TrollAutokill Posted July 17, 2023 Author Posted July 17, 2023 38 minutes ago, Wowaiki said: Could you please tell me what mod i need to install to hear their dialogues? I installed every required mod on the list but it still not working. Thank you. Love your mod ❤️ https://mega.nz/folder/lCVhHBjT#Pj7ewGUe9pGJg2uNp3EWdw
TrollAutokill Posted July 17, 2023 Author Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Good Provider said: Troll slaves don't appear in the slave list No way to get the troll slave back if if gets lost. Troll slaves with Pet Collar does have the slaves getting busy with the troll on their. The troll was stuck in a hall. I was able to sack it to get it out of the hall, but how do I get it back out of the sack? To get a slave out of the sack use the hotkey (you need to define it in the mcm) or the wheel menu on the sack. Edited July 17, 2023 by TrollAutokill
TrollAutokill Posted July 17, 2023 Author Posted July 17, 2023 23 hours ago, RocketBun said: Any chance of Amputator Framework integration? Feels like it would fit here. Say, threaten a slave with amputation to gain compliance, or seriously traumatize them by doing it unprompted. Could even slot it in as a possible kink for the truly weird slaves. Lots of cool ways it could work with DoM slave's brains. 'Not my cup of tea, so it will have to be an addon.
RocketBun Posted July 17, 2023 Posted July 17, 2023 4 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: 'Not my cup of tea, so it will have to be an addon. Totally understandable, yeah.
Nindran Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 Is there way to get them to sleep on bed not sit on fresh caught slave have their tongue sticking out but it just bug
whooptyscoop Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 I used the JSON file in the DOM plugin to choose slaves attributes, and while it gets the personality values perfectly, it won't seem to read the kinks I give it. The Restore Persona spell does nothing, and when I reclone the slave, they somehow spawn in with random personality values but the exact same unwanted kinks lmao. Interestingly, the kinks are the same ones that belonged to a slave that recently died. If it helps, the slave is a modded npc, but it's one of those regular standalone ones. Any ideas on how to get it to read both personality and kinks, cause I'm at a loss.
TrollAutokill Posted July 18, 2023 Author Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, whooptyscoop said: I used the JSON file in the DOM plugin to choose slaves attributes, and while it gets the personality values perfectly, it won't seem to read the kinks I give it. The Restore Persona spell does nothing, and when I reclone the slave, they somehow spawn in with random personality values but the exact same unwanted kinks lmao. Interestingly, the kinks are the same ones that belonged to a slave that recently died. If it helps, the slave is a modded npc, but it's one of those regular standalone ones. Any ideas on how to get it to read both personality and kinks, cause I'm at a loss. The restore persona spell only reads the personality from the json file. Kinks and virginity are read only once, at capture. To edit the kinks you have to release the slave from DoM (send them to PAHE) then from the console: remove all known kink factions and edit the hidden kink faction ranks to your liking. The rank is the id of the kink from 1 to 127, they are listed in DOM_Util.psc Edited July 18, 2023 by TrollAutokill
AWHA2 Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 On 7/16/2023 at 5:10 PM, c2o0o0l8 said: Recently after updating the mod to the new version, capturing of slave takes forever (the message "Slave has just been captured" not showing up). The slave just laying on the ground and I could not talk to her. I don't remember from which version it breaks, but I know 4.8.1 works and 4.8.4 breaks. I tried re-install 4.8.1 and it works again. Exactly the same problem here. It seem that the script is re-running over and over. I noticed a significant increase in my script load (and a huge decrease in FPS) when I capture new slaves. I'm using the latest version 4.9
Thaladrius Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 On 7/4/2023 at 4:32 AM, TrollAutokill said: If you don't want naked bandits you need to keep outfits. If you want naked (or to assign clothes to) slaves you need to remove outfits. There is no good solution to this problem. Okay, so I'm really trying to wrap my head around this one and hope someone can help. Having enslaved a few enemies, and subsequently noticing the same actor showing up naked when the game later spawns them, I decided to focus on enslaving some unique actors to avoid having Skyrim populated by a bunch of bandits running around naked. However, having AYGAS installed, I want to work on my progress as a slave trader so naturally I want to go back to enslaving bandits. So I decided to do some testing in the safety of my slave dungeon. First, I enabled the PAHE option to "Disable automatic Outfit". I then spawned in an actor via the console and enslaved them with PAHE. I tied up the slave and spawned in another copy of the same base actor and they spawned in fully clothed. Great. Got rid of the second one and using the PAHE dialogue on the first, ordered them to "Strip and set your outfit", which gives you the option "I want better control over what you wear (and I don't care what your actorbase might wear later)". Having done this, I spawn another copy of the same actor, and this time they're naked. Oops. Okay, so I start over, this time avoiding the PAHE dialogue mentioned above, and am able to spawn in multiple copies, one at a time, all fully clothed. Getting rid of all the copies, I go back to the first and transfer it to DoM. Now when I spawn in a copy, they come in naked. Argh! Here's where it gets weird. If I transfer the same (first) actor back to PAHE and then spawn a copy, they spawn fully clothed. Transfer them to DoM and they spawn naked. Transfer back to PAHE and they go back to spawning fully clothed. Note that I can change what the initial PAHE actor wears by choosing the "You're going to wear this" dialogue option without affecting later spawns (they spawn with usual bandit gear). So, by what esoteric process can I transfer my PAHE slave to DoM without resulting in naked bandits? Sure, I can stick with training in PAHE and HSH but I much prefer the added depth of DoM. I should note that I have tried disabling DoM fast keywords and "Add items to player inventory" options without success. Btw, as a last note I should add that all my previous slaves were enslaved directly into DoM. I tried transferring one to PAHE but it appears to be too late - additional copies spawned in naked. 1
DonQuiWho Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 6 hours ago, Thaladrius said: Okay, so I'm really trying to wrap my head around this one and hope someone can help. Having enslaved a few enemies, and subsequently noticing the same actor showing up naked when the game later spawns them, I decided to focus on enslaving some unique actors to avoid having Skyrim populated by a bunch of bandits running around naked. However, having AYGAS installed, I want to work on my progress as a slave trader so naturally I want to go back to enslaving bandits. So I decided to do some testing in the safety of my slave dungeon. First, I enabled the PAHE option to "Disable automatic Outfit". I then spawned in an actor via the console and enslaved them with PAHE. I tied up the slave and spawned in another copy of the same base actor and they spawned in fully clothed. Great. Got rid of the second one and using the PAHE dialogue on the first, ordered them to "Strip and set your outfit", which gives you the option "I want better control over what you wear (and I don't care what your actorbase might wear later)". Having done this, I spawn another copy of the same actor, and this time they're naked. Oops. Okay, so I start over, this time avoiding the PAHE dialogue mentioned above, and am able to spawn in multiple copies, one at a time, all fully clothed. Getting rid of all the copies, I go back to the first and transfer it to DoM. Now when I spawn in a copy, they come in naked. Argh! Here's where it gets weird. If I transfer the same (first) actor back to PAHE and then spawn a copy, they spawn fully clothed. Transfer them to DoM and they spawn naked. Transfer back to PAHE and they go back to spawning fully clothed. Note that I can change what the initial PAHE actor wears by choosing the "You're going to wear this" dialogue option without affecting later spawns (they spawn with usual bandit gear). So, by what esoteric process can I transfer my PAHE slave to DoM without resulting in naked bandits? Sure, I can stick with training in PAHE and HSH but I much prefer the added depth of DoM. I should note that I have tried disabling DoM fast keywords and "Add items to player inventory" options without success. Btw, as a last note I should add that all my previous slaves were enslaved directly into DoM. I tried transferring one to PAHE but it appears to be too late - additional copies spawned in naked. That's the best explanation I've read here so far wrt what actually happens I'd really really love to use DOM. (Did once long long ago, alongside PAHE, HSH and AYGAS, and it was great, but I don't remember this happening, or being the issue it seems to be now) DOM has SO much going for it wrt trainers, adjustable training speeds etc that it would be a great tool for the average slave merchant ? It's such a shame, but the training, sales and pimping mechanisms in HSH and AYGAS are so fundamental to the type of gameplay in which players are maybe more interested in the basic slaver's economy and trade, as opposed to the 'feelings' of the merchandise, that this outfit problem will continue - for me at any rate - to be a red flag at the moment. It worked OK before, so there must be a fix somewhere, but until someone susses out what it really is ?♂️
TrollAutokill Posted July 20, 2023 Author Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Thaladrius said: Okay, so I'm really trying to wrap my head around this one and hope someone can help. Having enslaved a few enemies, and subsequently noticing the same actor showing up naked when the game later spawns them, I decided to focus on enslaving some unique actors to avoid having Skyrim populated by a bunch of bandits running around naked. However, having AYGAS installed, I want to work on my progress as a slave trader so naturally I want to go back to enslaving bandits. So I decided to do some testing in the safety of my slave dungeon. First, I enabled the PAHE option to "Disable automatic Outfit". I then spawned in an actor via the console and enslaved them with PAHE. I tied up the slave and spawned in another copy of the same base actor and they spawned in fully clothed. Great. Got rid of the second one and using the PAHE dialogue on the first, ordered them to "Strip and set your outfit", which gives you the option "I want better control over what you wear (and I don't care what your actorbase might wear later)". Having done this, I spawn another copy of the same actor, and this time they're naked. Oops. Okay, so I start over, this time avoiding the PAHE dialogue mentioned above, and am able to spawn in multiple copies, one at a time, all fully clothed. Getting rid of all the copies, I go back to the first and transfer it to DoM. Now when I spawn in a copy, they come in naked. Argh! Here's where it gets weird. If I transfer the same (first) actor back to PAHE and then spawn a copy, they spawn fully clothed. Transfer them to DoM and they spawn naked. Transfer back to PAHE and they go back to spawning fully clothed. Note that I can change what the initial PAHE actor wears by choosing the "You're going to wear this" dialogue option without affecting later spawns (they spawn with usual bandit gear). So, by what esoteric process can I transfer my PAHE slave to DoM without resulting in naked bandits? Sure, I can stick with training in PAHE and HSH but I much prefer the added depth of DoM. I should note that I have tried disabling DoM fast keywords and "Add items to player inventory" options without success. Btw, as a last note I should add that all my previous slaves were enslaved directly into DoM. I tried transferring one to PAHE but it appears to be too late - additional copies spawned in naked. Try this: 1) spawn bandit (not naked) 2) enslave with DoM 3) spawn same bandit (naked) 4) release all bandits from DoM 5) spawn same bandit (should not be naked). Anyhow I will add an option in DoM for you guys who want actors to keep their outfits. But don't come and complain if they don't want to be naked afterwards. Edited July 20, 2023 by TrollAutokill 1
TrollAutokill Posted July 20, 2023 Author Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) On 7/16/2023 at 11:10 PM, c2o0o0l8 said: Recently after updating the mod to the new version, capturing of slave takes forever (the message "Slave has just been captured" not showing up). The slave just laying on the ground and I could not talk to her. I don't remember from which version it breaks, but I know 4.8.1 works and 4.8.4 breaks. I tried re-install 4.8.1 and it works again. On 7/19/2023 at 12:21 PM, AWHA2 said: Exactly the same problem here. It seem that the script is re-running over and over. I noticed a significant increase in my script load (and a huge decrease in FPS) when I capture new slaves. I'm using the latest version 4.9 If using 4.9, this should not happen. Are you on SE or LE and which actor exactly are you trying to enslave? EDIT: I managed to find a faulty bandit. It might be related to a problem with handling leveled items. trying to find a workaround. Edited July 20, 2023 by TrollAutokill 2
Thaladrius Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 7 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Try this: 1) spawn bandit (not naked) 2) enslave with DoM 3) spawn same bandit (naked) 4) release all bandits from DoM 5) spawn same bandit (should not be naked). Anyhow I will add an option in DoM for you guys who want actors to keep their outfits. But don't come and complain if they don't want to be naked afterwards. I tried as you suggested and sure enough, the bandit at step 5 didn't spawn naked. Cool. So I went back to a DoM enslaved actor which I had tried transferring to PAHE but still spawned naked (as mentioned in my original post). By releasing her from DoM, a new copy spawned in with expected equipment and not naked. That was encouraging. Re-enslaved the released slave, but this time via PAHE first before transferring to DoM. Their clothed result is now as I described previously when enslaving via PAHE first: when the slave is under PAHE control, new spawns are clothed, when under DoM control, they're naked. On a very plus side, it appears I didn't lose any DoM training status by releasing and then re-enslaving the actor. Awesome. One point I need clarification on is about your last statement. What exactly do you mean about slaves not wanting to be naked? In my testing under PAHE and DoM, the test slave stripped as expected when commanded to, and when a sex scene started. So I'm not sure what your getting at, unless your talking about keeping the slave naked all the time, i.e., not allowing them to ever wear clothes?
TrollAutokill Posted July 20, 2023 Author Posted July 20, 2023 10 hours ago, DonQuiWho said: That's the best explanation I've read here so far wrt what actually happens I'd really really love to use DOM. (Did once long long ago, alongside PAHE, HSH and AYGAS, and it was great, but I don't remember this happening, or being the issue it seems to be now) DOM has SO much going for it wrt trainers, adjustable training speeds etc that it would be a great tool for the average slave merchant ? It's such a shame, but the training, sales and pimping mechanisms in HSH and AYGAS are so fundamental to the type of gameplay in which players are maybe more interested in the basic slaver's economy and trade, as opposed to the 'feelings' of the merchandise, that this outfit problem will continue - for me at any rate - to be a red flag at the moment. It worked OK before, so there must be a fix somewhere, but until someone susses out what it really is ?♂️ What do you mean it worked before? This is a Skyrim feature, that's how it works. You can only remove or not remove outfits and both solutions are not satisfactory. 1
TrollAutokill Posted July 20, 2023 Author Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Thaladrius said: I tried as you suggested and sure enough, the bandit at step 5 didn't spawn naked. Cool. So I went back to a DoM enslaved actor which I had tried transferring to PAHE but still spawned naked (as mentioned in my original post). By releasing her from DoM, a new copy spawned in with expected equipment and not naked. That was encouraging. Re-enslaved the released slave, but this time via PAHE first before transferring to DoM. Their clothed result is now as I described previously when enslaving via PAHE first: when the slave is under PAHE control, new spawns are clothed, when under DoM control, they're naked. On a very plus side, it appears I didn't lose any DoM training status by releasing and then re-enslaving the actor. Awesome. One point I need clarification on is about your last statement. What exactly do you mean about slaves not wanting to be naked? In my testing under PAHE and DoM, the test slave stripped as expected when commanded to, and when a sex scene started. So I'm not sure what your getting at, unless your talking about keeping the slave naked all the time, i.e., not allowing them to ever wear clothes? I mean the outfit will be applied automatically by the m Skyrim engine when a new cell is loaded. For example: 1) enslave clothed bandit with PAH. 2) strip bandit without removing outfit. 3) spawn same bandit and make sure it is clothed. 4) fast travel with naked slave bandit. 5) is slave bandit still naked? 1
Thaladrius Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Sorry to be a pest but I do have one more nagging issue. I have a couple of slaves who have been in love with me for some time already, one of which has never been depressed or jealous (at least since falling in love), but for some reason the crying slaveTat never goes away, despite my trying to reset it via the MCM, and their mood clearly indicates that they're not crying and have no reason to. Any suggestions for this?
AWHA2 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: If using 4.9, this should not happen. Are you on SE or LE and which actor exactly are you trying to enslave? Did 4.9 change the script for applying the "empty" outfit? In my game I made a small mod that edits the "empty" outfit so that instead of just replacing the default outfit with an empty one, it applies my custom one instead. This worked fine in 4.8, but is suddenly broken in 4.9 Edited July 20, 2023 by AWHA2
DonQuiWho Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: What do you mean it worked before? This is a Skyrim feature, that's how it works. You can only remove or not remove outfits and both solutions are not satisfactory. I probably wrote that badly, so my apologies if it seemed harsh. That wasn't what I really intended I'm merely stating what I seem to remember 'seeing', but I'm getting very old and that was many games - and possibly years - ago, but I can move NPCs form PAH to HSH and back again with outfits and devices of my choosing, and I don't have naked bandits. It may be that if/when I transferred them to DOM and back, I didn't mess about with the outfits when in DOM and so nothing changed. But it was long ago So, TBC, I'm not at all disputing that what you say is technically correct. Trying to be practical about this problem, is there then any way that base outfits can just be 'hidden', ie make them 'invisible' (that might have to have some optionality to it), or set at some sort of lower 'wear priority' so that other player added items take precedence? Just trying another angle .... And thanks for all your effort on this mod. I'm not trying to disparage that at all DQW
Thaladrius Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: I mean the outfit will be applied automatically by the m Skyrim engine when a new cell is loaded. For example: 1) enslave clothed bandit with PAH. 2) strip bandit without removing outfit. 3) spawn same bandit and make sure it is clothed. 4) fast travel with naked slave bandit. 5) is slave bandit still naked? Ah okay, understood. Thanks for the clarification. Honestly for me that's not a problem since I never keep my slaves naked all the time anyway. Stripping them for humiliation training yes, and a sexlab scene of course, but otherwise they're always wearing something. I've always preferred having them clothed in something somewhat alluring. My base go-to is Tiwa44's minidresses collection for run of the mill slaves and for my favorites I use other clothing mods which I can best describe as sexy but not overtly revealing. A hint (and sometimes a bit more, lol) of what's underneath has always been more appealing to me than being bare ass naked. Looking forward to you adding the option to DoM for actors to keep their clothing as you stated earlier. Thanks for the mod and for all you're doing to make it better! 1
TrollAutokill Posted July 20, 2023 Author Posted July 20, 2023 Coming soon: This one is pretty much spot on, Spoiler 3
TrollAutokill Posted July 20, 2023 Author Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Thaladrius said: Ah okay, understood. Thanks for the clarification. Honestly for me that's not a problem since I never keep my slaves naked all the time anyway. Stripping them for humiliation training yes, and a sexlab scene of course, but otherwise they're always wearing something. I've always preferred having them clothed in something somewhat alluring. My base go-to is Tiwa44's minidresses collection for run of the mill slaves and for my favorites I use other clothing mods which I can best describe as sexy but not overtly revealing. A hint (and sometimes a bit more, lol) of what's underneath has always been more appealing to me than being bare ass naked. Looking forward to you adding the option to DoM for actors to keep their clothing as you stated earlier. Thanks for the mod and for all you're doing to make it better! Actually the option already exists. In the MCM go to the clone and clean tab and deselect "Clear spawned outfit". You can try it, but what I meant was, I never tested it and I will test it before next update. Edited July 20, 2023 by TrollAutokill
TrollAutokill Posted July 20, 2023 Author Posted July 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Thaladrius said: Sorry to be a pest but I do have one more nagging issue. I have a couple of slaves who have been in love with me for some time already, one of which has never been depressed or jealous (at least since falling in love), but for some reason the crying slaveTat never goes away, despite my trying to reset it via the MCM, and their mood clearly indicates that they're not crying and have no reason to. Any suggestions for this? Use SlaveTats MCM to remove it.
TrollAutokill Posted July 20, 2023 Author Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) On 7/14/2023 at 6:07 PM, DocClox said: Troll, I've been meaning to say for a while, but I think the "Import" option is broken again. Has been for a while. It could be your Settings.json that is corrupted. Try to save it to another name, do export settings and imports just to check it's working. Then edit the new json file to match your old file (try to make a diff of them to speed up the process). Edited July 20, 2023 by TrollAutokill
TrollAutokill Posted July 20, 2023 Author Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, AWHA2 said: Did 4.9 change the script for applying the "empty" outfit? In my game I made a small mod that edits the "empty" outfit so that instead of just replacing the default outfit with an empty one, it applies my custom one instead. This worked fine in 4.8, but is suddenly broken in 4.9 Is that when freeing them or when sending them to PAH/HSH/AYGAS?
c2o0o0l8 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 14 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: If using 4.9, this should not happen. Are you on SE or LE and which actor exactly are you trying to enslave? EDIT: I managed to find a faulty bandit. It might be related to a problem with handling leveled items. trying to find a workaround. Yes, 4.9 is better than 4.8.4, but it still happens in some rare cases.
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