aspirine2 Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 as the title says ...my game suddenly drops to 15 fps ..i 'm using super rig to run the game ..that error is so new to me ..and it's skyrim only !? many thanks in advance !?....so any ideas what is going on !? 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Grey Cloud Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Scrab said: run Loot Which will achieve what exactly? Â The OP's comments and a quick look at the plug-in list say to me that the OP has not put much time into finding out what is what with modding Skyrim. Â https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimLE:2.10.0 Â https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/ Â
Scrab Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Which will achieve what exactly? There are instances where a broken load order can cause some scripts to be triggered incorrectly, quests start falsly causing the game to go into a rampage of fixing those things natively which stresses out the game a lot and can cause issues like that The fact that it happens "seconds after loading" gives a lead that something in the startup is not starting up as it should, e.g. because of such an issue - A script getting stuck or w/e  Â
Grey Cloud Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Scrab said: There are instances where a broken load order can cause some scripts to be triggered incorrectly, quests start falsly causing the game to go into a rampage of fixing those things natively which stresses out the game a lot and can cause issues like that The fact that it happens "seconds after loading" gives a lead that something in the startup is not starting up as it should, e.g. because of such an issue. A script getting stuck or w/e   Bollocks. Even if your opening scenario was true, 'the game' cannot try to fix it. Low FPS at loading could just mean that there is still stuff loading. It could also mean that the game is not configured correctly so it is struggling for memory.  Â
Scrab Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Bollocks. Even if your opening scenario was true, 'the game' cannot try to fix it. Low FPS at loading could just mean that there is still stuff loading. It could also mean that the game is not configured correctly so it is struggling for memory. "Youre wrong, low FPS probably means that things arent starting up correctly"  duh. What exactly do you think "scripts getting stuck on startup" means? Note that the game has more scripts than just what is there in papyrus, esps are also just scripts with a lot of "Im bugged please treat me right or I will do bad things" inside them. The engine itself also runs a native polling which is not coupled to Papyrus and controls things like packages, dialogue lines. navmesh coordination, gametime, weather, you name it all. If an esp is loaded up incorrectly - e.g. because of a load order issue (or more plainly because the user has simply no clue what theyre doin) its very well possible that this internal polling gets stuck somewhere and eats up more memory than it should, causing things to load a lot longer and maybe never finishg loading while the game needs more and more memory to load up more and more of the gameworld Never forget that no matter what you do on a PC; somewhere in all this spaghetti code every program is just a "main" method being called when you open an executable, no matter how fancy the thing may look in xEdit or the CK
alex77r4 Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 4 hours ago, aspirine2 said: as the title says ...my game suddenly drops to 15 fps ..i 'm using super rig to run the game ..that error is so new to me ..and it's skyrim only !? many thanks in advance !?....so any ideas what is going on !?   Reveal hidden contents GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 hdtHighHeel.esm=1 SexLab.esm=1 PubicMeshColorRE.esm=1 EagleEyePerk.esm=1 ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1 EFFCore.esm=1 ImCh.esm=1 Heels Sound.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1 Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm=1 SkyrimSewers.ESM=1 Campfire.esm=1 CreatureFramework.esm=1 RSkyrimChildren.esm=1 SGHairPackBase.esm=1 RaceCompatibility.esm=1 BeeingFemale.esm=1 High Poly Head.esm=1 SexLabAroused.esm=1 Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1 Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1 Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm=1 SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp=1 HighResTexturePack01.esp=0 HighResTexturePack02.esp=0 HighResTexturePack03.esp=0 Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - 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Some ESP's have a very bad position and must be corrected. For example, SexLab.esm must be loaded after USLEEP (Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp) and, if you put it before, you go to have estrange problems in sexlab.  Normally, frame drops are caused by problem in physics or/and skeletons. I see XPSME in the last position, probably to try solve the problem, but as you have creature mods some creature skeletons must be overwrited with the skeleton version included in others mods, like More Nasty Critters and Animated Beast Cocks. But you have in your load order the old deprecated SexLabNudeCreatures that come with More Nasty Critters 9. That is outdated from more than 3 years ago. You must use More Nasty Critters 12 SLAL version. Follow the instructions in the web page to make the change.  Additionally, revise the correct installations of the physics mods (HDT or/and SMP) and disable any mod that add physics to the game until you locate the problem.    Â
alex77r4 Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Scrab said: The engine itself also runs a native polling which is not coupled to Papyrus and controls things like packages, dialogue lines. navmesh coordination, gametime, weather, you name it all. If you write that is because you know that, in each frame, the game only use some milliseconds executing papyrus while the rest of the milliseconds are used by the game engine processing AI, quest and spell conditions, sounds, graphics, ...  1 hour ago, Scrab said: If an esp is loaded up incorrectly - e.g. because of a load order issue (or more plainly because the user has simply no clue what theyre doin) its very well possible that this internal polling gets stuck somewhere and eats up more memory than it should, causing things to load a lot longer and maybe never finishg loading while the game needs more and more memory to load up more and more of the gameworld But that not have any sense.  The internal processing of the Game Engine never can be stuck in any way and never can consume memory in an infinite way. Every record of every ESP is loaded in RAM before we see the main menu. The necessary memory is allocated before start the game. Every cell group, determined by ugrisdtoload, is completely loaded, allocating memory, before show the first frame. Every object inside that cell group, terrain, grass, npc's, climatology, ... , is completely initialized before show the first frame.  If the game have everything loaded in RAM, as already initialized the objects, and have it ready to be procesed how can be stuck or how can consume more memory?  The only real problems caused by a bad load order are things not working in game because their ESP records has been overwited by others records, causing problems in quest start, spells that not fire, disappeared elements... But all that never can justify FPS problems.
Tlam99 Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 If you have physics installed smp-hdt, check this.
aspirine2 Posted August 22, 2021 Author Posted August 22, 2021 many thanks for the help Skyrim is running ultra smoothly again
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