Ideology and Potential (Discussion)

[Screws]

Who else is excited at the ideology update and the potential it represents in the lewd modding scene? It looks like it would open the door for many different 'rituals' and such to be present and created. The ideology framework could basically mold a society to accept things as societal norms or taboos, its such a cool looking system, but I want to know what other people think of what we have seen so far in screenshots and what things you'd like to potentially see come out of it.

Currently I see that there seems to be a base setup to where you could make harems, or just have ritualistic orgies and such already in place. (See Physical Love, Spouses, in some of the screenshots) They even talk about 'love clusters' which makes it definitely seem like polygamy is becoming a part of vanilla Rimworld which has me very interested indeed.

[SluttySnowcraft]

While I'm fairly certain a full-blown sex cult will require some modding, there's a lot of potential in the base-DLC already for nudist colonies and polygamous pawns. I'm fairly sure RJW's prostitution could be fit into a precept of some kind too - and gender roles being added through one has some potential for RimWorld-appropriate horror and entertainment.

Really, though, we'll just have to wait and see.

[Screws]

Fair enough, but I can definitely see sex-based religions forming.

[Whozzat]

Reviving this thread to have a handy place to submit sexy ideology ideas, instead of scattering them across multiple threads and potentially getting in the way of troubleshooting.

 

So as of right now, we have C0ffee's RJW Addons that among other things adds a lactation/hucow meme, and motd1233's RJW Sexperience mod that on top of tracking pawns' sex history and giving them a Sex skill stat, adds a ton of memes and precepts regarding rape, incest, bestiality, necrophilia, and so on.  Which means I can cross off a lot of stuff from a post I made in the main RJW thread while I was waiting for mods to update so I could play Ideology.

 

On 7/21/2021 at 12:20 AM, Whozzat said:

Since my ability to actually play the expansion is hampered by the number of mods that haven't updated to 1.3, I've had time to brainstorm about giving the Ideology system the RJW treatment.  By which I mean, someone else is free to follow up on these ideas, since I have no idea how to mod Rimworld and don't have any interest in learning.

 

Precepts

"Physical Love," "Female/Male Clothing," and "Women's/Men's Spouses" are already baked-in categories, so it shouldn't be hard to set up a patriarchy/matriarchy where the oppressed sex has to run around naked or in fetish gear.  As for suggested new Precepts:

 

Birth Control - Whether your colony tolerates condoms and IUDs.  Only relevant if you have pregnancy enabled, obviously.

 

Incest - An "exalted/allowed/disgusted/despised" spectrum should be easy enough to set up, but I'm curious whether it'd be possible to add more nuance to it with "Lateral Incest" (between siblings) vs "Vertical Incest" (parent-child) categories, or even more specific restrictions ("mother-son is totally hot, father-daughter crosses the line," "our colony ruler can only legally marry their sibling like the pharaohs of old").

 

Sexual Slavery - How acceptable it is for pawns to force themselves on prisoners or slaves.  Maybe if it was allowed or even exalted, it would provide a bigger mood buff than it does currently?  If I remember correctly, it's something like a paltry +2, which is less than the buff from having a cup of tea from one of the cooking mods.

 

Bestiality - Like a hypothetical "Incest" category, I'm curious whether the "exalted-despised" spectrum could be expanded with settings for specific genders or even creature types. 

 

Exhibitionism - How scandalized a pawn will be if they catch others in the act.  If it's set to "allowed" it ought to behave as it does currently, i.e. pawns don't really notice other pawns fucking.  If it's "exalted," pawns who decide to have a public quickie might end up impressing the rest of the colony with their sexual prowess.  Oh, but you'd probably have to disable that RJW option that confines lovin' to beds to get the most out of that hypothetical "exalted" exhibitionism.  Unless you set up a "performance" bed in the main hall...

 

Endowment - Make a pawn's penis and/or breast size actually count for something!  If "exalted," well-hung or busty pawns will enjoy greater social status, in the form of opinion modifiers with their fellow colonists.  Or set this to "despised" for a colony that believes flat is justice and it's how you use it that counts.  It'd be downright hilarious if there was some way to set that the pawn with the biggest dick/tits was automatically the leader.  But how to decide in case of ties..?

 

Memes

These are the big ones that will set the tone for the whole sexy colony, and affect the settings of the aforementioned hypothetical Precepts.  So, something like a "Hucow Farm" Meme would require slavery of the desired gender, presumably enforced nudity, and depending how the hucows were classified, settings for sexual slavery.  Or if your kink was egg implantation/laying, your colony would have to be cool with bug-on-human female interactions and opposed to birth control.

 

I brought up something like a "ruling caste can freely use servant caste" idea earlier, but while Ideology adds dedicated Roles to a colony, there's not quite a caste system, to my knowledge, so there's no easy way to set that up.  The closest you could come would be a "Droit du Seigneur" Meme where the colony's official ruler has the right to celebrate a couple's marriage by breaking in the bride (or more rarely, groom).  Or go further with a "Harem Lord" Meme where the lucky ruler is allowed to bang anyone they feel like, at any time, regardless of their partner's previous relationships.  Sort of like a "legal" version of RJW's Hero Mode, I guess.

 

And maybe... I dunno, orientation play?  A colony where bisexuality is encouraged, and pawns experiment beyond their listed sexual preferences?  Or maybe a single-gender colony where only same-sex relationships are allowed, and prisoners and new recruits are forced to submit?  Set up three rival factions with the "Gay Primacy," "Lesbian Superiority," and "We're Mostly Straight, Actually" memes and see who prevails.

 

Roles:

Not a whole lot to work with here, since by default there's only a Leader, Priest, and then a bunch of skill Specialists.  So the best I can think of is a dedicated Consort/Courtesan tasked with going around and making sure everyone's sexually satisfied.  Alternatively, a dedicated Bitch/Cumdump that is obligated to bend over and take it whenever someone's horny.  Or, if there's some way to track sexual proficiency and skill, a colony could have an exalted Fellatrix or Masturbatrix to greet guests.

 

Rituals:

This would be a great place for that Orgy mod.  Other ideas:

 

Sexual Initiation - One version of this could be that whenever a pawn comes of age, they get to have a tumble with the colony Consort/Courtesan in front of an audience to celebrate their entry into adulthood.  Alternatively, an adult who joins the colony gets to become intimately acquainted with their new tribe.

 

Wedding and Consummation - A newlywed couple consummates their marriage in front of the rest of the colony as part of the climax of the wedding ceremony.

 

Test of Stamina - Two colonists compete to see how many sex acts they can perform before dropping from exhaustion, either with a series of partners, or maybe they're competing more directly.  Though for this to be interesting, it'd have to be more than "whoever starts with the highest Rest rating wins."  So either the winner is randomized, or other stats would have to come into play.

 

Test of Skill - Similar to the above, but focusing more on quality than quantity.  Again, this would either be randomized or a factor of a pawn's sexual experience and other traits.

 

Cum Bath - As a low-tech alternative to those new body-shaping or age-reversing machines, a female colonist becomes the centerpiece of a bukkake in hopes that a good glazing will make her breasts bigger or make her younger.  Who knows, it might just work?

 

Buildings:

I dunno, a Monument of Virility/Fertility that serves as the centerpiece of the dedicated Orgy Room?  Or maybe it could be a meditation focus for pawns that only gained psyfocus from sexual activity? 

 

Alternatively, fucking machines and bondage furniture.

 

Relics:

This could be hilarious when combined with mods that add sex toys and the like.  Go on a quest to recover the legendary Thundercock of Chad or the sacred Plasteel Extra-Large Buttplug.

 

 

Right, that's enough of that.  Back to trying to figure out why I can't right-click things to get my colonists to equip or haul them.

 

Now, as Ears has pointed out elsewhere, the Vanilla Expanded project has just released a whole heap of new Ideology content (including a non-explicit orgy event, those madlads).  I haven't had much time to explore it, but when I saw the "Eldritch" ideoligion structure, I had to ask: "Where is the tentacle sex mod?"  And it ought to be easy to adapt the "Party Host" role from the "Party Life" meme so they can start a non-ritual orgy every few days.  The "Violent Conversion" meme makes me wonder about an "Erotic Conversion" meme where a sexy colony fucks a prisoner into adopting their ideoligion, while the "God-Emperor" and "Cult of Personality" and "Aristocratic" memes would all lend themselves well to a privileged one/few having the right to bang anyone in the colony they desire.  Finally, it'd be hilarious to have a variant of the "Blood Court" meme where whoever has the highest Sex skill (from the Sexperience mod) gets to be the leader.

 

[Ears]

The trouble is, the creators of perverted mods are too perverts. We will receive feeding on sperm and growing tentacles, but we will not get a simple and understandable to every schoolchild, an imperial harem with elfgirls slaves.

[Whozzat]

Well, I can confirm that the Vanilla Ideology Expanded orgy event does not play well with RimJobWorld.  When triggered, all the pawns strip down and dance near each other while hearts pop out and smooth jazz plays, there's no sex animation or sounds.  As far as RJW is concerned, I don't think the pawns count as fucking.  A shame, since the notion of pawns suspending their normal sexual preferences for a few hours is interesting.

 

And come to think of it, there's some other Vanilla Expanded mod that adds "flirting frenzy" states where pawns aspire to get some lovin', but RJW sex never fulfills it so they always end up sad.  Another incompatibility.

 

On 10/27/2021 at 2:45 PM, Ears said:

The trouble is, the creators of perverted mods are too perverts. We will receive feeding on sperm and growing tentacles, but we will not get a simple and understandable to every schoolchild, an imperial harem with elfgirls slaves.

 

Hmm, yeah, we can't assign slaves to specific pawns yet, can we?  I guess the best you could do would be to set up the ideoligion to have unlimited spouses for men, then use dev mode to force marriage and make a harem that way.

 

 

[Kashked]

9 hours ago, Whozzat said:

 

 

And come to think of it, there's some other Vanilla Expanded mod that adds "flirting frenzy" states where pawns aspire to get some lovin', but RJW sex never fulfills it so they always end up sad.  Another incompatibility.

 

 

 

This is generally true for any mods that call for the vanilla "Lovin'" interaction. For example if you use Corruption you wont gain any favour with Slaanesh from RJW interactions, only vanilla ones. It would be great if RJW could "intercept" any modded calls for Lovin', but alas.

[S32S32S5]

There's not a lot of mods that add roles. The unmodded roles are just too general, like production specialists covering many different types of crafts.

 

Relations being forms as the result of a ritual would be something I like to see, ether as a acknowledge of events or those magical results that break immersion.

[Encon4]

I started playing the game, and i found that i would really like the idea to add the gender slavery when you get the female submission(or male submission), means every female(or male) in the colony automatically stays in slave mode as long it follows the colony ideology, and would never rebel because of ideology, they agree that their place is below the cattle, and they get positive mood for being a slave.

the submission part of the sexperience is to allow rape with reduced penalty but i wish it added much more than that.

 

just an idea.