[mod] Carnal Consequences

[Siudhne]

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Carnal Consequences

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Carnal Consequences

Version 1.13

 

Note: After years of not playing CK3 I've decided to stop maintaining my CK3 mods. Feel free to do whatever with them. If you share an update in the support threat, I'll update the mod page accordingly.

 

 

The goal of this mod is to fix all kinds of mechanics related to lewd gameplay, and to make CK3 a harsher and more unforgiving game in general. Most features can be disabled via game rules.

 

• Git Repository
• Discord (the server is for Intimate Encounters mainly, see sub-channel for Carnal Consequences)

 

Features

 

Fertility Reduction

• Fertility is already not the greatest stat to begin with and is in danger of being trivialized further with the addition of more sex scenes. To counter this, you can reduce your own fertility to make fertility buffs as important as they should be.
• Can be set from 0% to a punishing -80% for you and your married children separately.
• Note: Since children don't benefit from sex scenes, you probably want to set their debuff lower than your own. Personally, I prefer -60%/-20% (you/children).

 

Younger Rulers

• Large age differences between spouses or concubines result in opinion penalties
• Annoyed that your rulers are always old by the time you play them? Well, here's a not very historical solution via events (which must be enabled separately since it's probably not for everyone): In YOUR dynasty, people are expected to rule once they are old enough (with "old enough" being defined by the game rule). Once a year, when your primary heir is old enough, they may demand that you abdicate. Yearly chance increases the older they are. You can accept right then and there, or you refuse for a stacking opinion debuff with your vassals. Works with titles with voting succession, but your primary heir needs to be at least 15 years younger than you to prevent an abdication loop. Also, to prevent an early game over, you are never asked to abdicate by a primary heir that is not of your dynasty.
• Personally, I'm now using Ultimogeniture Partitition instead with similar results, but I'll leave this in since I need the gamerule slot for the large age difference feature anyway.

 

Harsher Seductions

• Players no longer have full control over seduction outcomes targeted against them. After all, you are being seduced! However, you still have some degree of control. If the seducer fails to seduce you, you can no longer make them your lover regardless, and having one-time sex with them causes stress. If the seducer succeeds in seducing you, you can no longer turn them away completely, and not making them a lover causes stress.
  • Note: seems theres an event chain that still provides players with full control. Will need to take a look in the future.
• Increase number of seductions targeted at you by two- or even sixfold, more if you are attractive, less if you are unattractive.

 

Harsher Courtship

• Same as harsher seductions, but for romance attempts.

 

Harsher Abductions

• AI will actually start abduction schemes! Vanilla AI (or if the game rule is disabled) never used abductions as far as I could see, save maybe for some exotic events that trigger them. Uses a tweaked logic of murder schemes.
• Allows AI to attempt abductions event against players (only) without the kidnapper perk - the perk grants a +50% chance bonus instead.
• "Abductions+" grants a +100% chance to AI-against-player-abductions.

 

Martial Custom grants Prowess

• Everyone gains a prowess bonus or malus according to their martial custom. In most cultures, this means males will be stronger on average, which can be relevant for sub/dom relationships via Dynamic Affairs.

 

Other (always on - if there is demand for a game rule, let me know)

• Being recently raped incurs a fertility debuff
• Prostitution can sometimes lead to pregnancy (it can't with vanilla Carnalitas)
• 1 event, courtesy of writing by Rak1445 (requires noncon to be enabled in Carnalitas)

 

 

Load Order

1. Carnalitas
2. Carnal Consequences

 

 

Supported Mods (any load order)

• Gamerule Gadget (allows changing the game rules mid-game)

 

 

Compatibility

• The following files are overwritten for seduce, abduction and romance functionality. If another mod modifies the same files, choose who takes precedence by putting it at the bottom of the load order. All other functionality is compatible with virtually anything.
  • Overwrites seduce_interaction and start_abduct in "common/character_interactions/00_scheme_interactions.txt".
  • Overwrites "common/schemes/abduct_scheme.txt", "common/schemes/court_scheme.txt" and "common/schemes/seduce_scheme.txt"
  • Overwrites "court_scheme_ongoing_events.txt", "court_scheme_ongoing.txt" and "court_scheme_outcome_events.txt"  in "events/scheme_events/court_scheme/"
  • Overwrites "events/scheme_events/seduce_scheme_outcome_events.txt"

 

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• Submitter
  Siudhne
• Submitted
  12/07/2020
• Category
  Crusader Kings 3
• Requirements
  Carnalitas

 

[DyonisX]

I posted this on a different thread so I'll just paste it
 

Hey,
was using Carnal Consequences 1.1 (1.2 just came out and I'm updating it) and there's a "Make Love" event where you're a woman and you use a dagger to do butt stuff to your male partner, anyway, that specific event doesn't reduce Arousal at all (It does reduce stress), I'm wondering if that issue is because of the Unified Sex Mod framework. the Consequences mod, the Arousal System mod (also received an update and I'm updating it now) or something else?
 

I've only had that dagger scene and one other scene during "Make Love", and the other one did in fact reduce arousal.

EDIT: Tried the same scene again after updating the arousal mods and it still only affects stress, arousal is starting to get out of hand (I was trying to manage it by constantly raping the same person over and over but now he's on the verge of death from how injured he is and he's the only person I can really get away with)

[Siudhne]

 

 

anyway, that specific event doesn't reduce Arousal at all (It does reduce stress), I'm wondering if that issue is because of the Unified Sex Mod framework. the Consequences mod, the Arousal System mod (also received an update and I'm updating it now) or something else?

No, that's on me. New savegames worked fine, but old ones were broken because of changes with game rules. I've fixed the problem now, please download Carnal Consequences 1.2-hotfix2 and update to Carnalitas Arousal Framework 0.2

[DyonisX]

 

 

No, that's on me. New savegames worked fine, but old ones were broken because of changes with game rules. I've fixed the problem now, please download Carnal Consequences 1.2-hotfix2 and update to Carnalitas Arousal Framework 0.2

I installed the hotfix and the framework update but the arousal meter is stuck, I checked the game rules tab and this is what it looks like

[DyonisX]

So unless you could somehow help me fix it, I think the arousal system is completely broken on the same, any idea how I could at least reduce the arousal value back to 0 so it doesn't keep randomly giving me stress in the meantime? 

[Siudhne]

 

I installed the hotfix and the framework update but the arousal meter is stuck, I checked the game rules tab and this is what it looks like

That's weird. I've removed a couple of game rules, but I see no such broken game rules on my old saves games. Can you verify if arousal neither increases or decreases or if only of increase or decrease is broken? Also, just to be sure, does the "not-with-dagger" scene still reduce arousal, or does it no longer reduce arousal either?

 

If you randomly gain stress, that's because of the Carnalitas game rule "gain stress through arousal", which does not actually has something to do with Arousal as managed by the Arousal Framework. It simply intended to cancel out any stress loss by the Carnalitas "Make love" interaction. We'll probably need better game rule names to distinguish those two in the future.

 

Edit: For periodic Arousal gain, please also test switching characters and waiting for ~a quarter year to see if it picks up. Also, did you use the simple arousal gain in Carnalitas Arousal Framework (which adds +1 arousal every 6 days) or the one in Carnal Consequences (they're now both in one game rule in Carnal Consequences)?

[DyonisX]

Okay let me go through everything:

Make Love: Enabled
Arousal Causes Stress: Enabled
Arousal Effects: Enabled
Arousal Gain: Sophisticated
Sex Effects: Enabled
Arousal Management: Normal
(Not sure exactly what the 3 missing settings are, I guess one of them is the "Simple Arousal Gain" you mentioned, I think I had it turned off?) 

 

My original character: (Woman) I fast forwarded a few months and arousal is firmly stuck at 257.7/300, I think I got a different sex scene as well but it was neither the dagger one nor the short one that used to reduce arousal (the tooltip on the button to close it said no immediate effects).

Changed character to a random person across the world, male, no arousal gain at all, stuck at 0.

The relevant (or semi-relevant) parts of my modlist are, in this order:
Debauchery in CK
DWToska
AdroitReligion
Submissive Partners
Carnalitas
Cheri - Carnalitas Mundi
Carnalitas Arousal System
Carnal Consequences
Sex Slaves for Carnalitas
SS - Carnalitas

EDIT: I updated the game from 1.2.1 to 1.2.2 and those missing settings in the Game Rules are gone now, but Arousal is still stuck, both for my character and when swapping to someone else.

[Siudhne]

The Carnalitas Arousal Framework update would explain two missing game rules, one for passive arousal game (now called Arousal Gain: "Simple" and merged into Carnal Consequences) and one for enabling Arousal Management in the first place (which didn't do anything anyway). No idea where the third missing game rule would come from, maybe some other mod. Either way, since you didn't even use the "simple" arousal gain which got moved, you should be good.

 

However, I still cannot fathom what the problem might cause. Could you maybe upload a save file, preferrably one saved with old versions of Carnal Consequences and Carnalitas Arousal System? Maybe I can find something by tinkering with the save on my end.

[DyonisX]

These saves were made 9 minutes apart so (battle 2nd try is the oldest) I renamed the other 2 for what I think the version of Consequences they were running was, both before the hotfix was installed

1.1.ck3 1.2.ck3 battle 2nd try.ck3

[Siudhne]

5 hours ago, DyonisX said:

These saves were made 9 minutes apart so (battle 2nd try is the oldest) I renamed the other 2 for what I think the version of Consequences they were running was, both before the hotfix was installed

1.1.ck3 6.01 MB · 1.2.ck3 6.13 MB · battle 2nd try.ck3 5.98 MB ·

Alright, first a shout-out to Paradox! Thanks for forcing me to edit save games by hand in order to use them without DLCs. It's not like it's working flawlessly with(out) mods, but whatever.

 

Anyway, I've found the issue to be my own stupidity. I've uploaded a hotfix for Carnal Consequences when the fix I've made was actually for the Arousal Framework. D'oh! ?

Sorry about that, please re-download the 0.2 Framework with hotfix. It should fix the issue now for real.

[DyonisX]

12 hours ago, Siudhne said:

Alright, first a shout-out to Paradox! Thanks for forcing me to edit save games by hand in order to use them without DLCs. It's not like it's working flawlessly with(out) mods, but whatever.

 

Anyway, I've found the issue to be my own stupidity. I've uploaded a hotfix for Carnal Consequences when the fix I've made was actually for the Arousal Framework. D'oh! ?

Sorry about that, please re-download the 0.2 Framework with hotfix. It should fix the issue now for real.

I'm gaining arousal again, but the Make Love scene, with the dagger at least, still doesn't reduce arousal, so I still lack a reliable way of reducing it, what do I do?

EDIT: I just got the event from reaching max arousal that has me picking between visiting a brothel or persuading someone and it said "50% No immediate effects/50% no immediate effects" so something is definitely missing, arousal didn't go down either

[Siudhne]

On 12/24/2020 at 1:14 AM, DyonisX said:

I'm gaining arousal again, but the Make Love scene, with the dagger at least, still doesn't reduce arousal, so I still lack a reliable way of reducing it, what do I do?

EDIT: I just got the event from reaching max arousal that has me picking between visiting a brothel or persuading someone and it said "50% No immediate effects/50% no immediate effects" so something is definitely missing, arousal didn't go down either

Ok, good, arousal changes again. I suspect it's now the specific sex scene that's broken, but let's try to narrow down what's going on.

 

The event options you mentioned should look like this:

 

 

and, after clicking on it, trigger a random Carnalitas sex scene with a random prostitute or the courtier in question, like this:

 

 

Am I correct to assume that the "50% No immediate effects/50% no immediate effects" message takes place here, at the sex scene? That's probably some hiccup with hidden effects and tooltips. But it has no bearing on arousal anyway, as you can see from my screenshot I get a "No immediate effects..." message as well.

 

Meanwhile, when the sex scene was shown to you, there should be a small message window on the right side which displays the sex effects:

 

If everything I said is correct so far, but you don't see that message window, it means that the author of the sex scene in question (the dagger scene?) forgot to use carn_had_sex_with_effect. Your best bet would then be to contact that mod author to add that missing part so that Carnal Consequences can hook into the scene.

 

[DyonisX]

 

Here's what the decision screen looks like


This is the dagger scene, I guess it's titled 'Passionate Night'

After the event ends there's no popup whatsoever related to the intercourse outcome and arousal doesn't change either.

EDIT: Raping courtiers still works for reducing arousal

[Siudhne]

On 12/24/2020 at 3:38 PM, DyonisX said:

This is the dagger scene, I guess it's titled 'Passionate Night'

After the event ends there's no popup whatsoever related to the intercourse outcome and arousal doesn't change either.

Investigated the event with the mod list you provided. It's from "Debauchery in CK", which needs to be updated for current Carnalitas and Crusader Kings versions. I've actually told the mod author a while ago which specific changes they need to make, but it seems they are no longer active.

[DyonisX]

1 hour ago, Siudhne said:

Investigated the event with the mod list you provided. It's from "Debauchery in CK", which needs to be updated for current Carnalitas and Crusader Kings versions. I've actually told the mod author a while ago which specific changes they need to make, but it seems they are no longer active.

Should I just disable debauchery then?

[Siudhne]

2 hours ago, DyonisX said:

Should I just disable debauchery then?

That's probably for the best. Use outdated mods at your own peril.

[zhangf112]

does it works on AI ？or just player.

[Siudhne]

4 hours ago, zhangf112 said:

does it works on AI ？or just player.

Arousal can in principle be tracked for AI actors, but all gameplay effects in Carnal Consequences are player-only.

[Gabe Lincoln]

I'm getting this UI issue when I have the mod active. I have tested it, and it's the Arousal framework mod that causes it to happen along with significantly smaller alert pop-ups

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These are the mods I have enabled. Mod 1 is Spouse Designer, and is enabled. As far as I can tell the only thing necessary to get this bug is having the arousal framework active. I believe I am on the latest version of all mods here considering I downloaded them all 2 or so days ago.

 

Edit: I am at 100% UI scaling, so it's not a UI scaling issue, although UI scaling causes the notifications drop down menu thing to overlap with the UI in the top right which I assume is also an issue with this mod.

[Siudhne]

Good catch! It seems the hud.gui file which I have to overwrite for the widget has changed in one of the latest CK versions. Will fix that in the next update.

[blitz8529]

The scenes are very rare, a couple of play throughs now as a vampire and only seen 2. I have only seen the rape fantasy scene and the one where you dream of a giant and the suprise after was great. They were both great but the giant one was superb. I would like to see the scenes when clicking make love is there a way to edit it so when I use make love it increases the chances. Do the fetish scenes repeat. I only see an option for try something new which gives me a new fetish and almost always it doesn't have a scene with other than the detailed make love scene that is regular sex. I hit the debug to try it again its the same scene the wording changes but its never about any fetishes.

[Siudhne]

2 hours ago, blitz8529 said:

The scenes are very rare, a couple of play throughs now as a vampire and only seen 2. I have only seen the rape fantasy scene and the one where you dream of a giant and the suprise after was great. They were both great but the giant one was superb. I would like to see the scenes when clicking make love is there a way to edit it so when I use make love it increases the chances. Do the fetish scenes repeat. I only see an option for try something new which gives me a new fetish and almost always it doesn't have a scene with other than the detailed make love scene that is regular sex. I hit the debug to try it again its the same scene the wording changes but its never about any fetishes.

I see there is a bit of confusion. There are different mods doing different things, all intertwined.

 

Basically, you have to distinguish three things:

• Events that are generic sex scenes.
  • These never appear on its own. They are always called by other events.
  • Carnalitas manages these events, but it's up to other mods to actually add sex scenes.
  • The "make love" interaction shows you one of these.
  • Example: Intimate Encounters adds randomly generated sex scenes (the ones where you can press "again" in debug mode and titled "Intimate Encounter").
• Events that use generic sex scenes.
  • Example: Carnal Consequences adds an arousal coping event. One of the possible options is "try out a new fetish", which can result in a sex scene. If that happens, it uses a generic sex scene (see above) from a different mod. Ideally, there would be a fitting sex scene for the fetish that has been added. However, nobody has created sex scenes with fetishes for Carnalitas yet. That is why you are getting a vanilla sex scene instead.
• Events that are unique sex scenes.
  • Example: Intimate Encounters adds an event where you dream of a giant. This has a unique sex scene suitable for the situation of having dream-sex with a giant. It does not call Carnalitas to get generic sex scene. And it cannot be called by Carnalitas if someone else requests a generic sex scene. Thus, it can never show up when you use the "make love" interaction.

In all cases, Carnal Consequences can apply Sex Effects such as reducing arousal, if the sex scene has been properly registered with Carnalitas.

[blitz8529]

Thank you Siudhne, for breaking that down for me. 

[lidashisb]

Simplified Chinese translation

simp_chinese.zip

[Siudhne]

On 3/23/2021 at 2:19 AM, lidashisb said:

Simplified Chinese translation

simp_chinese.zip 5.26 kB · 1 download

Hey lidashisb, thanks for your translation. In the future, please add a ":1" at the end of each string literal though, thanks!

 

Example:

 

English original:

cc_arousal_threshold_events.1000.tavern.success:0 "Success"

 

Translated:

cc_arousal_threshold_events.1000.tavern.success:1 "成功"