Old SexLab Submit - (Merge into the current Submit thread?)

alpalia · May 23, 2013

I'm not sure any of that is relevent to my mod.

The only MCM functionality I currently have is a (nonfunctional) hotkey designation. (Still on the fence on how to make a hotkey work that doesn't wind up feeling like the "MLA Rape Spell" that I was never fond of, so I have yet to decide if I wanted to rework the mod to utilize a hotkey)

At any rate, I think you might have meant the over all SexLab Framework suggestion thread?

oh ! yeah, i have see, my mistake ^^ lol sorry, this from sexlab romance ^^

oops ! .... ^^

i have make error because this mod and sexlab romance is the only sex mod use dialog option ^^ (i prefer dialog option more than spell)

but.. about hotkey , i not see any functionnality needed to use hotkey....or,if you make something for use like vampire....seriously , why hotkey ?i didnt see anything need hotkey......position/move maybe , but this can be make with sexlab hotkey i suppose...........this is more dialog mod, i not see use hotkey for dialog... O_o..or maybe i not understand the point of view.^^

""At any rate, I think you might have meant the over all SexLab Framework suggestion thread?"" i not understand this ...sorry my bad english speak...

*dkatryl* · May 24, 2013

oh ! yeah, i have see, my mistake ^^ lol sorry, this from sexlab romance ^^

oops ! .... ^^

i have make error because this mod and sexlab romance is the only sex mod use dialog option ^^ (i prefer dialog option more than spell)

but.. about hotkey , i not see any functionnality needed to use hotkey....or,if you make something for use like vampire....seriously , why hotkey ?i didnt see anything need hotkey......position/move maybe , but this can be make with sexlab hotkey i suppose...........this is more dialog mod, i not see use hotkey for dialog... O_o..or maybe i not understand the point of view.^^

""At any rate, I think you might have meant the over all SexLab Framework suggestion thread?"" i not understand this ...sorry my bad english speak...

If a hotkey was implemented, it would be for the sole purpose of stopping combat so that you can even initiate dialog.

(My current method works, but I'm not terribly fond of it because it involves ~20 different vanilla entries with ~20 different papyrus fragments, 1 for each. It's cumbersome and prone to mod conflicts if anything else touches those same files. But, it at least seems to work and seems relatively stable.)

Nothing else in the mod would change. Everything from that point on would be via dialog.

Kaiden69 · May 25, 2013

Can I make a suggestion to turn off the IsPlayableRace flag? This seems to conflict with Dawnguard vampires, preventing the dialogue option from appearing.

medic975 · May 25, 2013

Dkatryl,

I think there may be some conflict between your mod and either dual sheath redux and or the Ningeim race, possibly some others. I suspect it could possibly be the Ningheim mod causing the problem, as I had problems with it and ECE, but I'm not positive. I know that if I install your mod it works as intended. However, the game no longer recognized the dual sheath redux patch and my characters face disappears leaving his hair, eyeballs, and teeth floating above his shoulders and I'm switched to the vanilla nord race. It also acts like I just started the game over. Courier appears telling me to meet the Jarl of white run, all my skills reset, all the mcm settings of my mod reset to default, followers are dismissed, and a good chunk of my inventory disappears. I can reset my face using the alternative racemenu shout. But if I log out at all or load a game it does all the above again.

I remove your mod from my load order and it's all just fine again. Everything is as it should be.

Here's my load order in case you'd need it. I'd love to keep your mod in the mix, because I do enjoy it. But can't as my mod list stands.

Active Mod Files:

00 Skyrim.esm
01 Update.esm
02 Dawnguard.esm
03 HearthFires.esm
04 Dragonborn.esm
05 ApachiiHair.esm
06 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
07 AzarHair.esm
08 RaceCompatibility.esm
09 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
0A AOM.esm
0B Kyia.esm
0C Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
0D SPIKE.esm
0E UndergroundBathhouse.esm
0F Viin.esm
10 XFLMain.esm
11 SexLab.esm [Version 4]
12 HighResTexturePack01.esp
13 HighResTexturePack02.esp
14 HighResTexturePack03.esp
15 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 1.3.2c]
16 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
17 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 1.2.2]
18 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 1.1.0]
19 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
1A Better Dynamic Snow.esp
1B RevampedExteriorFog.esp
1C BWS.esp
1D Clanking Armor.esp
1E Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
1F randomthunder.esp
20 Thundering Shouts.esp
21 mintylightningmod.esp
22 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp
23 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowerRes_HighSpawn.esp
24 AOM.esp
25 Ars Metallica.esp [Version 1.2.0]
26 Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp [Version 1.2.0]
27 Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp [Version 1.2.0]
28 Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp [Version 1.2.0]
29 BirdsHFclean.esp
2A Birdsofskyrim.esp
2B BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
2C Bring Out Your Dead.esp [Version 1.1.7]
2D Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
2E Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp
2F Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp
30 Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp
31 ClamsDropPearls.esp
32 dbmisc.esp
33 Disease Descriptions.esp
34 DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp
35 DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp
36 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
37 DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
38 fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp [Version 1.0]
39 ktxcompleteskyforge.esp
3A Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - 2x Brighter.esp
3B Legionettes.esp
3C LoversComfort.esp
3D manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
3E MVABasic.esp
3F MVAIvarstead.esp
40 MVARorikstead.esp
41 Moss Rocks.esp
42 ORM-Arvak.esp
43 PilgrimsDelight.esp
44 Point The Way.esp [Version 1.0.1a]
45 Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
46 sextoys-calyps-2.esp
47 ShootingStars.esp
48 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
49 SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp [Version 1.1]
4A SMDropLitTorch.esp
4B Convenient Horses.esp
4C Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
4D Footprints.esp
4E Footprints - Ash.esp
4F RaceMenu.esp
50 WetandCold.esp
51 SkyUI.esp
52 Armored Bikini - UNPB BBP.esp
53 AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp
54 AeriAssassin.esp
55 Blade and Soul Negligee.esp
56 LeatherThiefArmor.esp
57 Lia de Russo Outfit.esp
58 SUNMagicArmor.esp
59 SwordDancer.esp
5A TeraHFR20.esp
5B wjunlady.esp
5C Aradia Gold Lady.esp
5D Aradia Lace Dress.esp
5E zzMaidOutfits.esp
5F TavernClothes-MTM.esp
60 BBP_Dragon_Princess.esp
61 BlackSacramentArmor.esp
62 Cloaks.esp
63 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
64 1nivWICCloaks.esp [Version 2.3]
65 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp [Version 2.3]
66 DCSorceress.esp
67 Elemental Staves.esp
68 ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
69 Field Mage Craftable Armor.esp
6A Field Mage Outfit.esp
6B GDAttire.esp
6C Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp
6D hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
6E Huntress.esp
6F imp_helm.esp
70 imp_helm_imp.esp
71 imp_helm_dawn.esp
72 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
73 LadyKdCirclets.esp
74 KURESE Gloria conversion.esp
75 LayerBikini.esp
76 FullMetalBikini.esp
77 LB Lady Keaira.esp
78 MashupUNP.esp
79 Nouserhere Ears.esp
7A Osare Underwear.esp
7B rosarmor.esp
7C Skull Armor.esp
7D Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
7E Tera Val Tirkai - UNPB BBP.esp
7F VampireLeatherArmorSet.esp
80 ViceroyInquisitor.esp
81 warchiefarmor.esp
82 zzlovelyfeather.esp
83 CraftableODPM.esp
84 Gildergreen Regrown.esp [Version 1.2.5]
85 My Home Is Your Home.esp
86 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 1.2.2]
87 When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 1.0.2]
88 SkyrimChimneysRW.esp
89 SpouseStoreMod.esp
8A The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.4]
8B ub_apachii_hair.esp
8C ub_cell_darkarea.esp
8D ub_tapestry.esp
8E SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp
8F Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
90 Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
91 Babette.esp
92 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
93 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
94 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp
95 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Weightless).esp
96 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp
97 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Weightless).esp
98 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp
99 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp
9A Better Skill and Quest Books Names - BS.esp
9B BetterQuestObjectives-BSaQBPatch.esp
9C BlockSparkles.esp
9D Distant DetailHF.esp
9E DiversePriests.esp
9F dynamic fires.esp
A0 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
A1 HeavyMetal.esp
A2 Immersive Weapons.esp
A3 masser Size x0.5.esp
A4 More Salt Please.esp
A5 More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp
A6 dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp
A7 NonEssentialChildren.esp
A8 BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp
A9 orc-female-idle-fix.esp
AA secunda Size x0.5.esp
AB dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
AC dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
AD TheChoiceIsYours.esp
AE TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
AF BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp
B0 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
B1 unreadbooksglow.esp [Version 2.1.0]
B2 Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
B3 xvisionchildren.esp
B4 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
B5 Unique Region Names.esp
B6 Unique Region Names - Dragonborn.esp
B7 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
B8 The Ningheim.esp
B9 Better Vampires ML.esp
BA HearthfireMultiKid.esp
BB Predator Vision.esp
BC zzLSARAddon.esp
BD WerewolfMastery.esp
BE WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6.esp
BF WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.esp
C0 BFSEffects.esp
C1 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
C2 DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
C3 FNISspells.esp
C4 ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
C5 SexLab Romance.esp
C6 SexLabMatchMaker.esp
C7 SexAddict.esp
C8 Realistic crime report radius.esp
C9 Enhanced Soul Trap.esp
CA Soul Gems Differ - NW - E.esp
CB dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
CC Beards.esp
CD Brows.esp
CE TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 8]
CF 3DNPC.esp
D0 XFLDialogue.esp
D1 XFLPlugins.esp
D2 XFLHorses.esp
D3 XFLMindControl.esp
D4 Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
D5 Uthgerd Kriegswolfe.esp
D6 Viin.esp
D7 Saadia.esp
D8 SMSkyrim.esp [Version 2.4]
D9 Sylgja.esp
DA Kyia.esp
DB FollowerWander2.esp
DC CerwidenCompanion.esp
DD EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
DE EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
DF FollowerWander2Serana.esp
E0 gina.esp
E1 Aeri.esp
E2 Aranya.esp
E3 aelafacelift-origpaint.esp
E4 mjollfacelift-v4-1-Blonde.esp
E5 TTS - Camilla Valerius.esp
E6 Ysolda.esp
E7 Arlana the Axe Maiden.esp
E8 Tauriel.esp
E9 Khaliza of Gilane.esp
EA Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.3a]
EB BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
EC ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
ED DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp
EE Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
EF DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
F0 WATER.esp
F1 WATER Plants.esp
F2 WATER DB Waves.esp
F3 barenziahquestmarkers.esp
F4 jaxonzsksetester.esp
F5 General Patch.esp
F6 ASG-AWE Patch.esp
F7 ASW-GDO Patch.esp
F8 AS-GDO Patch.esp
F9 ICS-EBT Patch.esp
FA TCIY-BOYD Patch.esp
FB WM-BOYD Patch.esp
FC Mergism.esp
FD Bashed Patch, 0.esp
FE Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

Thanks for your hard work on this too.

*dkatryl* · May 25, 2013

Can I make a suggestion to turn off the IsPlayableRace flag? This seems to conflict with Dawnguard vampires, preventing the dialogue option from appearing.

I was afraid of that. I couldn't remember if the IsPlayableRace flag was any race that had the "playable" flag checked, or if only included the default vanilla Skyrim races and not ones added through mods, including official ones like Dawnguard.

Because apparently without the flag, other random things can allow the dialog prompts, as was reported earlier in the thread. I suppose I could try IsActor == 1 instead?

[Edit] Okay, I see the playable 'races' have the flag "ActorTypeNPC", so I imagine I can do a check for that.

[Edit2] HasKeyword 'ActorTypeNPC' == 1 is the winner.

*dkatryl* · May 25, 2013

Dkatryl,

I think there may be some conflict between your mod and either dual sheath redux and or the Ningeim race, possibly some others. I suspect it could possibly be the Ningheim mod causing the problem, as I had problems with it and ECE, but I'm not positive. I know that if I install your mod it works as intended. However, the game no longer recognized the dual sheath redux patch and my characters face disappears leaving his hair, eyeballs, and teeth floating above his shoulders and I'm switched to the vanilla nord race. It also acts like I just started the game over. Courier appears telling me to meet the Jarl of white run, all my skills reset, all the mcm settings of my mod reset to default, followers are dismissed, and a good chunk of my inventory disappears. I can reset my face using the alternative racemenu shout. But if I log out at all or load a game it does all the above again.

I remove your mod from my load order and it's all just fine again. Everything is as it should be.

Here's my load order in case you'd need it. I'd love to keep your mod in the mix, because I do enjoy it. But can't as my mod list stands.

Thanks for your hard work on this too.

Hrm, I don't know how my mod could affect a race mode, because I don't touch any of the vanilla Skyrim race files nor do I add anything new race related.

As to the dual sheath mod, I don't know what that mod even does to even begin to guess how mine could conflict. I know I edit ~20 dialog files, all of which are contained within DialogGeneric/Combat/ Flee or BleedOut (which is why I am looking into a hotkey alternative as a mechanic to drop combat to begin dialog), and also WIKill05, setting the duration of the 'mourning' period from 240sec to 30sec.

Beyond that, everything else should pretty much be brand new custom files.

(ps) Jeebus, that's a lot of mods. I only run with ~20-ish mods total!

medic975 · May 25, 2013

Mostly armor and texture change mods. I admit I have a problem, but I got them to all work.

I wouldn't know what would have done it either. But the only thing I saw was when I added and removed yours. I truly do think it might be the Ningheim race itself.

There was someone on the Sexlab forum who describes issues similar but not exactly like mine. So no idea.

Thanks for the response. I'll be mucking around disabling mods and testing and might find out what it is.

Dual sheath looks at the armor and clothing in the game and makes a patch so that you can have the crossed swords, daggers, shields, and staves on your back.

I thought maybe it interfered with stripping somehow? But I'm no where near knowledgeable about the mod creation process to know, so these are just stabs in the dark.

*dkatryl* · May 25, 2013

Well, from that description of the dual sheath, nothing I have made should conflict with that, because I touch nothing regarding items, item slots, characters, etc.

And when it comes time to actually do the stripping and make with the sexin's... I just call a built in SexLab Framework function, so if that was the culprit, ANY SexLab mod would have that effect.

I hear what you're saying about it seeming to happen only when my mod is active, but I am having a hard time seeing how the small handful of things I affect could be the culprit on this one.

*D_ManXX2* · May 25, 2013

What version of dual sheath are you using ?? Also make sure SkyProc Patchers/ is correctly applying everything.after that it should function correctly. This mod is not making anything that could disrupt dual-sheath itself.

I had allot of problems getting dual sheath to work right with SUM combined with ASIS.

*dkatryl* · May 26, 2013

26MAY13, ~0100 CST:
Corrected the check I was making for viable races to HasKeyword 'ActorTypeNPC' == 1, so that should allow all fitting races, custom and default, to be valid for the check now.

I spent the past several nights trying to get the "combat breaking allow dialog to be intitiated" to be done in several manners that didn't involve changing the default Skyrim 'Flee' and 'Bleedout' dialogs, but I just wasn't able to make it work. So for now I decided to just let it remain as is so that I could spend more time actually playing the game instead of losing more time struggling with futility. As such, there were no really compelling MCM features requires, so I removed those.

Repackaged the mod using a .BSA, which means that all of the scripts & sources from previous versions can be deleted which means now you only have to worry about a total of 2 files to update: The ESP and the BSA. (All of the scripts and sources begin with "_SLSubmit" if you want to delete them manually. I would recommend this.)

Dark Thoughts · May 26, 2013

I changed the mod to utilize a 'Blocking' dialog, so if you meet the parameters of the mod (<=20%), then my mod should take over and disallow the ability to see any other dialog options. Hopefully, this will make it work better with SexLab Romance and such by not having both dialog options available when it is obvious you aren't trying to initiate romance

I think this breaks the Paradise Halls - Skyrim Slavery mod.

*dkatryl* · May 26, 2013

I think this breaks the Paradise Halls - Skyrim Slavery mod.

That isn't entirely surprising after glancing at the write up for that mod, since it relies on the NPC being <= ~20% health and all, just like mine.

But, if people don't mind still seeing potentially "odd" dialog options still popping up after you just beat someone down in order to have your way with them, then for those people:

26MAY13, ~1600 CST:
Made a 'Non-Blocking' dialog version for any that use other mods that could possible conflict with dialog when the NPC in question is <= 20% health. Since I am primarily making this mod for myself and am just sharing with any interested, and I don't use any of those mods that would conflict, I will only do further development on the 'Blocking' style dialog. Due to how 'blocking' dialog tends to require an extra tier of dialog, it isn't as simple as just checking the box for Blocking vs Non-Blocking, and each time you change between the two types it requires changing the entire structure of the dialog trees. Which, quite frankly, is a pain in the ass that I won't be repeating.

Dark Thoughts · May 27, 2013

The description of PH is a bit outdated.

If you have an NPC down to a certain health and hit him / her with the whip it will be automatically "replaced", kinda hard to describe so I suggest you have to test it for yourself.

*dkatryl* · May 27, 2013

The description of PH is a bit outdated.

If you have an NPC down to a certain health and hit him / her with the whip it will be automatically "replaced", kinda hard to describe so I suggest you have to test it for yourself.

I am not really inclined to try to chase down every possible mod out there that might not play well with this and try to customize this to fit with everything, especially on mods I have no intention of using personally. Removing the Blocking and making the dialogs Topic only completely removes the chance that this will conflict with others. (Unless another mod utilizes Blocking and a similar condition, in which case, we've gone full circle :dodgy: )

That being said, I believe I stated on the first page that I give full permission if other people want to take the base mod and tailor make it to suit X, Y, & Z mods out there, or just incorporate it or parts of it into a larger mod package. Just give proper credit, and then go crazy with it.

jackbite69 · May 27, 2013

I'm a big fan of this mod & thanks for the update! Glad you decided to share it

medic975 · May 27, 2013

What version of dual sheath are you using ?? Also make sure SkyProc Patchers/ is correctly applying everything.after that it should function correctly. This mod is not making anything that could disrupt dual-sheath itself.

I had allot of problems getting dual sheath to work right with SUM combined with ASIS.

1.6b although I don't think I'm using SkyProcPatchers. I'll do some more research on it, and post elsewhere, as not to derail this thread as I feel like you guys are right about the conflict not being in here unless it's some weird secondary mod issue.

ChipyChops · May 28, 2013

Thanks for the mod dkatryl, I've been enjoying it very much

*dkatryl* · June 1, 2013

31MAY13, ~2140 CST:
Added an option to rob the NPC if you talk to them again after successfully raping them. I was playing Skyrim myself the last few days, using Spaceman's Romance mod on the nice city folk, and my mod on the jerk-ass bandits/necros/etc that tried to attack and rob me. I realized that on the latter groups, after I had my way with them, I didn't necessarily want to kill them, yet I still wanted to loot them! So, I added this feature to the mod that allows you to take anything from them you want after you've had your way with them at least once. I didn't figure this would be game breaking, since in Vanilla Skyrim I would have just killed and looted their body anyway.

My _SLSubmitBleedOut## and _SLSubmitFlee## scripts were massively redundant, but thought they were necessary, due to the CK not allowing you to reuse scripts in fragments. Then I realized I could effectively juggle the scripts with some renaming, so I trimmed out about ~20 redundant scripts. Everything has been packed in a .BSA for the last few updates, so it makes little different to installing/uninstalling, however if you are wondering why the file size decreased with this update, that is why.

*dkatryl* · June 1, 2013

Hrm, just realized that I overlooked taking the NPC's gold and giving it to the player. Trying to add that part now as well.

*dkatryl* · June 1, 2013

31MAY13, ~2307 CST:
Overlooked having the NPC hand over their gold in earlier update. NPC now automatically gives you all of their gold when the inventory screen opens.

*dkatryl* · June 1, 2013

01JUN13, ~0017 CST:
The chief reason I changed the mod to utilize 'Blocking' dialogs was to avoid having the other SexLab mod I use, Spaceman's Romance, from showing up when dealing with bandits/necros/etc. However, that is a rather heavy handed approach to the problem, and one that is prone to breaking other mods, and even just some default game sections. So, I reverted the mod back to being non-Blocking, Top Level only, and simply edited my copy of SLRomance to do a Health% > 20% check so it will use that mod on the nice town folk, and my mod on the hostile NPC's out in the world. The Blocking version was removed.

Skarab · June 1, 2013

Loving the new dialogue! Only problem I have is that afterwards I cannot use my weapons even though I can see them in third person view, anyone know the console command to get them working again?

*dkatryl* · June 1, 2013

I just ran it again on some poor unsuspecting NPC, and I had no problem drawing my weapon and using it after the first rape, subsequent rapes, and robbing them. Considering that the actual "sex" part just uses the SexLab Framework, and my mod is really just the 'window dressing' that sets the stage to start the sex animations, I don't believe my mod in particular would be the culprit.

I will say that I have had the random wonky thing happen via the Framework, like appearing a thousand feet in the air after the sex when I should have rag-dolled and falling to my death, and one time I had my weapon get stuck in limbo state when I tried to sheath it too late to avoid the camera lock up or something (wasn't able to replicate it, so I wasn't too concerned, that's what quicksave/load is for ) so I suspect it may have been something like that.

Unless you are saying your weapon gets stuck EVERYtime no matter what, in which case I would have to ask if it got stuck when you ran other SexLab based mods, like Romance or Matchmaker.

As to the question, sorry, I don't know of a console command that would help there.

ChipyChops · June 2, 2013

Try switch to a bow then back again.

Skarab · June 2, 2013

It's working fine now, I think it may have been down to tfc..

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