COCO Body

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Hello!
 

Can someone tell me why this guy wants everyone to forcibly use his body (that didn't sound good lol) '' COCO body v5 '' style?

https://coco2048.blogspot.com/2021/08/cocoahri-hollywood-released-for-le-sse.html

Their outfits don't work without that body even if they are UUNP? 

Thanks.  

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Just now, Кhrysamere said:

 

I wouldn't say COCO wishes to force their particular body mod on everyone, in fact I would go as far as to say that it's a good thing, as more options are good for everyone. It is a bit unfortunate that, to my knowledge, the Ahri Hollywood Outfit mod hasn't been converted to CBBE 3BA and/or BHUNP yet, however it will happen eventually. All of Coco's other works have been converted, I'm sure this one will be too. Just give it time.

BHUNP isn't it the same as UUNP+SMP+HDT+PE only with more polygons on the boobs? 

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4 minutes ago, Кhrysamere said:

 

I wouldn't say COCO wishes to force their particular body mod on everyone, in fact I would go as far as to say that it's a good thing, as more options are good for everyone. It is a bit unfortunate that, to my knowledge, the Ahri Hollywood Outfit mod hasn't been converted to CBBE 3BA and/or BHUNP yet, however it will happen eventually. All of Coco's other works have been converted, I'm sure this one will be too. Just give it time.

Me yes. Because He is clearly forcing anyone who wants his mods to use his body type. 

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4 minutes ago, Кhrysamere said:

 

As the description of BHUNP puts it:

 

 

That's the thing, you're not really forced to use his mods. Body conversions will be made in time, just have to be patient.

So if you install the BHUNP body and the COCO body they appear in the list of UUNP bodies in BodySlide? Or do they replace any Bodyslide bodies you are using? I think that is my biggest doubt 

Yes, but if you really want to test his mods you must forcibly install his body because it is a requirement  

[Mez558]

6 minutes ago, Кhrysamere said:

Not really sure what you're asking. BHUNP, and the COCO body for that matter, install completely new bodyslide files so they won't replace anything in the CalienteTools Folder. Once you build the bodies in bodyslide, they will of course replace the vanilla body assets. BHUNP is UNP-based, meaning that it uses UNP textures, it also has many sliders to replicate old UNP-based body mods, as well as new sliders for more detailed body editing. As for COCO body, it has the option of being UNP-based, but has different sliders compared to UNP/BHUNP. If you're interested in BHUNP, try it out.

 

From what I've seen of COCO's outfits, they are not fully BS compatible. I admit that I haven't looked at much with their work, partly due to this and partly due to not having any interest in the outfits.
I think what the OP is getting at that you really need to be using COCO's preset or you need to add missing sliders yourself with OS, which is a pain for idiots like me if the outfit has cloth physics.

 

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4 minutes ago, Кhrysamere said:

 

Not really sure what you're asking. BHUNP, and the COCO body for that matter, install completely new bodyslide files so they won't replace anything in the CalienteTools Folder. Once you build the bodies in bodyslide, they will of course replace the vanilla body assets. BHUNP is UNP-based, meaning that it uses UNP textures, it also has many sliders to replicate old UNP-based body mods, as well as new sliders for more detailed body editing. As for COCO body, it has the option of being UNP-based, but has different sliders compared to UNP/BHUNP. If you're interested in BHUNP, try it out.

 

 

That's the thing, why would you need to test his mods? They're outfit mods, you know what you're getting based off of the pictures and such that are on display.

I mean if those bodies appear to be selected in the body list and you can easily switch between them, that's it

It is strange that the modders who made those bodies never say that, and then it is thought that they are going to be permanent non-interchangeable bodies 

 

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16 minutes ago, Кhrysamere said:

That's the thing, why would you need to test his mods? They're outfit mods, you know what you're getting based off of the pictures and such that are on display.

I mean play with it ... duh 

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10 minutes ago, Mez558 said:

 

From what I've seen of COCO's outfits, they are not fully BS compatible. I admit that I haven't looked at much with their work, partly due to this and partly due to not having any interest in the outfits.
I think what the OP is getting at that you really need to be using COCO's preset or you need to add missing sliders yourself with OS, which is a pain for idiots like me if the outfit has cloth physics.

 

Nope. What I want to know is if it is an interchangeable body, and if I don't like then I can return easily to my favorite body "UNPK"  ¿?

Edited August 30, 2021 by Sneaksmile

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12 minutes ago, Кhrysamere said:

 

Those are UUNP presets, and yes, they will work with BHUNP. BHUNP was made with backwards compatibility in mind, so all presets for UUNP will be compatible with it.

So they are presets and not bodies. '' COCO preset ''  by example.

Which is better or more convenient? COCO or BHUNP preset? 

Edited August 30, 2021 by Sneaksmile

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1 minute ago, Кhrysamere said:

 

I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding as to what Bodyslide presets are. They're not pre-built bodies per se, presets are basically just xml files that contain slider data, they change those sliders that you see in the body slide window. Like in that picture you posted above, they would modify "Breasts", "BreastsSmall", " etcetera

But if you change there from 'UNPK' to 'UNP-She Hulk', the body totally changes, that's what I mean. Then you just have to convert the clothes to that body type. Isn't it the same if you install the COCO body?

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4 minutes ago, Кhrysamere said:

They are bodies. BHUNP and COCO are bodies with new sliders, physics, and so on.

So they are permanent or something and do not they appear in that list of presets?  

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5 minutes ago, Кhrysamere said:

 

Yes. Of course it changes, that is the entire point. Presets modify the body's sliders in order to morph it. They don't switch to an entirely new body, they modify the sliders of the body they were made for. Look at the picture you posted above, see that "-Zeroed Sliders-" Preset? That is basically what UUNP looks like with all the sliders set to 0. If you switch to a different preset, such as UNPK, you will notice that the slider's values will change. Now if you went and set all those sliders to 0, it would look exactly the same as "-Zeroed Sliders-". Same thing for the other way around, if you took the "-Zeroed Sliders-" preset and changed all the sliders to match the values of UNPK, it would look exactly the same.

Yes, that's why I don't understand when you say that the COCO body is not a preset, if it is a body, will it then replace the UUNP bodies (presets) version or something like that? 

I think I'm more confused than before  lol  

Edited August 30, 2021 by Sneaksmile

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1 hour ago, Sneaksmile said:

Me yes. Because He is clearly forcing anyone who wants his mods to use his body type. 

Not really. If some one releases an armour for, say, UUNP it doesn't mean they don't want anyone to use CBBE etc.

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3 minutes ago, Кhrysamere said:

 

Look, just go install BHUNP. I can sit here and try to explain it to you all day, but you won't get it until you actually try it. Like I said before, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how Bodyslide works. You need more experience with it.

I have no lack of experience in that, before using BodySlide it is obvious that the way in which the bodies were used was to install them permanently ... duh ... I am asking you if that happens with the COCO body but you do not know how to explain it well. But, it's especially the guy's fault, and so many damn acronyms they (all modders) use now to describe just a damn body  

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SMP UUNP TLC REP PE BHP ... it seems they are singing a song ... gosh 

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7 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Not really. If some one releases an armour for, say, UUNP it doesn't mean they don't want anyone to use CBBE etc.

According to the guy (COCO) its body is UUNP ¿? I just want to know if it can be used as a 'UNPK' preset by example and the like, just that.   

[Alessia Wellington]

1 minute ago, Sneaksmile said:

I just want to know if it can be used as a 'UNPK' preset by example and the like, just that. 

 

Coco's body works like normal UUNP. You can use any UUNP preset with it.

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4 minutes ago, Alessia Wellington said:

 

Coco's body works like normal UUNP. You can use any UUNP preset with it.

I understand, it appears in the body list in BS and then I can select my UNPK preset, but the Unified UNP body will still be there in case I don't like the COCO body ... bingo! I just wanted to know that!  

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10 minutes ago, Alessia Wellington said:

 

Coco's body works like normal UUNP. You can use any UUNP preset with it.

Just one more thing, installing the requirements of that body (COCO) are they adapted to the Unified UNP body or what happens with that body? 

[Grey Cloud]

23 minutes ago, Sneaksmile said:

SMP UUNP TLC REP PE BHP ... it seems they are singing a song ... gosh 

SMP and PE are not bodies. I've never heard of TLC, REP or BHP.

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Just now, Grey Cloud said:

SMP and PE are not bodies. I've never heard of TLC, REP or BHP.

Lol ... that was just sarcasm  

[Alessia Wellington]

34 minutes ago, Sneaksmile said:

Just one more thing, installing the requirements of that body (COCO) are they adapted to the Unified UNP body or what happens with that body? 

 

Coco's body is its own thing entirely. It's only active when Coco armour or clothing is worn. It doesn't affect anything in the game.

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16 minutes ago, Alessia Wellington said:

 

Coco's body is its own thing entirely. It's only active when Coco armour or clothing is worn. It doesn't affect anything in the game.

I see! Thanks. 

And what about the armor and clothing? Do I have to adapt them all again to that body? Or do they still work fine? since I won't change the UNPK preset

Edited August 30, 2021 by Sneaksmile

[Alessia Wellington]

10 minutes ago, Sneaksmile said:

And what about the armor and clothing? Do I have to adapt them all again to that body?

 

Nope. You can use them as is.

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1 minute ago, Alessia Wellington said:

 

Nope. You can use them as is.

Cool!  Thanks  :3