Human NPCS Not attacking? (Bandits/Forsworn)

[NME2800]

Hey! Long time modder and FINALLY got all the mods I've ever wanted to play nice with one another without random crashes and such, but now I have a weird issue where any human NPC I encounter in the wild won't attack me. I.E. Witches, Bandits, Forsworn... Animals and anything else attack just fine, and if I attack them they'll attack me, but for the life of me I can't figure out which mod effects NPCs designating targets as their suppose to. I've checked Realm of Lorkhan to see if it was their faction ability, but nope. If anyone has any idea what mod could be causing it, or maybe one of my settings needs to be adjusted, that'd be great!

List of mods:
ZazAnimation: Nope
XP32: Nope

Wintermyst Enchantments of Skyrim: Doubtful

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary patch: Doubtful

Unique Uniques: Nope 

UFO: Doubtful

Trees HD: Nope

The Oblivion Realms Series: Doubtful

Summermyst Enchantments of Skyrim: Doubtful

Static Mesh Improvement: Nope

SOS: Nope

SL Stories: Doubtful

SL Stories Devious: Doubtful

SL Dialogues

SL Defeat: Maybe?
Sky UI: Nope

Skyrim Utility mod: Nope

Sexlab Framework: Doubtful

Sexlab Animation Loader: Nope

Sanguine's Debauchery: Maybe?
Sacrificial Spriggan: Doubtful

Remodeled armor for UUNP: Nope

Religion: Nope

Realm of Lorkhan: Maybe?
Real Shelter: Nope

Race Menu: Nope

Ordinator: Nope

Naked Dungeons: Maybe?

Morenastycritters; Nope

Milk Mod Economy: Maybe?
Maids II Deception: Nope

Loot and Degradation: Maybe?

Immersive Weapons: Nope

Forgotten Magic Redone: Nope

fishburger67: Uh...?

Sisterhood of Dibella: Maybe?

Deviously Cursed Loot: Maybe?

Devious Mimic Clothing: Maybe?

Devious Regulations: Nope

Devious Lore: Maybe?

Death Alternative: Maybe?

Andromeda Unique standing stones: Nope

The Bijin Collection: Nope

Deadly Dragons: Nope

 

I started to skip around near the end since I doubt a lot of the texture mods would really have anything to do with this, but if anyone has any ideas that'd be great
 

[lelelehue]

Probably won't help much, but an idea I have for this it to use the ingame console to see if any plugin is modifying those folks that are supposed to be hostile.

[NME2800]

26 minutes ago, Fiderisu said:

Probably won't help much, but an idea I have for this it to use the ingame console to see if any plugin is modifying those folks that are supposed to be hostile.

If this is what you mean, I don't really see anything there that could cause it

[lelelehue]

8 minutes ago, NME2800 said:

If this is what you mean, I don't really see anything there that could cause it

Yeah nothing seems to directly modify it judging from the bottom right.

 

Have you seen this?

Culprit was DA and you have it as well.

[NME2800]

3 hours ago, Fiderisu said:

Yeah nothing seems to directly modify it judging from the bottom right.

 

Have you seen this?

Culprit was DA and you have it as well.

I hadn't actually! But after trying what they recommended, and taking it a step further and completely uninstalling DA after disabling the mod in MCM AND running all of the utilities, I can safely say that's not the problem in my case...

 

Also, I can still attack the bandits and then they actually attack, but it's only when I damage them. All other NPCs will flee until they take damage as well.. Which isn't the end of the world, but it's kind of cheeky how I can plot and plan how to handle a room full of people by picking them off one at a time...

[travelmedic]

Do you have TES5Edit installed to see if anything is altering your factions?

[Grey Cloud]

It won't help your problem but this

Wintermyst Enchantments of Skyrim

is just the old version of this

Summermyst Enchantments of Skyrim

[NME2800]

26 minutes ago, travelmedic said:

Do you have TES5Edit installed to see if anything is altering your factions?

I do! But what am I looking for from it?

[NME2800]

15 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

It won't help your problem but this

Wintermyst Enchantments of Skyrim

is just the old version of this

Summermyst Enchantments of Skyrim

Ohhhh, I figured they had some kind of difference lol like some sort of seasonal thing, thanks tho!

[travelmedic]

23 hours ago, NME2800 said:

I do! But what am I looking for from it?

Unfortunately I just got a new computer and don't have Skyrim installed on it yet, or else I'd screenshot it.

 

If your TES5Edit is installed correctly, when you run it you should see a list of all of your active esm and esp files.  If you click the "+" next to Skyrim, it will expand and you'll see stuff like NPC, Armor, Objects, etc.  If you keep expanding the categories, I think (not 100% positive) you'll find a section called "Factions" and then that will have subsections for Bandits, Forsworn, Whiterun, Acadias Cauldron, and so on and so forth.  Look to see if any of the boxes those factions are in are colored red.  If the box is colored red, then single click on it and in the right pane of TES5Edit you'll see columns that list the mods that conflict with those factions, if any.

 

I don't know that factions are your problem, but it's possible you have a mod that adds your character to those factions as a friend, hence the reason they don't attack.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

14 hours ago, travelmedic said:

Unfortunately I just got a new computer and don't have Skyrim installed on it yet, or else I'd screenshot it.

 

If your TES5Edit is installed correctly, when you run it you should see a list of all of your active esm and esp files.  If you click the "+" next to Skyrim, it will expand and you'll see stuff like NPC, Armor, Objects, etc.  If you keep expanding the categories, I think (not 100% positive) you'll find a section called "Factions" and then that will have subsections for Bandits, Forsworn, Whiterun, Acadias Cauldron, and so on and so forth.  Look to see if any of the boxes those factions are in are colored red.  If the box is colored red, then single click on it and in the right pane of TES5Edit you'll see columns that list the mods that conflict with those factions, if any.

 

I don't know that factions are your problem, but it's possible you have a mod that adds your character to those factions as a friend, hence the reason they don't attack.

Load all mods into xedit, click skyrim.esm and expand factions.  I Would also look in skyrim.esm and expand non-player character and look at Player to see what faction your player has. 

 

have you tested on new game? i would install alt start for testing with new game

[NME2800]

On 1/28/2021 at 7:08 PM, travelmedic said:

Unfortunately I just got a new computer and don't have Skyrim installed on it yet, or else I'd screenshot it.

 

If your TES5Edit is installed correctly, when you run it you should see a list of all of your active esm and esp files.  If you click the "+" next to Skyrim, it will expand and you'll see stuff like NPC, Armor, Objects, etc.  If you keep expanding the categories, I think (not 100% positive) you'll find a section called "Factions" and then that will have subsections for Bandits, Forsworn, Whiterun, Acadias Cauldron, and so on and so forth.  Look to see if any of the boxes those factions are in are colored red.  If the box is colored red, then single click on it and in the right pane of TES5Edit you'll see columns that list the mods that conflict with those factions, if any.

 

I don't know that factions are your problem, but it's possible you have a mod that adds your character to those factions as a friend, hence the reason they don't attack.

Ok! So I see what you mean now, and Bandit factions are in red! Looking deeper into it I can see what had changed it.. BUT I'm also seeing that Skyrim has it listed as Friend as well... Is that bad? Or anything to think on?

[NME2800]

11 hours ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

Load all mods into xedit, click skyrim.esm and expand factions.  I Would also look in skyrim.esm and expand non-player character and look at Player to see what faction your player has. 

 

have you tested on new game? i would install alt start for testing with new game

I did test it on a new game, it worked fine there... I think what the problem was was that Deviously Helpless was getting stuck and leaving me on Friendly with Bandits and such, trying everything without it to see if the problem occurs again!

 

[NME2800]

Ok! I've been playing for about a day now with the Deviously Helpless mod disabled and the problem is now gone! Thanks everyone!