donttouchmethere Posted June 17, 2020 Posted June 17, 2020 I can't resist I have to throw some things in too. ? Blame @Grey Cloud for that ? On 6/15/2020 at 3:38 AM, stifftailx said: I installed zap and zaz One only installs ZAP! What did you do ? On 6/13/2020 at 12:03 PM, shortiron said: SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabWerewolves.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabWerewolvesMB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp Holy fuuu! You use Horney creatures! To use Horny creatures - without killing your game - MNC SLAL needs to be installed correctly in LO sequence and requirements. Installing SexLabNudeCreature in combination with MNC SLAL and Horney Creatures (+addons) is like you just don't want to have a working game. Also check if you have newest Jcontainers and don't let it be overwritten On 6/13/2020 at 12:03 PM, shortiron said: FNIS_PCEA2.esp FNISspells.esp XPMSE.esp are at the wrong spot in LO for MNC SLAL, check MNC SLAL page again for LO suggestion. MNC needs to overwrite XPMSE (not only via position in LO) On 6/13/2020 at 12:03 PM, shortiron said: UltimateCombat.esp UltimateCombatSekiro.esp You use multiple combat overhauls. This alone can break your game if not patched/sorted right in LO. Better to check if they even work together as intended or you just add another layer of possible issues. In addition be careful with mods that want to overwrite FNIS like TKdodge and Ultimate Combat if you also have other mods that relay on the same FNIS files. Basically I just repeat here what Grey Cloud already said: "Don't install to many unkown mods at once" I would add: "don't install too many mods that modify the same area of the game and add more similar mods only after you know that the first installed ones work." Reason: Troubleshooting gets really hard. On 6/13/2020 at 12:03 PM, shortiron said: SL Survival.esp Make sure you installed PapyrusUtil 3.3 and don't let it be overwritten On 6/13/2020 at 12:03 PM, shortiron said: Sneak Tools.esp will conflict with any mod you installed that effect fire and skills/perks. Basically it can make your game in-stable all on itself. On 6/13/2020 at 12:03 PM, shortiron said: BDVanillaCritters.esp Double check if it is even needed anymore. I doubt it and it might conflict with MNC SLAL v12+ On 6/13/2020 at 12:03 PM, shortiron said: Immersive Monster Girls.esp I recommend not to overwrite MNC SLAL Also you have a lot of little mods that would need some testing if they work as intended. Also careful with older mods and requirements (your dragon overhaul needs for example brawl bugs patch, but there is a modern brawl bugs patch out for a while, wich you are also missing ?)
stifftailx Posted June 17, 2020 Author Posted June 17, 2020 7 hours ago, DUBALADO said: Don't get me wrong, I'm not judging you, it's more I agree. The point is, you have to strike a balance between the game and the mods. The game should never stop working, yes... I know it sounds obvious... but the mods are installed and tested one by one, Backup, keep testing ... backup, keep testing. What Gray Cloud said at the beginning of the post, is as cruel as it is absolutely true, you should not install mods if you do not know what is going to happen. Do you want a solution to avoid disaster?, start from scratch, install the necessary mods for the game to work properly. USLEEP, the skeleton... FNIs, Skyrim SexLab Framework v1.62. I still use NMM... make sure that the base where all the other mods will be supported is solid... Backup, keep testing... Well, he didn't even say that much, that I should install mods one by one, he was mostly just saying I was inept. Which quite honestly, wasn't very helpful. Your suggestion is more helpful. Rather than spending many hours if not days reinventing the wheel, if you have just one problem that can be fixed simply, wouldn't that be a better route to go? Hawk was able to help me find a soultion quite easily, now I have an idea of what to do moving forward. Unfortunately though Skyrim has successfully dominated me by its t pose. I fear I may have to start anew and try your suggestion. But now I have knowledgety lopze.jfif Of what mods to avoid.
stifftailx Posted June 17, 2020 Author Posted June 17, 2020 4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: I can't resist I have to throw some things in too. ? Blame @Grey Cloud for that ? One only installs ZAP! What did you do ? Also you have a lot of little mods that would need some testing if they work as intended. Also careful with older mods and requirements (your dragon overhaul needs for example brawl bugs patch, but there is a modern brawl bugs patch out for a while, wich you are also missing ?) So when you talk about the load order I used loot for the order, despite that its still wrong? So I shouldn't use loot? Ironically while I was skating around I did witness a brawl bug between npcs. I'm going to avoid sneak tools and bdnc in the future. And I might just use zap or avoid it alltogether. Honestly we need a proper monster girls mod. Because I didn't know what I was doing I installed nemesis like a dunkass. I tried uninstalling it by removing the files in the folder....Maybe I missed something. I don't know, that might have caused the t posing.
DUBALADO Posted June 17, 2020 Posted June 17, 2020 4 hours ago, stifftailx said: So when you talk about the load order I used loot for the order, despite that its still wrong? So I shouldn't use loot? Ironically while I was skating around I did witness a brawl bug between npcs. I'm going to avoid sneak tools and bdnc in the future. And I might just use zap or avoid it alltogether. Honestly we need a proper monster girls mod. Because I didn't know what I was doing I installed nemesis like a dunkass. I tried uninstalling it by removing the files in the folder....Maybe I missed something. I don't know, that might have caused the t posing. LOOT is a tool... an advisor... is more effective when you have few .esp. When the list is very large... not so much. That is why it would be convenient for you to reduce your list, not of mods, but of esp. The tools to deal with Skyrim are: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859/ TES5Edit, https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363?tab=files Save game script cleaner, https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12801/ Optimizer Textures (Ordenador), The latter is very good
donttouchmethere Posted June 17, 2020 Posted June 17, 2020 4 hours ago, stifftailx said: I used loot for the order, despite that its still wrong? So I shouldn't use loot? You use LOOT first, it usually can create a CTD free LO. But the more complex you LO gets, especially if many LL mods are included or multiple NPC replacers or mods that demand their requirements above them in LO or need to effect NPCs last, LOOT can't sort everything right anymore (because it can't look into your head to find out what you want to win). If you don't get CTD you will get gray faces and glitches. So after using LOOT you fine tune you LO, for example via suggestions from the mod author or logic, like patches below the requirements of them. It also can't solve issues you created with FNIS 4 hours ago, stifftailx said: And I might just use zap or avoid it alltogether. It's not hard to install, grab either ZAP 7,8 or 8+ You said you installed zaz and zap and I thought you maybe installed the old nexus version too or even multiple versions. 4 hours ago, stifftailx said: Because I didn't know what I was doing I installed nemesis like a dunkass. Experiments are good. You just need to have a stable base setup first, or you won't be able to know if things even work as intended. The last thing I read about Nemesis was that it doesn't go well with SL Creature animations, but I guess you made a practical test now : D
donttouchmethere Posted June 17, 2020 Posted June 17, 2020 4 hours ago, stifftailx said: Honestly we need a proper monster girls mod. I think so! ? I saw that you are CBBE user, means you could try this one too: Be warned, installation is a bit tricky.
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