked as aggressive are chosen by OStim if they exist. The automatic speed control algorithim is also slightly tweaked to be more aggressive, during ODefeat scenes. On average ODefeat scenes will be slightly shorter. 

First person & the camera
OStruggle scenes are made for OStim's improved camera setup. If you use third person or the vanilla camera, everything will still work fine.

Getting dumped outside of a bandit camp/fort has a special animation if in first person.

A focus on reliability 
One of the main goals of this mod was to be as reliable and jank-free as Skyrim will allow. A lot of testing and effort went into it working properly 100% of the time. A lot of extra work went into developing special SKSE plugin API calls for ODefeat to use.

Modular post-scene events
Mod authors can take advantage of a simple system involving .json files to add new events to ODefeat post-player-victim-scene.

Misc
Pressing G on a dead npc will unequip a part of their armor. You can also open a knocked down npc's inventory by pressing E on them.

Requirements and compatibility

Requires:
    - OStim (latest) (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/40725) 
    - Po3's papyrus extender (make sure to update, it is frequently updated) (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22854)
    - Nemesis or FNIS (RUN AFTER INSTALL)
    - nl_mcm (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/49127)

Works with:
    - OCrime, adds crime and bounty support to ODefeat. Link @ nexus page
 

Incompatiblities:     
Player victim is not compatible with Death Alternative(and similar mods)'s deferred kill system due to both using deferred kill. You can use them at the same time but you have to choose between ODefeat's player victim and DA's deferred kill. 
Due to this system, once you enable player victim you cannot disable it or remove ODefeat. Victim is disabled by default so you can choose if you want this. Deferred kill was chosen as the main victim scene initiation method for its high reliablity. 

Default controls:
G - Start a struggle; Break out of a player victim scene; start a scene with a knocked-out npc; strip a dead npc;
E (activate key) - Rob a knocked-out npc

To win the struggle: Press left-shift, followed by right-shift alternating, as fast as you can
Press spacebar to give up

FAQ
> Will there be NPC capturing and bagging for player-aggressor?
That was a fun system but it was very unbalanced in the orignal defeat. But it was a lot of fun so I want to reimplement that as an addon to this in the future.

> Will this support other frameworks in the future?
No

Authorship, thanks and credits
Concept, design, and original prototype - Sairion
Lots of work on the code and the entirety of the event system - OsmosisWrench 
Animation - Leito

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Permissions
Permission from me is required to modify or reupload this.

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• Submitter
  Project OStim
• Submitted
  09/16/2021
• Category
  Combat Sex
• Requires
  OStim, Po3's papyrus extender, Nemesis, NL_MCM
• Regular Edition Compatible
  No

 

Edited September 16, 2021 by Project OStim

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Edited September 16, 2021 by Project OStim

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[Someone92]

This sounds nice, I'll have to try it out once I get home.

 

edit:

Tested it out, what I have to say is annoying that struggling is left SHIFT right SHIFT, forcing you to move your hand from your mouse to the keyboard.

 

edit2:

Disregard what I said earlier, noctied you can change that in the MCM.

Edited September 16, 2021 by Someone92

[waveee]

It seems that you'll be needing a clean new save. Installing this mod mid-game causes problems like player immortal and the scene will not start. Tested and hope for solutions.

[monsta88]

From the desc "You can also choose to have belongings over a certain threshold stolen and placed in that NPC's inventory."

 

How do you ensure that the NPC does not despawn with your gear?

 

I lost my gear in DCL just like this. IMHO it would be better if the gear would end up in a secret chest somewhere and get them back when the robber NPC is beaten. So even if the NPC disappears, the gear can be recovered by debug features or something.

[Sairion]

34 minutes ago, monsta88 said:

From the desc "You can also choose to have belongings over a certain threshold stolen and placed in that NPC's inventory."

 

How do you ensure that the NPC does not despawn with your gear?

 

I lost my gear in DCL just like this. IMHO it would be better if the gear would end up in a secret chest somewhere and get them back when the robber NPC is beaten. So even if the NPC disappears, the gear can be recovered by debug features or something.

Magic.

[4nk8r]

Never thought something like this would show up in the "O branch" of the Skyrim sex world.  Looking forward to giving it all a spin soon.

 

I hope someone somewhere is working on a Sexlab/OSex/FlowerGirls event bridge to tie all these frameworks together...share stats at least.

[Someone92]

Haven'T used OStim before, is it possible to not have the menu in the button left show up every time the anim is changed? The controls as a victim are disabled anyway.

[jfraser]

this looks good. might be the mod that gets me to switch to SE. unless some nice person does an LE backport

[Waveslider1]

Can this run side by side with SL Defeat?

[4nk8r]

17 minutes ago, Waveslider1 said:

Can this run side by side with SL Defeat?

No.  Different frameworks and they don't share info.  The 2 systems would fight each other for control of the situation.  Cause CTD or a game breaking bug in your savegame.

[osmosis-wrench]

You could however add the abillity to call SL Defeat after death events using the modular event system, though you'd need a bit of papyrus experiance to do it.

[4nk8r]

18 minutes ago, osmosis-wrench said:

You could however add the abillity to call SL Defeat after death events using the modular event system, though you'd need a bit of papyrus experiance to do it.

 

So...about that event bridge I mentioned.  Are you or anyone you know about considering/working on something like that?

[EdtheNord]

6 hours ago, waveee said:

It seems that you'll be needing a clean new save. Installing this mod mid-game causes problems like player immortal and the scene will not start. Tested and hope for solutions.

Same.

I have not tried clean save yet. I am no walking around as a headless knight. I kind of like that

[kavater]

Started a new save to test it and it work great. Good work! It's cool to see so many add-ons being developed. Keep it up.

[greenmango12]

?　so I heistate to install Osex  but now I have good reason now.. thanks hope it still work

NPC vs Follower (victim) generated by sexlab frame work,  with PC vs enemy NPC (victim) (Odefeat) if you can..

[4nk8r]

There's a reference to "OCrime", but no link is included and I can't find any reference to "OCrime" for either SE or LE on nexusmods or elsewhere.  Does that mod exist yet?  Anyone have a link?

[Someone92]

14 minutes ago, 4nk8r said:

There's a reference to "OCrime", but no link is included and I can't find any reference to "OCrime" for either SE or LE on nexusmods or elsewhere.  Does that mod exist yet?  Anyone have a link?

https://www.patreon.com/posts/53664531

https://www.patreon.com/posts/53664710

At the moment Patreon-only.

 

Link can be found at:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/40725

Edited September 16, 2021 by Someone92

[ant_9484]

it would be nice if you could edit it so only the player can activate the scenes

 

 

edit: nvm i found the settings

Edited September 16, 2021 by ant_9484

[EdtheNord]

I install midplay through after cleaning an old save. Now everything else works fine but the post defeat events are not  triggering. None of those triggered even once. It is just vanila reload last save. Must be something preventing the events

[osmosis-wrench]

8 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

 

So...about that event bridge I mentioned.  Are you or anyone you know about considering/working on something like that?

Unfortunately there's just enough difference and complexity in the way OStim and SL work that a one-to-one events bridge is pretty infesible.

 

Porting mods from one framework to the other isn't too complex if you understand papyrus at a basic level, but creating full proxy layer between SL -> OStim or vis-versa that would work for every mod isn't really worth doing. It'd take a long time to develop properly, and would just make both mods a lot slower and more buggy in general.

Making a mod support both on it's end is pretty easy though, a few mods have done that already like BBLS, SDA and Yamete!

[KajsaRikka]

Well, I don't think I'm switching to OStim yet, but it gets likelier every day. Excited to see where this goes. I think OStim is compatible with Paradise Halls, right?

[hdregash]

So, I seem to pretty much suck at this button mashing as it will hit a plateau then I cannot progress and lose.  Even if I set the difficulty to -5, I lose.  Plus the camera goes third party and I cannot move it around to see what is going on, I just see the bar.  Level 73 character, from surprise or even when they are already beat down, does not seem to help.  Other than the standard 'Get Gud scrub' is there anything else I am missing about this?

 

 

[greenmango12]

I hope to confirm one thing untill actually try all thngs (though I had used Osex and plug in for LE so, I believe it should work as described)

 

What future I can expect as PC agressor?  or This mod mainly planed for PC victim or PC agressor?   Because I had seen, even though as frist stage, the mod offered for PC agressive player, but with many request it oftne add for PC victim and take time for the direction >> only PC victim part glowing up >> PC agressor only remain as basic. ^^;

 

Eg I may hope I can easy atack my follower as victim with O defeat, but hope it not break follower package. Then O defeat only force victim roll for NPC,  when I play but after finish all,, follower can return as my usual follower? (it usually gathered by EFF or other Follower manage mods I suppose).