[mod] Character Body Overhaul

[Teghat]

21 minutes ago, Mange2020 said:

Carnalitas by itself really doesn't do anything unless you turn on the specific game rules. It's a requirement because from a modding perspective its useful to have a unified framework for all of the mods here to link into, otherwise compatibility would be a nightmare. Still CBO interacts relatively little with Carnalitas by itself so it will still produce error messages, but probably nothing you would notice (besides animations not working).

But anyway yeah this explains it. It needs to be.

? - Human Phenotype Project (I don't know anything about this one besides it's existence)
 

1- Fullscreen Barbershop (don't think it matters much but I put mods like this at the top)

2- CFP

3- CBO

4- CBO-CFP Patch

Basically lower in the load order means it will overwrite the things above it. The edited CFP clothing is in CBO, not in the patch. The patch just makes it appear in game, it's easier to maintain that way for me. When I spoke to Tyrannus he said it was fine as long as the clothing didn't appear without CFP (so it's clear that it isn't my original work).

 

Yep, changing the load order worked. Thanks for your help! The clipping is mostly gone too, aside from very minor clipping of the plate armour itself (not legwear) on the butt.

[Mange2020]

3 minutes ago, Teghat said:

Yep, changing the load order worked. Thanks for your help! The clipping is mostly gone too, aside from very minor clipping of the plate armour itself (not legwear) on the butt.

Yeah, that's what I noticed and just fixed. When I modelled the blendshapes I must have modelled on top of a nude body instead of one wearing the legwear like I should have.

[deviron91]

[14:12:43][pdx_persistent_reader.cpp:228]: Error: "Unexpected token: female, near line: 2592
" in file: "common/genes/breast gene.txt" near line: 2592
[14:12:43][pdx_persistent_reader.cpp:228]: Error: "Unexpected token: boy, near line: 2593
" in file: "common/genes/breast gene.txt" near line: 2593
[14:12:43][pdx_persistent_reader.cpp:228]: Error: "Unexpected token: girl, near line: 2594
" in file: "common/genes/breast gene.txt" near line: 2594

 

Lines  

         female = {  }
         boy = female
         girl = female

outside bust_shape_4_full_gen closing bracket.

 

[Mange2020]

2 hours ago, deviron91 said:

[14:12:43][pdx_persistent_reader.cpp:228]: Error: "Unexpected token: female, near line: 2592
" in file: "common/genes/breast gene.txt" near line: 2592
[14:12:43][pdx_persistent_reader.cpp:228]: Error: "Unexpected token: boy, near line: 2593
" in file: "common/genes/breast gene.txt" near line: 2593
[14:12:43][pdx_persistent_reader.cpp:228]: Error: "Unexpected token: girl, near line: 2594
" in file: "common/genes/breast gene.txt" near line: 2594

 

Lines  

         female = {  }
         boy = female
         girl = female

outside bust_shape_4_full_gen closing bracket.

 

oof, that's pretty major. guess I didn't notice because my breast gene is overwritten by physical attributes (in testing)

[Mange2020]

2 hours ago, deviron91 said:

[14:12:43][pdx_persistent_reader.cpp:228]: Error: "Unexpected token: female, near line: 2592
" in file: "common/genes/breast gene.txt" near line: 2592
[14:12:43][pdx_persistent_reader.cpp:228]: Error: "Unexpected token: boy, near line: 2593
" in file: "common/genes/breast gene.txt" near line: 2593
[14:12:43][pdx_persistent_reader.cpp:228]: Error: "Unexpected token: girl, near line: 2594
" in file: "common/genes/breast gene.txt" near line: 2594

 

Lines  

         female = {  }
         boy = female
         girl = female

outside bust_shape_4_full_gen closing bracket.

 

Fixed, and I guess it means that yall get a couple of then new clothing things I finished in the meantime.

[deviron91]

44 minutes ago, Mange2020 said:

Fixed, and I guess it means that yall get a couple of then new clothing things I finished in the meantime.

Thanks

[NOOneIsGoods]

Game crashes when going into "costumise further area"error.log

error.log

[darkhost1]

For some reason, the game crashes when I click on "Customize Further" in Create a Character

error.log

[Mange2020]

6 hours ago, NOOneIsGoods said:

Game crashes when going into "costumise further area"error.log

error.log 95.45 kB · 8 downloads

 

2 hours ago, darkhost1 said:

For some reason, the game crashes when I click on "Customize Further" in Create a Character

error.logFetching info...

Unfortunately ruler designer stuff is awful to deal with and often isn't in the error log. Turned out I marked the gene allowing for high heels to work in a way that the game tried to put in the ruler designer.

[meenret]

I don't know why but this mod makes all the women have men faces

Pretty funny but not what I wanted ?

[Aski Love]

2 hours ago, meenret said:

I don't know why but this mod makes all the women have men faces

Pretty funny but not what I wanted ?

On 3/27/2022 at 5:02 PM, Jepso said:

I think I have found a temporary solution.
Go mod\char_body_overhaul\common\genes and delete body_hair_gene.txt & decal_genes.txt.

I have no idea what they do, but they are the exact same files with two different names.
Checking the previous version did not exist. For now it works, we'll wait for the creator for a fix. ?

 

[fdldfsgkjhsdfgkjhsdfg]

Is there any way to get the body shape, particularly the breasts to be changed back to the vanilla shapes? Each one is shaped like a square watermelon. It takes away from the immersion since most breast sizes are no where near that size and shapes. 

I love the rest of it, but I'm, only using it for animations

 

 

 

 

[Mange2020]

4 hours ago, meenret said:

I don't know why but this mod makes all the women have men faces

Pretty funny but not what I wanted ?

 

2 hours ago, Jepso said:

 

When did you download this version? It seems to be a rare issue that happens on some people's games but I've never been able to replicate it in my game. I had believed it should be gone. 

I know it's related to the gender morphing gene designed to allow players to make characters appear male or female. But I don't know what it's being applied. Also this appears to be one the load screen. The fix I made was to the gene files and the portrait modifier files. If it was the portrait modifier files you would have to load the game for the fix to be apparent.

[Mange2020]

53 minutes ago, fdldfsgkjhsdfgkjhsdfg said:

Is there any way to get the body shape, particularly the breasts to be changed back to the vanilla shapes? Each one is shaped like a square watermelon. It takes away from the immersion since most breast sizes are no where near that size and shapes. 

I love the rest of it, but I'm, only using it for animations

 

 

 

 

Read the mod info regarding any sizes. If you mean you don't like the shapes I made, then I guess you would have to learn how to the 3d model and make your own version of a breast shape model that's compatible with my high poly count meshes that are weight painted to allow for more realistic animations, because the low poly paradox meshes definitely aren't, too many sharp edges due to the low poly count, and they lack necessary bones in the animation rig.

FWIW in terms of immersion we really have no damn idea what the "average" breast size is now. It varies greatly from country to country. In the US (based on sales data) its around a 34DD, similar in Nordic countries. It's a lot higher now than it used to be but most people think it's because women were getting bras that were too small. The paradox vanilla shapes have the base model as a B-C cup and the "max" as a D-DD. Mine go up further to around J because it's about the largest that you will see occur naturally, although this is uncommon and I haven't adjusted for it in this mod. That sort of stuff is dealt with in Physical attributes (though I err a bit on the larger side versus reality there).

Edit: I just wanted to note if the shape looks off it might be because you are looking at the bust_clothed shape. The shape of that one does look a little off because it's intended to be used with clothing (ie compressed and lifted) 

Edited March 31, 2022 by Mange2020

[afpg]

Mange2020, the "Bearded Ladies" issue happens on the latest available version of
the mod, regardless if you load the game or not.

It makes no sense that you wouldn't be able to reproduce this, are you perhaps
loading other mods as well, or using your local modified copies?

With a clean copy of CK3, the latest version of this mod loaded, and nothing
else (or with Carnalitas, there's no difference), the problem should be evident.

> I know it's related to the gender morphing gene designed to allow players to
> make characters appear male or female

Where can I find this gene? I wouldn't mind deleting it as I have no interest
in that feature and it's causing a lot of problems.

[fdldfsgkjhsdfgkjhsdfg]

2 hours ago, Mange2020 said:

Read the mod info regarding any sizes. If you mean you don't like the shapes I made, then I guess you would have to learn how to the 3d model and make your own version of a breast shape model that's compatible with my high poly count meshes that are weight painted to allow for more realistic animations, because the low poly paradox meshes definitely aren't, too many sharp edges due to the low poly count, and they lack necessary bones in the animation rig.

FWIW in terms of immersion we really have no damn idea what the "average" breast size is now. It varies greatly from country to country. In the US (based on sales data) its around a 34DD, similar in Nordic countries. It's a lot higher now than it used to be but most people think it's because women were getting bras that were too small. The paradox vanilla shapes have the base model as a B-C cup and the "max" as a D-DD. Mine go up further to around J because it's about the largest that you will see occur naturally, although this is uncommon and I haven't adjusted for it in this mod. That sort of stuff is dealt with in Physical attributes (though I err a bit on the larger side versus reality there).

Edit: I just wanted to note if the shape looks off it might be because you are looking at the bust_clothed shape. The shape of that one does look a little off because it's intended to be used with clothing (ie compressed and lifted) 

I'm sorry if you took offense, I meant none. 

[Aski Love]

1 hour ago, afpg said:

Where can I find this gene? I wouldn't mind deleting it as I have no interest
in that feature and it's causing a lot of problems.

 

See my post above..?

[afpg]

But the files you mentioned contain more than just the morphing gene don't they?
In particular the body hair file seems to mostly assign things to the proper
gender, it is only on the last few definitions that "female stubbles" come in.
The other file is way too long to thoroughly check but the situation looks similar.
Getting rid of them does fix the problem, but it leaves me wondering if it will
also lead to any unintended side-effects.

[Mange2020]

2 hours ago, fdldfsgkjhsdfgkjhsdfg said:

I'm sorry if you took offense, I meant none. 

Didn't take offense. Just trying to relay that plopping the vanilla shapes back in can't work. And when else am I going to have an opportunity to talk about the research I did on average sizes and population distributions when I made this?

[Mange2020]

3 hours ago, afpg said:

Mange2020, the "Bearded Ladies" issue happens on the latest available version of
the mod, regardless if you load the game or not.

It makes no sense that you wouldn't be able to reproduce this, are you perhaps
loading other mods as well, or using your local modified copies?

With a clean copy of CK3, the latest version of this mod loaded, and nothing
else (or with Carnalitas, there's no difference), the problem should be evident.

> I know it's related to the gender morphing gene designed to allow players to
> make characters appear male or female

Where can I find this gene? I wouldn't mind deleting it as I have no interest
in that feature and it's causing a lot of problems.

 

1 hour ago, afpg said:

But the files you mentioned contain more than just the morphing gene don't they?
In particular the body hair file seems to mostly assign things to the proper
gender, it is only on the last few definitions that "female stubbles" come in.
The other file is way too long to thoroughly check but the situation looks similar.
Getting rid of them does fix the problem, but it leaves me wondering if it will
also lead to any unintended side-effects.

I completely agree that it makes no sense, and yet here we are lol.  This is the latest CBO loaded with nothing except Carnalitas (which is a prerequisite mod). I could click around to any female and see no stubble. I've spoken to a bunch of people on the Carnalitas discord who have the update and who never experienced this. The person I troubleshooted the problem with before (why I thought it was fixed) had a similar issue but it wasn't the same. Specifically it was females being improperly being given the male old gene. 

But since I can't replicate I can't troubleshoot, if you want to help me troubleshoot I will happily try to help. But it seems* to be a relatively rare issue.

What I would suggest is to delete CBO entirely from your mod folder. Redownload the mod via the MEGA link and unzip that back into your mod folder. (Sometimes people combine instead of replacing and it creates problems).

See if its fixed. If its not. Then you can delete both the body_hair_gene and decal_genes all they do is allow the face to flip genders. But it would be more helpful to me if you instead delete 00_body_hair_morph in gfx\portraits\portrait_modifiers and let me know if that fixes it. It would help me isolate why y'all are getting the issue.

If you delete those genes you should delete, 00_body_hair_morph and 02_gender_morph in gfx\portraits\portrait_modifiers as well. I think that would prevent the game from throwing errors that would slow it down.

Edited March 31, 2022 by Mange2020

[afpg]

I think I got it, it was a pilot error; I misread the latest CK3 patchnotes
and thought I was in the latest version while in fact I was a couple patches
behind (1.5.0.1).  I still find it rather odd how multiple people made this
same mistake, you might want to bump up the required version to "1.5.1.*".

 

Sorry for the noise!

 

[ilay.g]

19 hours ago, Mange2020 said:

 

Unfortunately ruler designer stuff is awful to deal with and often isn't in the error log. Turned out I marked the gene allowing for high heels to work in a way that the game tried to put in the ruler designer.

Can you suggest how to solve this problem?

[Mange2020]

2 hours ago, ilay.g said:

Can you suggest how to solve this problem?

It's fixed in the version I posted when I wrote this. Or it's one line you could go into the heels gene and delete it if you want.

[qb58umb1h23a2eh5zzs]

On 3/27/2022 at 5:02 PM, Jepso said:

I think I have found a temporary solution.
Go mod\char_body_overhaul\common\genes and delete body_hair_gene.txt & decal_genes.txt.

I have no idea what they do, but they are the exact same files with two different names.
Checking the previous version did not exist. For now it works, we'll wait for the creator for a fix. ?

 

Thanks man, I enjoyed this early april fool's joke, tbh. Your workaround actually fixed it.

 

@Mange2020, I can only confirm that the problem still exists with the current version (despite a fresh, empty mod-folder and all...)

 

 

[sagimine1]

For those having issue with mix gender character. Did you use the debug mode and mess around with the gender portrait option? It is right after the muscle size option. I think this what cause my character to be out of whack. I fix the issue by having my character died in a 'untimely' death by the insidious debug.