thekilled Posted September 27, 2020 Posted September 27, 2020 Hi. Over the past few days I've been experiencing an issue related to getting CTDs when trying to load save files, and would like to request some help pinpointing the cause. I have a heavily modded setup, only about 10 mods short of reaching the 255 limit, however it has been surprisingly stable so far. My recent save has about 82 hours of logged playtime, during which I have experience close to no crashes. A few similar CTDs when loading would disappear on the second load attempt, but it seems my luck ran out. I did update and add a few mods during the lifetime of this save, however nothing recently to these crashes occurring. The problem I have right now is the game CTD'ing about 3 seconds after continuing or loading any save file, including older ones that I had previously loaded from successfully. Starting a new game works perfectly fine, but I still CTD if I try to load a save file after starting a new game. I have tried to clean the save with ReSaver (it was already clean), I cleaned the skse save with NetImmerse Override Cleaner, I have reduced the number of animations and reran FNIS, currently at about 11k, and I have been enabling and disabling the various load CTD fixes in different combinations to see how far it would get me into the loading process, with the same results. All this time I have been using Crash Fixes' UseOSAllocators=1, and now I have tried changing the size of the custom memory block as well to no avail. My enblocal file has expand memory set to false and reduce memory to true. The only thing that helped me was changing UseOSAllocators to 0, which made the CTD go away. With UseOSAllocators disabled, I can load, save, restart and load successfully as long as I don't enable it again. I haven't yet tried to properly play after this change to see if I encounter any other problems. And this is my dilemma, as I have tampered with memory settings on an active save file before, only when starting a new game. Would it be safe for me to attempt to continue playing with changing UseOSAllocators from 1 to 0 mid-save? Or is there something else I should look into doing to attempt and successfully load with UseOSAllocators still enabled? Relevant fixes that I had enabled: Load Game CTD Fix, AnimationLoadingFix 1.0 along with Animation Limit Crash Fix 1.1, Crash Fixes and HDT Physics Extensions Crash Fix 1.5. Also Safety Load after using skse memory patch. Crash Fixes logs are all the same 'Game has crashed with exception address' with the address always being in the 4E/4F zone, most recent one being 0x4F1BEFE3. Minidump from the most recent crash (loading with UseOSAllocators=1) will be attached. I am still looking into how to analyze the minidump myself, using debugging tools for windows I can see errors related to accessing the dlls for hdtPhysicsExtensions and hdtHighHeelNative, my first guess due to them being loaded through MO2. I also see errors related to symbol files for other dlls, including discord's hook. Load order (some esps are disabled, sitting at 245 loaded): Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm Skyrim Supplemental Patch.esp Unique Flowers & Plants.esm Campfire.esm hdtHighHeel.esm CreatureFramework.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm notice board.esp daymoyl.esm EFFCore.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm RaceCompatibility.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp SLSO.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp KJ Tattoos 4K.esp KS Hairdo's.esp RavenWP3.esp RavensWarpaint2.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp WetandCold.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp 3DNPC.esp Immersive Jewelry.esp Blues Skyrim.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp Shout Like a Virgin.esp Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp SkyUI.esp NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp SexLab Confabulation.esp SexLab_DibellaCult.esp zThingsInDark.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp DragonbornInDistress.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp BFT Ships and Carriages.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp Cloaks.esp UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp BikiniMaidenFull.esp CinematicFireFX.esp More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp DBM_MoreInterestingLoot_Patch.esp Frostfall.esp TradeBarter.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp Skyshards.esp DibellasRecruit.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp zzEstrus.esp SimpleSlavery.esp WheelsOfLull.esp SexLab Pheromones.esp AngrimApprentice.esp SOS - Shop.esp DBM_WAFR Patch.esp DBM_CRF_Patch.esp Missives.esp DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp Spellsword.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp The Seven Wonders of Leyenda.esp Naked Dungeons.esp PerkusMaximus_Master.esp PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp SaveHotKeyMCM.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SLALAnimObj.esp SOS Equipable Schlong.esp TheCoenaculiUNP.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp DIVERSITY.esp PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp PerMa Warrior Defluffed.esp PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp Differently Ebony.esp EnchantedArsenal.esp Beards.esp Brows.esp Convenient Horses.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Footprints.esp Jennifer.esp ImmersiveGenderChange.esp SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp SexLab Approach.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp DeadlyDragons.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp HelmetToggle.esp iHUD.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Worlds Dawn.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp FNIS.esp UIExtensions.esp VioLens.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp AchieveThat.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp Realistic-Voice.esp FISS.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp RailLight.esp SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp AMatterOfTime.esp PerMa Mage Defluffed.esp PerMa Thief Defluffed.esp Extended UI.esp SmartCast_1_0.esp SexLabTools.esp TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp RutahTattooPack.esp TMSG.esp TMSG0Z.esp AK_RM_Tattoos_All_In_One.esp wgwarpaint2p0.esp RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp BodyChange.esp SlaveTats.esp Scent of Sex.esp DBM_IA_Patch.esp DBM_RND_Patch.esp HentaiCreatures.esp SpellswordDawnguardDragonborn.esp SLSW Addicted.esp TrueEyes.esp Order My Items.esp Serana.esp Botox.esp 3PCOFull.esp SSAssist_Tools.esp Facelight.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp Real Clouds.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp EFFDialogue.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp SexLabUtil1.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp SexLab Strapon.esp SkyTweak.esp SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp StrangeRunes.esp RRTattoos.esp SexLabDirtyTalk.esp Vivid Landscapes.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp Skyrim 2017 TPTC - Parallax Maps.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp PerMa Headless.esp Predator Vision.esp SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp AddItemMenuLE.esp nhaSimpleSexing.esp IJPerkusWintermystPatch.esp DBM_ImmersiveJewelry_Addon.esp Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp SLAdventures.esp EstrusChaurus.esp Spank That Ass.esp Tongues.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-5.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_NL4.esp NoOverpenetration.esp C5Kev's Herme Mora Priestess UUNP.esp SLAnimSpeed.esp SexLabAddActor.esp Apropos2.esp PSQTweaks.esp SexLab UtilityPlus.esp SuccubusRaceLite.esp SCS_RacePatch_Succubus.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SexLab Confabulation - Solutions Patch.esp DiD - DLC Patch.esp SMEssentialPlayer.esp SMEssentialPlayerDawnGuard.esp Naked Dungeons_Patched.esp PsycheAnimationObjects.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp AOS.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp AOS2_DD Patch.esp AOS2_EBT Patch.esp AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp Immersive Citizens - ELFXHardcore patch.esp DBM_AOS_Patch.esp Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp PatchusMaximus.esp So yeah, if anyone has any suggestion on what else I could try, or if I need to provide anything else to clarify the situation, please let me know. Thank you for your time 2020-09-27_13.24.13.dmp Papyrus.0.log
Andy14 Posted September 27, 2020 Posted September 27, 2020 I'm not sure if Legacy of the Dragonborn, along with the rest of the mods, is a good choice. Basically, mods are written on the basis of vanilla - but if the basis changes fundamentally ...
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