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I'm really at my wits end. I created a new mod setup, and carefully installed mods and manually looking and solving conflicts in SSEEdit. But now I'm getting RANDOM CTD on cell transition, mostly when going through doors. I have ENBoost, Crash Fixes, Bethini Optimized Ini, and NetScriptFramework. I have 407 plugin and 184 are ESL. I have also enabled "Use OS Allocators" which fix my ILS. I've been playing for more than a month and I manage to most of my CTD, except this. The manually disabling of mods approach won't work since this is very random, it'll take forever with that. The CTD happens at random times, there's no specific place, and if I load my game again it won't crash anymore for a while.

NetScriptFramework is the most helpful since it at least point me which is causing CTD. But the current logs are not showing anything I can understand.

 

This is the log that appears in most of the time. https://pastebin.com/qFQdtvvR

Now when I disable autosave on travel, there are times when it gives me this. https://pastebin.com/yyEbq4Z6

Papyrus Log don't show anything helpful and mostly end at the log where I save, before going through doors. But here it is.

 

I don't use Bash Patch and only smash patch, because I think resolving conflict manually is enough. Tell me if I'm wrong. I don't get any blackface bug with this, and the only wrong thing I did is patching navmesh manually which I already remove. My total references are around 700k.

 

Please help, because I kinda like my current setup, there shouldn't be CTD by conflict as I mostly go through each mod in SSEEdit. I did my research but no result. I hope I'm not breaking any rules here. Thank you in advance for the help.

 

My load order.



  [00] Skyrim.esm
  [01] Update.esm
  [02] Dawnguard.esm
  [03] HearthFires.esm
  [04] Dragonborn.esm
  [05] Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
  [06] Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  [07] Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
  [08] MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
  [09] EFFCore.esm
  [0A] 3DNPC.esp
  [0B] Forgotten DungeonsSSE.esm
  [0C] KS Hairdo's.esp
  [0D] FISS.esp
  [0E] AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
  [0F] SMSkyrim.esp
  [10] arnima.esm
  [11] FlowerGirls SE.esm
  [12] HammetDungeons.esm
  [13] Vigilant.esm
  [14] Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
  [15] DynDOLOD.esm
  [16] SkyUI_SE.esp
  [17] NorthernGrass.esp
  [18] SkyrimIsWindy.esp
  [19] Enhanced Vanilla Trees SSE.esp
  [1A] Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
  [1B] Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp
  [1C] SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
  [1D] Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
  [1E] NSUTR_improvements.esp
  [1F] FlowerFields.esp
  [20] EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
  [21] Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
  [22] Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
  [23] Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
  [24] Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
  [25] Cutting Room Floor.esp
  [26] CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
  [27] JKs Skyrim.esp
  [28] Better Dynamic Snow.esp
  [29] Cathedral Landscapes.esp
  [2A] VioLens SE.esp
  [2B] TorchesCastShadows.esp
  [2C] RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp
  [2D] RaceMenu.esp
  [2E] RaceMenuPlugin.esp
  [2F] Grand Admiral Thrawn - Skyrim.esp
  [30] Invasion of Skyrim.esp
  [31] AI Overhaul.esp
  [32] Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
  [33] SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
  [34] Vominheim.esp
  [35] Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp
  [36] MysticismMagic.esp
  [37] Helgen Reborn.esp
  [38] Unique Flowers & Plants.esp
  [39] morthal.esp
  [3A] JK's Skyrim - Morthal II Patch.esp
  [3B] High Level Enemies.esp
  [3C] RelicsofHyruleDragonborn.esp
  [3D] DwemerColosseum.esp
  [3E] Settlements Expanded SE.esp
  [3F] MFF_SaveData.esp
  [40] dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
  [41] Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
  [42] UltimateCombat.esp
  [43] FNISSexyMove.esp
  [44] MikanEyes All in one SE.esp
  [45] Brows.esp
  [46] SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
  [47] ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
  [48] WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
  [49] High Level Enemies - SIC SE Edition.esp
  [4A] High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
  [4B] High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
  [4C] Realm of Lorkhan - Custom Alternate Start - Choose your own adventure.esp
  [4D] moonpath.esp
  [4E] JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp
  [4F] CRF - Lighting Overhaul.esp
  [50] Cathedral Weathers.esp
  [51] JawZ_Weathers CW.esp
  [52] ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
  [53] DarkerNights-ObsidianInCathedral.esp
  [54] SOTGenesisMod.esp
  [55] Vindsvept_music_se_wov.esp
  [56] YunDao_Hdt_Hair.esp
  [57] Immersive Encounters.esp
  [58] BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp
  [59] SkyrimSewers.esp
  [5A] The Brotherhood of Old.esp
  [5B] JKs Skyrim_No Snow Under the Roof_Patch.esp
  [5C] Moonpath Navmesh Fix.esp
  [5D] Arcanum.esp
  [5E] Morning Fogs SSE.esp
  [5F] Run For Your Lives.esp
  [60] Cloaks.esp
  [61] TKAA.esp
  [62] MFF_ThrallSpell.esp
  [63] mihaillegion.esp
  [64] Clockwork.esp
  [65] Immersive Patrols II.esp
  [66] The Ordinary Women.esp
  [67] PAN_NPCs_DG.esp
  [68] SeranaDialogAddon.esp
  [69] Cloaks&Capes.esp
  [6A] male npc overahul se.esp
  [6B] XPMSE.esp
  [6C] FNIS.esp
  [6D] CBBE.esp
  [6E] RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
  [6F] 12FemaleBrows.esp
  [70] UIExtensions.esp
  [71] IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
  [72] RaceMenuHH.esp
  [73] WondersofWeather.esp
  [74] DetectLever.esp
  [75] Stinger.esp
  [76] EoGeom.esp
  [77] Tempest SE_.esp
  [78] DeadlyDragons.esp
  [79] Colorful_Magic_SE.esp
  [7A] Leafeater's trees for JK's.esp
  [7B] AgentOfRighteousMight.esp
  [7C] Agent of Righteous Might - Chapel + Fixes.esp
  [7D] Landscape For Grass Mods JK'S Skyrim.esp
  [7E] LostGrimoire.esp
  [7F] EFFDialogue.esp
  [80] xamnant.esp
  [81] Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
  [82] LIAT - NPCs.esp
  [83] Tools of Kagrenac.esp
  [84] NewArmoury.esp
  [85] MiyapsDungeon.esp
  [86] Bells of Skyrim.esp
  [87] Invasion of Skyrim - Relics of Hyrule Addon.esp
  [88] Phenderix Magic World.esp
  [89] Mysticism.esp
  [8A] ssapbwk.esp
  [8B] mihailsamaria.esp
  [8C] The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
  [8D] Darkend.esp
  [8E] Settlements Expanded SE - No Snow Under the Roof Patch.esp
  [8F] Dreamborne Islands.esp
  [90] DarkEnvoy.esp
  [91] ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
  [92] Summermyst - WACCF Patch.esp
  [93] Moonpath Music - Sky and Lighting fix - merged.esp
  [94] AMatterOfTime.esp
  [95] SkyCompleteLegendary.esp
  [96] MyraTheTaffyDragon.esp
  [97] Toccata as Elisif.esp
  [98] Locational Damage.esp
  [99] Critical Hit.esp
  [9A] Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
  [9B] dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
  [9C] P1FlyingRing.esp
  [9D] Obis Relevel.esp
  [9E] HitStop.esp
  [9F] Genesis Surface Spawns.esp
  [A0] Animated Featherd wings.esp
  [A1] WetandCold.esp
  [A2] LadyLaceCloaks_EN.esp
  [A3] Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
  [A4] [full_inu] Lord Nicholas Armor.esp
  [A5] MBO Pack  by Team TAL.esp
  [A6] Witcher 3 Yennefer and Ciri armor SE.esp
  [A7] [Kirax] Project Vindictus Vol.1 Remastered.esp
  [A8] Teach Followers Spells.esp
  [A9] EnchantmentSwapper.esp
  [AA] QuickLight.esp
  [AB] Dark Envoy.esp
  [AC] Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
  [AD] ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
  [AE] The_Sinister_Seven.esp
  [AF] INFERNAL FLAME.esp
  [B0] GenSurfSICPatch.esp
  [B1] iHUD.esp
  [B2] PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
  [B3] PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
  [B4] StrangeRunes.esp
  [B5] AddItemMenuSE.esp
  [B6] DM BDOR Pack by Team TAL.esp
  [B7] TKDodge.esp
  [B8] Serio's Cycle Hotkeys.esp
  [B9] DS3 Weapon Pack.esp
  [BA] DS3 Weapon Pack New Armoury Patch.esp
  [BB] SwingsFF15WP.esp
  [BC] CiceroFemaleSE.esp
  [BD] _ImoMegane.esp
  [BE] SmoothCam.esp
  [BF] Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
  [C0] DragonAgeSpells.esp
  [C1] ShadowSpellPackage.esp
  [C2] SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp
  [C3] FlowerGirls SE - Maids II Deception.esp
  [C4] SimplyKnock.esp
  [C5] WeaponMerge.esp
  [C6] UltimateCombatSekiro.esp
  [C7] DBDGBoss.esp
  [C8] Astral.esp
  [C9] TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
  [CA] Golden Rings Of Craft.esp
  [CB] Spellshaping.esp
  [CC] SpellshapingApocalypse.esp
  [CD] WeaponArts.esp
  [CE] SwordplayFinishers.esp
  [CF] Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp
  [D0] Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
  [D1] Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
  [D2] Forgotten Magic - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
  [D3] Multiple Enchantments - Ordinator Patch.esp
  [D4] Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
  [D5] dragonatmidnighttweaks.esp
  [D6] ELFXEnhancer.esp
  [D7] ENB Light.esp
  [D8] RealisticWaterTwo.esp
  [D9] Bijin_AIO-SV 2018.esp
  [DA] Bijin_Frea-Iona.esp
  [DB] Seventhtales Master Patch.esp
  [DC] Smashed Patch 0.esp
  [DD] Smashed Patch 1.esp
  [DE] DynDOLOD.esp
  [FE 000] Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl
  [FE 001] hdtHighHeel.esm
  [FE 002] RASS - Visual Effects.esl
  [FE 003] UnreadBooksGlow.esl
  [FE 004] AHZmoreHUD.esl
  [FE 005] WM_WidgetMod.esl
  [FE 006] EquipmentStateCopy&Rename.esl
  [FE 007] ___BlockAngleFix.esl
  [FE 008] VGLKnights.esl
  [FE 009] SkyrimIsWindy - EVT patch.esp
  [FE 00A] BugfixCompilation.esp
  [FE 00B] Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim SE - MCM versionPatch.esp
  [FE 00C] Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp
  [FE 00D] NSUTR_bugfixes.esp
  [FE 00E] NSUTR_groundsnow_mesh_fixes.esp
  [FE 00F] MajesticMountains.esp
  [FE 010] NorthernCathedralGrass.esp
  [FE 011] Better Dynamic Snow - NSUTR Patch.esp
  [FE 012] FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp
  [FE 013] Beyond Reach - Delayed Quest Start.esp
  [FE 014] Beyond Reach - Shields and Cloaks.esp
  [FE 015] Beyond Reach - Temper Recipes.esp
  [FE 016] Better_Dynamic_Snow_Arnima.esp
  [FE 017] DustEffectsSSE.esp
  [FE 018] CWIBDSPatch.esp
  [FE 019] ELFX Fixes.esp
  [FE 01A] dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
  [FE 01B] dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
  [FE 01C] dD-Short Script Range.esp
  [FE 01D] 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
  [FE 01E] KSHairdosSMP.esp
  [FE 01F] HHairstyles wigs.esp
  [FE 020] KSWigsSMP.esp
  [FE 021] CWIEnLFXSEPatch.esp
  [FE 022] JK's Dragonsreach.esp
  [FE 023] CathedralWeathersSeasons.esp
  [FE 024] Beyond Reach - Skyrim Border Tweak.esp
  [FE 025] Cathedral Diverse Seasons JawZ SoS.esp
  [FE 026] SoS_Cathedral_Patch.esp
  [FE 027] Obsidian In Cathedral.esp
  [FE 028] CathedralWeatherMCM.esp
  [FE 029] JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp
  [FE 02A] SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp
  [FE 02B] WNB_WeatheredNordicBodypaints.esp
  [FE 02C] EEO CRF patch.esp
  [FE 02D] JK's Skyrim - Riverwood Lite.esp
  [FE 02E] Blowing in the Wind - JKs Skyrim Patch.esp
  [FE 02F] CG4 Visual_Trees&Bushes.esp
  [FE 030] JK's The Bannered Mare.esp
  [FE 031] Immersive Patrols II Simplified.esp
  [FE 032] Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp
  [FE 033] Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp
  [FE 034] AI Overhaul - PAN_NPCs_DG Patch.esp
  [FE 035] StojaMakeupPack.esp
  [FE 036] JK's Warmaiden's.esp
  [FE 037] JK's Warmaiden's ELFX patch.esp
  [FE 038] CWICRFSEPatch.esp
  [FE 039] ai overhaul patch.esp
  [FE 03A] FGAnimationSelector.esp
  [FE 03B] ACE_EtherealElvenOverhaul_Patch.esp
  [FE 03C] StormLightning.esp
  [FE 03D] Cutting Room Floor - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
  [FE 03E] Immersive College of Winterhold - Typo Patch.esp
  [FE 03F] Interesting NPCs - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
  [FE 040] JKs Skyrim - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
  [FE 041] SkyTEST - WeirdChamp Animals Fix.esp
  [FE 042] WACCF - CRF Consistency Patch.esp
  [FE 043] WACCF and ACE - USSEP Arch-Mage Consistency Patch.esp
  [FE 044] 3DNPC0.esp
  [FE 045] 3DNPC TKAA Patch.esp
  [FE 046] JK's The Bannered Mare ELFX patch..esp
  [FE 047] RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
  [FE 048] JK's The Bannered Mare SPO Patch.esp
  [FE 049] Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
  [FE 04A] JKs Skyrim_Clockwork_Patch.esp
  [FE 04B] Helgen Reborn - USSEP Patch.esp
  [FE 04C] Settlements Expanded SE - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp
  [FE 04D] JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp
  [FE 04E] Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp
  [FE 04F] No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp
  [FE 050] Bells of Skyrim - JKs Skyrim Patch.esp
  [FE 051] JKs The Drunken Huntsman.esp
  [FE 052] 3DNPC - CRF Patch.esp
  [FE 053] mihaildwarvenmagetta.esp
  [FE 054] SMSkyrim - 3DNPC Patch.esp
  [FE 055] mihailoldgod.esp
  [FE 056] CWISPOPatchSE.esp
  [FE 057] 3DNPC - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
  [FE 058] Kai_3DNPC-WACCF_Patch.esp
  [FE 059] 3DNPCEFF.esp
  [FE 05A] AnimatedArmoryVigilantPatchESM.esp
  [FE 05B] Vigilant Outfits.esp
  [FE 05C] StendarrReplacer.esp
  [FE 05D] Agent of Righteous Might - Typo Fix.esp
  [FE 05E] Agent of Righteous Might - Easier Lighting Fires.esp
  [FE 05F] YeOlde - MCM Settings.esp
  [FE 060] 3SwingAttacks.esp
  [FE 061] Mortal Enemies Patch.esp
  [FE 062] Proper Aiming.esp
  [FE 063] Apachii DE Integration Patch.esp
  [FE 064] mno icow patch.esp
  [FE 065] BB Pack by Team TAL.esp
  [FE 066] Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp
  [FE 067] DM BDOR Orthodox.esp
  [FE 068] Skyrim Sewers - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
  [FE 069] Qw_WACCF_arnima Patch.esp
  [FE 06A] Use Special Markers.esp
  [FE 06B] SmartCast_1_0.esp
  [FE 06C] Pouncer.esp
  [FE 06D] ExperienceMultipliers.esp
  [FE 06E] AddPerkPoints.esp
  [FE 06F] RU_MNO_CRFPatch.esp
  [FE 070] RU_VampireAmuletFix.esp
  [FE 071] Amon AI Overhaul 1.5.2 PAN DG Patch.esp
  [FE 072] Qw_PANNPCsDG_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
  [FE 073] Amon - AI Overhaul 1.5.2 3DNPC Patch.esp
  [FE 074] Skyrim Underground - USSEP Patch.esp
  [FE 075] ForgottenMagic_Redone_fixCTD.esp
  [FE 076] Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp
  [FE 077] Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
  [FE 078] Qw_ACE_CloaksOfSkyrim Patch.esp
  [FE 079] Qw_ACE_CloaksAndCapes Patch.esp
  [FE 07A] Qw_CloaksAndCapes_CRF Patch.esp
  [FE 07B] RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
  [FE 07C] Cutting Room Floor - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp
  [FE 07D] Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - Hoth Patch.esp
  [FE 07E] Qw_BeyondReach_RDO Patch.esp
  [FE 07F] Amon - AI Overhaul 1.5.2 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp
  [FE 080] Qw_ACE_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures Patch.esp
  [FE 081] Summermyst - SIC patch.esp
  [FE 082] Carry Weight x100.esp
  [FE 083] Bells of Skyrim - Reduced Volume.esp
  [FE 084] AnimatedArmoryROH-ESL.esp
  [FE 085] IoS Addon - Enslaved Giants.esp
  [FE 086] Cuyima 3DNPC - Redone.esp
  [FE 087] BDS - MM Patch.esp
  [FE 088] Settlements Expanded SE TKAA Patch.esp
  [FE 089] Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp
  [FE 08A] Immersive Encounters TKAA Patch.esp
  [FE 08B] TBoO & SS Patch.esp
  [FE 08C] Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
  [FE 08D] ImmersiveAnimatedLooting.esp
  [FE 08E] Botox SE.esp
  [FE 08F] Botox SE - CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
  [FE 090] Botox SE - Cutting Room Floor.esp
  [FE 091] Botox SE - Flower Girls.esp
  [FE 092] Botox SE - Helgen Reborn.esp
  [FE 093] Botox SE - Immersive Encounters.esp
  [FE 094] Botox SE - Immersive Patrols II.esp
  [FE 095] Botox SE - Interesting NPCs.esp
  [FE 096] Botox SE - Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
  [FE 097] Cathedral Weather Godrays.esp
  [FE 098] CW - CG4LensFX.esp
  [FE 099] NightEyeENBFix.esp
  [FE 09A] Better Face Lighting.esp
  [FE 09B] SMSkyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
  [FE 09C] Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp
  [FE 09D] Qw_RusticSoulgemsSorted_ISC Patch.esp
  [FE 09E] Qw_WACCF_ISC Patch.esp
  [FE 09F] ZIA_WACCF_Patch.esp
  [FE 0A0] BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
  [FE 0A1] OutfitMerge3.esp
  [FE 0A2] Qw_3DNPC_TheOrdinaryWomen Patch.esp
  [FE 0A3] Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
  [FE 0A4] GoToBed.esp
  [FE 0A5] Simply Rest Anywhere.esp
  [FE 0A6] CombatMusicSet.esp
  [FE 0A7] ArrowBlock.esp
  [FE 0A8] DashBomb.esp
  [FE 0A9] No Snow Under the Roof - Interesting NPC patch.esp
  [FE 0AA] JK's Skyrim - Falkreath Corrections.esp
  [FE 0AB] RapidSlash SE.esp
  [FE 0AC] BerserkStyle.esp
  [FE 0AD] CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp
  [FE 0AE] Ordinator_WACCF_Patch.esp
  [FE 0AF] SoS_ELFX+Enhancer_Patch.esp
  [FE 0B0] RealisticWaterTwo - ELFX Enhancer Patch.esp
  [FE 0B1] RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
  [FE 0B2] JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp
  [FE 0B3] SMSkyrim - Realistic Water Two Patch.esp
  [FE 0B4] Realistic Water Two - Landscape For Grass Mods Patch.esp
  [FE 0B5] RealisticWaterTwo - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
  [FE 0B6] RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Reach.esp

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I know it can be hard letting some mods go, but you most likely just have way too many mods.
Especially for Skyrim Special Edition.

 

Edit: I'm also pretty positive these should be closest to the top of your load order
Probably even first

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  1. [6B] XPMSE.esp
  2.   [6C] FNIS.esp

They come first in mine 
I use LOOT for load order sorting

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9 hours ago, xXDeliteXx said:

I know it can be hard letting some mods go, but you most likely just have way too many mods.
Especially for Skyrim Special Edition.

 

Edit: I'm also pretty positive these should be closest to the top of your load order
Probably even first

They come first in mine 
I use LOOT for load order sorting

Does merging mods can help? I'll try to move XPMSE and FNIS, considering the second log shows skeleton, I hope that would solve it. Thanks

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18 minutes ago, seventhtale said:

Does merging mods can help? I'll try to move XPMSE and FNIS, considering the second log shows skeleton, I hope that would solve it. Thanks

Merging can help in some cases, yes. but make sure your sort the load order and then merge accordingly.

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Moving XPSME and FNIS near the start of my load order didn't stop the CTD. Now, I started a new game and after two hours didn't experience a CTD, aside one on character creation when selecting a certain head shape for high elf, but that one is tolerable as I don't really play as one. I'll try to continue playing this new game tomorrow and hope it won't crash. Though I am wondering, if by any chance that it didn't CTD anymore, does the CTD's are cause by script error? Though I remove some mods, afaik they are minor mods.

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