[Question] How do Flower Girls work?

[assassin394]

Hello. I just recently install Flower Girls mod but I have no ideas how it work. 

I always use Sexlab but one follower mod I want to try have it as hard requirement. After I install it there is a Seduction dialogue appear when I talking with my follower and some NPC. After I select it there is no additional dialogue, no MCM menu, nothing. So how do you start a scene use Flower Girls? 

Another question is I still have SL installed , will it cause any conflict? Also does anyone how many animation FG have? I have a lot of SL animation installed and I don't want to overload FNIS. There is no error when I run FNIS, no crash or anything but the number of animations is over 10k right now.

[anjenthedog]

You have to have Lover status (relationshipRank = 4) to initiate a FlowerGirls sex scene (afaik)

 

You have to have either Friend or Confidant status to be able to kiss them (I don't recall what their values are)

 

You can adjust that rank directly using console commands or using a variety of mods that allow setting relationship rank

 

Or you can use the normal means which afaik (unless this is part of Amorous adventures, not sure any more) 

 

1) express interest in the NPC (some will respond snarkily, others will be flattered... either way, go to step 2)

2) give a ****gift of tribute (shiny gold and silver jewelry items are obvious choices.... some NPCs have favored things that will boost the effect)

3) a while later, after you and your companion have experienced some time and battle, you'll be presented with the ****option to present another gift of tribute. Do it to continue the process. Repeat and rinse... These queries will be presented when the game thinks you've ?progressed?" enough. 

 

 - I have something for you. It's not much, but...

 

After each gift, you'll get a boost in your relationship, at least presuming you're generous. I generally have a lot of jeweled gold and silver items that just end up piling up in my inventory anyway...

 

Eventually, you'll see a new entry in your dialog list, "kiss <insert follower/NPC name>" or something like that.

 

And eventually a notice message will note that you're now lovers. Now you can initiate a Flower Girls scene

 

opinion: it takes a little while, but if you wander on foot with your companion instead of fast traveling everywhere or using wagons, it only takes an evening of play (or less) to get things set and be "immersive" while doing it. I'd recommend doing it the "hard way" at least once (just not with Lydia.... she's overbearing  ) 

[assassin394]

Thank you very much for the info. I like it to be immersive and all but I want to test the FG sex scene first to see how its like and if it does even work at all.  Like I said this is my first time and I don't know how it all work. Can you advanced stage, switch animation like in SL with SL tool or it use a UI interface like Osex? I don't want to waste hour playing to increase relationship and then find out the mod doesn't even work.

[Alessia Wellington]

You can turn off the seduction system. That's what I do every time. As for advancing stages and such, nope, you can't. I'd highly recommend you grab the animation selector by Erstam https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/36484 to select what animation should be played. By default, FG chooses animations at random.

[assassin394]

12 hours ago, Alessia Wellington said:

You can turn off the seduction system. That's what I do every time. As for advancing stages and such, nope, you can't. I'd highly recommend you grab the animation selector by Erstam https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/36484 to select what animation should be played. By default, FG chooses animations at random.

How do you turn off the seduction system?

[Alessia Wellington]

3 hours ago, assassin394 said:

How do you turn off the seduction system?

 

Go into FG's MCM. Under Main Options you'll find the menu Seduction. Remove the checkmark from Enable seduction.

[assassin394]

Thanks again. Everything seem to working fine but I have another problem . My character get stuck after the animation end. I can't move or open menu and do anything. 

[Alessia Wellington]

Did you use tfc during the animation to move the camera freely? If so, type epc into the console.

[anjenthedog]

The latest FG seems to employ TM for some reason during the animation. I noticed this after I updated the version about a month ago.

 

TM hides the entire UI.

 

To fix (workaround) on a one time basis,

1. enter console mode (press the tilde key)
2. type "TM",
3. hit return (enter)
4. exit console mode (hit the tilde key again)

 

Your UI should once again show up.

 

[SamoaSUMSUM]

How does the subdue part work i dont see where to start or begin a scene of it

[anjenthedog]

On 10/24/2020 at 7:18 PM, SamoaSUMSUM said:

How does the subdue part work i dont see where to start or begin a scene of it

There is no subduing a  sexual partner in Flower Girls. Flower girls is a "friendly" mod, ie, the entirety of its "being" is strictly consensual.

edit: I stand corrected.

 

edit: Normally....

Once you have achieved privilege (see above for an explanation), you will have 1 or 2 new options in your dialogue chain with an affected NPC/follower

1. (Kiss her) or (Kiss him) depending on the gender of the partner
2. My darling, care for some attention?

#2 has a submenu of options pertaining to what kind of sex is involved, which you'll have to investigate on your own.

[Alessia Wellington]

12 hours ago, SamoaSUMSUM said:

How does the subdue part work i dont see where to start or begin a scene of it

 

Subdue only works if you have the BDSM module and activated the Subdue perk from your powers menu. Once the perk's acquired, you can use it on sleeping targets, enemies in bleed-out and unsuspecting targets when sneaking. Simply press E, or whatever button you have for activating, and the subdue menu will open.

[Digitalwolff]

On 8/24/2020 at 12:12 PM, Alessia Wellington said:

 

Go into FG's MCM. Under Main Options you'll find the menu Seduction. Remove the checkmark from Enable seduction.

I don't know if it's a different version, but in game there is no MCM for Flower Girls on my set-up, 2021.

[Alessia Wellington]

16 minutes ago, Digitalwolff said:

I don't know if it's a different version, but in game there is no MCM for Flower Girls on my set-up, 2021.

 

Hm. Do you have the Flower Girls Options in your magic menu? It should show up under the Powers tab.

[anjenthedog]

1 hour ago, Digitalwolff said:

I don't know if it's a different version, but in game there is no MCM for Flower Girls on my set-up, 2021.

There should be. There's one in my game. If you *just installed it, it might be one of those mods that takes a while for the MCM to show up (rare but it happens... it's been so long that I'm afraid I can't comment on whether I experienced delayed display of the MCM or not), or you have some load or mod contention preventing it from fully loading. 

 

I just checked my load contentions and found no instance of flowergirls in it, (Vortex) so I suspect that it's not one that generally contends with other mods, if that helps, or at least reduces the degrees of freedom in your search for the culprit.  That's not to say that you *don't have one, just that mine doesn't. you'll have to check your own mod contentions to be positive (Vortex, "Manage Rules" button under the main menu for the Mods tab, for MO2 I think by using LOOT, but am not sure)

 

One thing you might try before doing anything more drastic is to open the game and your current savefile, create a new manual save wherever you are (ie instead of an autosave), close the game, reload the game, reload the new save, and see if it kicks in. Sometimes that boots a sluggish MCM. Some actually require it, or at least they say they do (I don't recall specifically, but there have been a few I've installed that do/did)

Which version are you running? I use FlowerGirls SE and VR Main file. If that's the one, (or in general, for any mod) make sure its requirements (dependencies) are fulfilled prior to installing it. For the one I use, XPMSSE and FNIS (SE Version) are required.

 

Finally, are you positive you installed an SE compliant version? LE mods don't generally play nice with SkyrimSE, even on those rare occasions when the game actually loads with them installed. 

 

[Digitalwolff]

I'm level 30 now. I have 3 followers, and others that I "parked" at my player home. I can still do the bedroom stuff, seduction spell, etc so I guess I don't need the MCM for anything thus far. 

Yeah, it's the VR main file version for SE.

Thanks for all your suggestions, tips and your time.

[Digitalwolff]

On 3/4/2021 at 8:56 PM, Alessia Wellington said:

 

Hm. Do you have the Flower Girls Options in your magic menu? It should show up under the Powers tab.

Yes. The Seduction/Bewitched spells are there.

[Alessia Wellington]

6 hours ago, Digitalwolff said:

Yes. The Seduction/Bewitched spells are there.

 

Okay. So Flower Girls is working. Do your other mods that are supposed to have an MCM show up in the list?

[KonradSimon]

I'd like to seduce the Dark Brotherhood initiate, but the option to start seduction isn't there. Can I use a console command to set the faction so that seduction can start? If so, what would the faction be?

[anjenthedog]

20 hours ago, KonradSimon said:

I'd like to seduce the Dark Brotherhood initiate, but the option to start seduction isn't there. Can I use a console command to set the faction so that seduction can start? If so, what would the faction be?

Some utilities, like The Manipulator, will allow you to change the "marriageable" option for a target NPC, that afaik is required for FG dialogs to engage.

[KonradSimon]

9 hours ago, anjenthedog said:

Some utilities, like The Manipulator, will allow you to change the "marriageable" option for a target NPC, that afaik is required for FG dialogs to engage.

 

Thank you!

[KonradSimon]

So, turns out setting the "marriageable" option does not trigger the FG dialogs--or, at least, doesn't for the DB Initiate or Serana. Anyone know what to set in order to trigger them?

[anjenthedog]

5 hours ago, KonradSimon said:

So, turns out setting the "marriageable" option does not trigger the FG dialogs--or, at least, doesn't for the DB Initiate or Serana. Anyone know what to set in order to trigger them?

Ok, I'm not an expert or anything, so please take this all with a grain of salt.

 

Can't say for the Dibellan initiate, but regarding Serana, since unlike the generic or even most followers, she's a special case of NPC that has her own "follower framework", (like Sofia or (I think) Recorder, or (I think) Rigmor of Bruma)  it may require more than simple switch banging to get her attention.  She has been warm from the beginning in some vectors, and cold as ice, depending on the sequence of events and what I've said to her (for instance, pushing the idea of becoming human too often and too soon, well I can attest to it making her less approachable from one game vector. And it affects the speed at which FG stuff appeared ) 

 

In answer to the general question, part of what triggers them seems to be  time spent together traveling and battling.

 

And sometimes it seems to pop up almost instantly with some characters (You get a dialog choice of "my but you're a fair young thing" or something to that effect right for the first time you speak with them, and she'll respond with "golly gee I'm flattered", "thanks, nice to know someone thinks I'm hawt for more than my body", "We should spend some time together you and I", "Oh rilly now, or do you just wanna get my pants and do the dirty?", etc depending on the type of character, << I'm paraphrasing on all of these, but hopefully you get my drift). After that exchange, a new dialog will appear for you and the NPC that says "I have something for you., it's not much...."

 

There are also male comebacks for your comeon like "You've done well", although I have little experience on that side of the equation. so that's the only one I'm aware of.

 

BUT... other times it can take some effort to get the dialog going. And some NPCs can be started, but the next time you see them, they've reset... (So I'd be inclined to stick with only named characters and use some other method like Eager NPCs to initiate "relations" with generic NPC types)

 

Once you see that gift-giving dialog option, it's begun. But once you've given them the first gift, it will take some time  together before it progresses to the next gift-giving dialog, and  it will continue to "hold" in-between bump-ups in relationship each time you give a new gift. Some special gifts (as viewed by the NPC) can make that rise quicker...for instance, one of my followers has a favorite food. Giving her a few of those with each gift (both females and males respond favorably to jewelry, although other items may take their place in some cases... jewelry is just an easy "goto") made the process quicker. 

 

Not sure why I was able to with Serana (pretty early into the Dawnguard stuff) but my speech skills were already pretty high, so that *might play into things, idk. 

 

AFAIK, making them marriageable is only part of the puzzle. 

[KonradSimon]

Cool. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Yeah, I think the Dark Brotherhood Initiate is sort of a special case, and might not have enough of the hooks to allow those dialog options to trigger. A shame, because she's one of very few followers who will level with the Dragonborn indefinitely (and, yaknow, her ass looks really fine in that shrouded armor). But I'm starting to think that it's a lost cause. There's a mod that expands the two Dark Brotherhood initiates with background and a bit more stuff, but even with that I never reached the point where the FG dialog options started. Oh, well.

 

Again, thanks much for taking the trouble to reply.