Crashes near Riverwood

[Guest]

Hi, lately I've been experiencing CTDs when around or in Riverwood, I have alternate start installed so I first experienced this crash when I chose to start in the Inn inside Riverwood, I exited and made my way to the Riverwood trader then the game crashed right as I approached the door, after that I tried choosing the "I was camping in the wilderness" option and entering Riverwood from the outside, I approached a dead tree containing mora tapinela mushrooms on a hill overlooking the south west entrance of the town then the game crashed. can someone please help me?

 

here is my load order.

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     SexLab.esm
  7  7     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  8  8     AzarHair.esm
  9  9     ApachiiHair.esm
 10  a     hdtHighHeel.esm
 11  b     RaceCompatibility.esm
 12  c     BSAssets.esm
 13  d     BSHeartland.esm
 14  e     BS_DLC_patch.esp
 15  f     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 16 10     SexLabAroused.esm
 17 11     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 18 12     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 19 13     daymoyl.esm
 20 14     Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
 21 15     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 22 16     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 23 17     Erza.esp
 24 18     almalexia regalia.esp
 25 19     Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
 26 1a     LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
 27 1b     CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
 28 1c     proudspiremanortnf.esp
 29 1d     TelMithryn-Magical-Clutter-1.0.esp
 30 1e     Book Covers Skyrim.esp
 31 1f     Immersive Jewelry.esp
 32 20     RelicsofHyruleDragonborn.esp
           lozconjureherooftime.esp
 33 21     xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
 34 22     Undeath.esp
 35 23     LKVM by Nimee - Part I.esp
 36 24     HearthfireMultiKid.esp
 37 25     Artifact Disenchanting.esp
 38 26     MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
 39 27     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 40 28     Druidessentials.esp
 41 29     Drelas Reborn Dragonborn.esp
 42 2a     Immersive Weapons.esp
 43 2b     Daedric Entity Restoration Project.esp
 44 2c     LKVM by Nimee - Part II.esp
 45 2d     Dwarfsphere.esp
 46 2e     Arcadia's Cauldron Overhaul.esp
 47 2f     Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
 48 30     SimpleSlavery.esp
 49 31     Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp
 50 32     Colorful_Magic.esp
 51 33     Arcanum.esp
 52 34     CWIMTOTPatch.esp
 53 35     mihailhousedrescamp.esp
           CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
 54 36     Recorder Follower Base.esp
 55 37     FNIS.esp
 56 38     SLAnimLoader.esp
 57 39     LindsMarksmageGarb.esp
 58 3a     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 59 3b     Daedric Mage Armor.esp
 60 3c     Fancy Witch Outfit.esp
 61 3d     ContinueGameNoCrash.esp
 62 3e     natsuno.esp
 63 3f     LindsWoodlandAlchemist.esp
 64 40     LindsSpellslinger.esp
 65 41     Undeath Immersive Lichdom V3.esp
 66 42     Midas Magic Expanded.esp
 67 43     MageBackpack_byTumbajamba.esp
 68 44     Dr_Bandolier.esp
 69 45     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 70 46     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 71 47     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
 72 48     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 73 49     Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
 74 4a     HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
 75 4b     KS Hairdo's.esp
 76 4c     SilencedPrisoners.esp
 77 4d     CannabisUpdate.esp
 78 4e     Abundant Enchantments.esp
 79 4f     Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
 80 50     Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp
 81 51     FormsEdit.esp
 82 52     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
 83 53     InnovaEyes.esp
 84 54     Neithteam Warpaint.esp
 85 55     12FemaleBrows.esp
 86 56     BSHeartland - Meshes.esp
 87 57     BSHeartland - Textures.esp
 88 58     DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp
           CWICRFPatch.esp
 89 59     SkyUI.esp
 90 5a     RaceMenu.esp
 91 5b     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 92 5c     UIExtensions.esp
 93 5d     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 94 5e     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 95 5f     [NINI] Charles Rene.esp
 96 60     MassMatchMakerSE.esp
 97 61     SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
 98 62     dcc-dm2.esp
 99 63     hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
100 64     AnubAnimObj.esp
101 65     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
102 66     EFFStandCosMenu.esp
103 67     Refined Volkihars.esp
104 68     Character Creation Overhaul.esp
105 69     CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
106 6a     CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
107 6b     CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
108 6c     Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim CCO Patch.esp
109 6d     RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
110 6e     CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
111 6f     SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp
112 70     CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp
113 71     Dwemer Fairies.esp
114 72     Legionettes.esp
115 73     Sons of Skyrim Only.esp
116 74     CaranthirTowerReborn.esp
117 75     daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
118 76     Followers Unlimited 11.esp
119 77     AlchemistsHiddenValley.esp
120 78     Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp
121 79     Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp
122 7a     zombie mod.esp
123 7b     Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
124 7c     Equippable Tomes.esp
125 7d     Cannabis.esp
126 7e     DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp
127 7f     ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
128 80     Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
129 81     ChrisRichardz Anime Eyes.esp
130 82     warmagearmor.esp
131 83     Soulmaster Unlimited.esp
132 84     Devious Devices - Equip.esp
133 85     HTBWigsApachiiSkyHair.esp
134 86     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
135 87     da_alternate_start_extension.esp
136 88     TreasureHunterGarb.esp

 

[Guest]

Correction the CTDs seem to be happening anywhere, not just in Riverwood.

[donttouchmethere]

Are you using the basic stability fixes for Skyrim?

Stuff like this:

 

If it's not that, then you will have to go down the path of tears: remove mods you never had installed and you never saw working.

Search for incompatibilities and missing patches.

 

For example Immersive College of Winterhold would need a patch for M'rissi (it asks during FOMOD install) /doesn't explains your CTD, but maybe more patches are missing)

 

But worse might be mods like zombie mod => there are multiple out there

You know if it works on its own?

I tried the one from immersive wenches creator and got evil CTDs if a human transformed into a daugr.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

Are you using the basic stability fixes for Skyrim?

Stuff like this:

 

If it's not that, then you will have to go down the path of tears: remove mods you never had installed and you never saw working.

Search for incompatibilities and missing patches.

 

For example Immersive College of Winterhold would need a patch for M'rissi (it asks during FOMOD install) /doesn't explains your CTD, but maybe more patches are missing)

 

But worse might be mods like zombie mod => there are multiple out there

You know if it works on its own?

I tried the one from immersive wenches creator and got evil CTDs if a human transformed into a daugr.

I decided to bite the bullet and just uninstall the game plus all mods then try and run the game with only essential mods for now. btw the zombie mod, isn't what it sounds like, it's a mod from the steam workshop that adds spells, weapons, and Items based on Call of Duty Zombies like Summon Hellhound, the Wunderwaffe, and perka colas.

[donttouchmethere]

8 minutes ago, ClockworkTower said:

it's a mod from the steam workshop that adds spells, weapons, and Items based on Call of Duty Zombies like Summon Hellhound, the Wunderwaffe, and perka colas

oha!

Good to know.

 

I still need to try some zombie mods, so I guess my zombie fantasies got into the way ?

 

you mix steam mods into your LO?

Heard that isn't such a good idea.

Can't remember why, guess auto updates and things like that

[coolfreaky]

if i may !  looking in your Load Order i see an esp in the middle of a bunch of esm !  .  and second where do you hide your xpmse.esp !

[RedMonika]

1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said:

oha!

Good to know.

 

I still need to try some zombie mods, so I guess my zombie fantasies got into the way ?

 

you mix steam mods into your LO?

Heard that isn't such a good idea.

Can't remember why, guess auto updates and things like that

There is a zombie apocalypse on Nexus

[donttouchmethere]

1 hour ago, coolfreaky said:

if i may !  looking in your Load Order i see an esp in the middle of a bunch of esm !  .  and second where do you hide your xpmse.esp !

 

17 hours ago, ClockworkTower said:

14  e     BS_DLC_patch.esp

Good eyes coolfreaky!

 

How did you manage that ClockworkTower? (or is that esp flagged as esm? Is that even possible?)

 

About the XPMSE.esp => @Psalam told me again and again that you don't need to activate it to have it working.

Would be very bad if it isn't installed at all ?

[donttouchmethere]

1 hour ago, RedMonika said:

There is a zombie apocalypse on Nexus

and 28days later(?)

 

Did you try any of those personally?

[theonebullet]

How up to date is your SKSE? 

[RedMonika]

57 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

and 28days later(?)

 

Did you try any of those personally?

No, I haven't but I did try SOT's zombie/draugr part and that was nuts.

[RedMonika]

Well, it might come down to disabling mods and going down to see what's causing it. I had to do that the other day. It's a huge pain but my issue was fixed. Do you use LOOT? That armor at the end of the order looks strange to me.

 

FYI you have a bunch of mods that can be merged together.

 

All your armor mods except for Hoth's mod can be merged:

Immersive Jewelry.esp
Daedric Mage Armor.esp
Fancy Witch Outfit.esp
[NINI] Charles Rene.esp
warmagearmor.esp
TreasureHunterGarb.esp

 

Your body mods:

InnovaEyes.esp
Neithteam Warpaint.esp
12FemaleBrows.esp
RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp
CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp

 

and patches:

Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim CCO Patch.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp

 

I would venture to say that these could be merged as well:

CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp

[Guest]

17 hours ago, coolfreaky said:

if i may !  looking in your Load Order i see an esp in the middle of a bunch of esm !  .  and second where do you hide your xpmse.esp !

Your right! could that be the problem? When I click on BSDLC and USMP's esps in NMM i get the warning "This plugin has the file extenstion .esp but it's file header marks it as a esm!" and I can't move them.

[coolfreaky]

i am wrong !       With Mod Organizer 2 (recommended) or Vortex:
Click "download with manager" or download the archives manually. Once the mod is activated, ensure that both BSAssets.esm and BSHeartland.esm are enabled in your load order and that BSHeartland.esm loads AFTER BSAssets.esm. BS_DLC_patch.esp should then follow BSHeartland.esm.

 

but it is a very heavy mod  try out what is recommended : 

 

A memory patch such as SKSE with the memory patch activated or SSME. Failure to activate a memory patch prior to loading into Bruma will cause the game to crash.
During beta testing, some testers, especially those on older machines found that Crash fixes and Safety Load gave an additional boost in performance.

[Scar001]

Hello good day

I had CTD in that same place not long ago. In my case the ctd was generated by the LOD, accidentally I activated an option in some of my mods that modified the lod, this caused this CTD close to the wolves. I even thought it was the fallen tree, but no, LOD was the problem.

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, Scar001 said:

Hello good day

I had CTD in that same place not long ago. In my case the ctd was generated by the LOD, accidentally I activated an option in some of my mods that modified the lod, this caused this CTD close to the wolves. I even thought it was the fallen tree, but no, LOD was the problem.

How do I fix that, or what mod caused it?

[Guest]

The problem has been fixed everyone, thank you all for your help!

[Scar001]

On 5/19/2020 at 4:24 PM, ClockworkTower said:

How do I fix that, or what mod caused it?

Just answering this question, if other people with the problem show up to see this topic.

If you do not know which mod is conflicting with the lod, the only solution is to go on modifying the mods every 3 or 5, to face the problem. This helgen route to Riverwood is very good for testing the mods.