Masochist Tweaks

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

5 hours ago, Yukitemi said:

I wonder if it possible to make a mod that locks all mcm menus when restrained. Or you need to add this feature for every mod one by one..

Would be ideal yea, I don't know of any way to achieve this unfortunately. I wouldn't say anything is impossible but I think if it could be done without extremely hacky methods it would already have been done.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

On 11/16/2020 at 11:56 PM, Storms of Superior said:

I would love to have a Skyrim playthrough with this, but I don't know that I can commit to playing a slave without a proper follower mod that can take over controls and decisions. If I had these things, I could easily commit.

 

Could you give a bit more explanation on this please? These tweaks would work with SLTR for example?

[Storms of Superior]

3 minutes ago, RMCW said:

Could you give a bit more explanation on this please? These tweaks would work with SLTR for example?

Ok ne of our members posted a lengthy blog entry about mod ideas that allow a follower to take the player as a slave in a rather structured way. That would be the way to go if there is to be any hope of getting out of bondage in many cases.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

20 minutes ago, Storms of Superior said:

Ok ne of our members posted a lengthy blog entry about mod ideas that allow a follower to take the player as a slave in a rather structured way. That would be the way to go if there is to be any hope of getting out of bondage in many cases.

Thanks! Generally I use cursed loot with the tweaks and then can find keys to unlock the devices in containers etc. Also with SLS you can steal keys. Sure the keys break sometimes and you need to repair the lock, so you may get stuck in the devices for a long time but that's kind of the point. DFC and Laura's are other ways you could get keys. Not impossible to struggle/lockpick/cut your way out of some devices too.

 

I hear what you are saying about a quest based approach, and it is something I may look into in the future, but that will be a large project. Obviously we already have DFC (Devious Followers) so it would have to be quite different to that. I'll upload a patch for DFC soon, disabling the cheat removal options from that, may suit you for now.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

4 minutes ago, AkiKay said:

Hey RMCW i think the official Devious Devices 5.0 is now out! Patch time ?

 

Haha, already downloading

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

Uploaded for DD 5.0 just now, not had chance to test yet but should be fine.

[dennis102503]

I have a small suggestion for the list of console restrictions. How about Unequipall. It would keep you from unequiping all devices and accessing the Cursed Loot Menus.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

3 hours ago, dennis102503 said:

I have a small suggestion for the list of console restrictions. How about Unequipall. It would keep you from unequiping all devices and accessing the Cursed Loot Menus.

Crafty ?Sure I'll add that one to the list later 

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

8 hours ago, dennis102503 said:

I have a small suggestion for the list of console restrictions. How about Unequipall. It would keep you from unequiping all devices and accessing the Cursed Loot Menus.

Uploading updated v2 now.

[redmond]

Thanks for the tweaks, it's like I don't have the self control to not use those buttons but enough to install your tweaks.
Any chance you would be willing to add a hardcore mode/lock to the MCM of this mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/86763

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

5 minutes ago, redmond said:

Thanks for the tweaks, it's like I don't have the self control to not use those buttons but enough to install your tweaks.
Any chance you would be willing to add a hardcore mode/lock to the MCM of this mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/86763

Yea there is a principle in game design that a player will remove all the fun from the game if you leave the option to do that. Hopefully these tweaks give a new lease of life to the game for some. I certainly can't trust myself not to cheat my way out when particularly frustrated, but ultimately it's a hollow victory.

 

Yea I can add a lock, I don't use that version of the mod so you'll have to check it works for me. I use BakaFactory Bikini Quest mod that has everything packaged in one, including the armor break features. I'll upload a patch for each. Checking just now it looks like the MCM script is pretty much the same between the 2 mods, so if it works for me it will work on your version, but nether the less need to upload 2 versions as Baka's has an extra property.

 

I'll do it now, only take 10 mins.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

17 minutes ago, AkiKay said:

I have a suggestion for when Deviously Cursed Loot 9 comes out. The mod has that option in a menu all the way to the bottom where you can release yourselves from your binds. That could be a good thing to block off. That´s are the one I can´t get myself to stop using / is the last cheat standing ?

Could you not use the hardcore mode option that disables that button and lock mcm when bound option? 

 

I don't mind patching it but didn't see it necessary, perhaps I am wrong though?

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

6 minutes ago, AkiKay said:

Does Baka´s Bikini Quest Mod work with Sexlab Survival ? Last time I tried, the keywords didn´t work and SL Survival failed to recognize them, making the Bikini Curse hate Bikini Armors themselves.

Nah it doesn't unfortunately, I just opted not to use the bikini license for now as I need BHUNP armors.

 

EDIT: That said, Baka's SL aroused mod may fix that, I am not sure, I am yet to test with his latest SLAX edit he released.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

5 minutes ago, AkiKay said:

Alright. Well I haven´t been able to get BHUNP working for a long time now (because im european... ?) so I can´t use The Bikini Mod+Your Patch anyway until it finally works. Baka fixed the CTDs for europeans but the breast physics are not working at all. (Atleast for me)

The setup is a bit confusing. You have to turn on the object on the last page during installation and not equip to head. Also you need to set DD compatible in the MCM menu and switch it on and off and on again. You tried it since he added the MCM menu? There are optional configs he has for full body SMP too which may work for you, that's all I can think to suggest

[redmond]

17 hours ago, RMCW said:

Yea there is a principle in game design that a player will remove all the fun from the game if you leave the option to do that. Hopefully these tweaks give a new lease of life to the game for some. I certainly can't trust myself not to cheat my way out when particularly frustrated, but ultimately it's a hollow victory.

 

Yea I can add a lock, I don't use that version of the mod so you'll have to check it works for me. I use BakaFactory Bikini Quest mod that has everything packaged in one, including the armor break features. I'll upload a patch for each. Checking just now it looks like the MCM script is pretty much the same between the 2 mods, so if it works for me it will work on your version, but nether the less need to upload 2 versions as Baka's has an extra property.

 

I'll do it now, only take 10 mins.

Sweet thank you, I'll try it out tonight. Figured it's pretty simple to do but I know nothing of scripting or coding or whatever.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

11 hours ago, AkiKay said:

Oh I think I finally found why BHUNP wasn´t working for me. Someone posted this on the Nexus page of BHUNP:

 

Ah I'm using a different one, I'll message you it.

[junky1234]

This doesn't seem to have any affect on devious followers. Am I missing something?

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

5 hours ago, junky1234 said:

This doesn't seem to have any affect on devious followers. Am I missing something?

I'll test this later and let you know / update if there is an issue.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

@junky1234 Yeah it is working. It only removed the DD device removal options. You can lock the MCM otherwise from activating HARCORE MODE in the MCM as it is.

 

I noticed the reset option is still there under the Debug options, if that is what you have a problem with? I've uploaded another version as v2 just now with that removed.

 

 

[junky1234]

I have all of the debug options still working :)

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

2 hours ago, junky1234 said:

I have all of the debug options still working

Hmm, no idea ?

 

Check you definitely have the scripts from the tweaks overwriting the base mods versions and that you are using this mod:

 

[Lupine00]

I'm a little puzzled by these modifications.

When I first glanced at it, I thought, "Oh, removes follower dialogs from DF so the follower won't help remove items."

But actually, it just removes the Debug options in the MCM... 

 

I guess if you want to play like that you should enable the DF hardcore mode; a built in feature to cripple the MCM that has no off switch.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

32 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

I guess if you want to play like that you should enable the DF hardcore mode; a built in feature to cripple the MCM that has no off switch.

Hi!

The problem with the hardcore mode alone is that you can still hit the reset button from debug and remove DD through the MCM. I found that if the option is there, I would use it.

 

Without the option, I cannot remove the devices due to frustration with them and this leads to better gameplay, for me at least.

 

All the tweaks here are to this end, to stop the player cheating by removing any options where you could cheat.

 

I hope this makes sense but if you would rather I did not include the tweaks for DF, just let me know, and I can remove them.

 

Edit: And also, thanks for all your work on DF, SLAX and SL Disparity, great mods I always have in my load order.

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, RMCW said:

you can still hit the reset button from debug and remove DD through the MCM

Reset turns off hardcore?

Hmm. That's probably not intended.

 

But I never came across anybody that used the feature until now.

I put it in because people asked for it, but never got any further feedback.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

41 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

Reset turns off hardcore?

Hmm. That's probably not intended.

 

But I never came across anybody that used the feature until now.

I put it in because people asked for it, but never got any further feedback.

No sorry I probably didn't explain that well, the hardcore trigger works perfectly, the reset button doesn't turn hardcore off.

 

It is the reset button itself (plus the DD removal options) that I wanted to remove with the tweaks though. The hardcore option is super useful alongside this. The tweaks would be unnecessary if there was a toggle such as "Also hide debug" next to the hardcore trigger to also remove the Reset button and the DD removal options.

 

I could write that if you can include it in the mod?

 

Many thanks.