mcnv Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 Back story time! so recently, I've finished a play through of fallout 3 and moved to fallout NV. Tale of Two Wastelands style. So I enter Good old Goodsprings and splurged my Throbbing Hippo-campus chemicals in my brain as I went with the tutorial (and Jade). At the point of starting the side quest, Ghost town Gunfight\Run Goodsprings Run I notice an issue, The people of Goodsprings spoke with silent voices, custom voices made by another mod. This messed up the encounter with Ringo and Cobb. Ringo won't point a gut at you and ask why are you here, instead he just says "Howdy miss" and moves you to his normal dialog tree. That's all well and good until the game asks you to inform Ringo that Sunny Smiles agreed to protect him. He just says "Howdy miss". What should happen the second time you talk to him AFTER you ask if you can help him was a special dialog in which he asks about Sunny and you are given only two dialog, instead, that never happened and you go to his normal dialog tree where you could play caravan with him. THIS BROKE THE QUEST AS YOU CAN'T TELL RICO THAT SUNNY AGREED TO PROTECT HIM. so I did what a debugger do, disable a chunk of some sexout mods (i know it's a sexout mod because that is the only mods that mess with quests), and activated smaller chunks to find what is making it do this. It was ttw another kick in the head, I think. it was sexist dialogues. sorry for the false accusation. the dialog chance was not instantiations and require a few minutes of play to manifest. so that's not a issue now because I can play around the problem... maybe variably bull Now after I rearranged my load order, something else came up which was solved before. stuttering. I debugged an annoying stuttering BEFORE all this, that is consistent in every save game even old ones. (and requires a few seconds to manifest.) load order with no\minimal stuttering Spoiler FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm Fallout3.esm Anchorage.esm ThePitt.esm BrokenSteel.esm PointLookout.esm Zeta.esm CaravanPack.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm YUPTTW.esm Functional Post Game Ending.esm Sortomatic.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutSlavery.esm FalloutTTWquestoverhaul.esp SexoutSoliciting.esm SexoutTryout.esm SexoutPregnancyV3.esm Maternity Pack Overkill.esp SexoutOffSpring.esm Fertile Breeder.esp FBCaptured.esp FBZeta.esp FBJade.esp FBDCBreeder.esp SexoutWorkingGirl.esp FBFarm.esp Another-Kick-in-the-Head.esm Project Nevada - Core.esm MikotoBeauty.esm YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp The Weapon Mod Menu.esp FOVSlider.esp CASM with MCM.esp ItemBrowser.esp LootMenu.esp TTW_ArmorExpansion.esp TTW_PerkPerLevel.esp TTW_XPReduction.esp HT Unlimited Ammo.esp MikotoBeauty.esp Better Game Performance.esp Root 'n Loot.esp SexoutBreeder.esp TTWQO Additions and Patch.esp OutfitMasterMod.esp FNV Vanilla hat fix with all storyline DLCs.esp MPO scriptaddon TTW.esp MPO scriptaddon AllDLC.esp MPO scriptaddon OWB.esp USSHoodwink.esp Sexist Dialogue V1.5.0.esp SexoutConsequences.esp MPO scriptaddon HH.esp MPO scriptaddon DM.esp MPO scriptaddon Base.esp T4-plugin-TTW.esp T4-plugin.esp FalloutNVCheatTerminal.esp Delay DLC - TTW.esp VulpineRace.esp 1CazyTestEsp.esp FOXnpctestrev2.esp VulpineRace-Companions.esp VulpineNPCs.esp MaskRemoval.esp Portable Storage Device - Unlimited Edition.esp Immersive Minigames.esp Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp Project Nevada - Old World Blues (No Cyberware).esp NPCs Can Miss.esp TTW_VATS.esp JustHitMarker.esp TTW_PNxC.esp Slave In Pose FNV Full Edition.esp SmallerTalk.esp SexoutAnimManagement.esp SexoutPosNew.esp SexoutSpunk.esp TTW SM and Ghouls FIX.esp SexoutLoversBed.esp Maternity Pack Overkill TTW32addon.esp SexoutTTWEncounters.esp Type3MClothing.esp RSCR-Expansion_Decks.esp SexoutSoliciting-DLC.esp PlayableCompanionClothesTTW.esp OCD-Cass outfits.esp TTW Anchorage Requisitions.esp Sexout-Another-Kick-Extension.esp MPO scriptaddon Tryout.esp RemoveWorkstationNeeds.esp SexoutSexAssault.esp BodyMorph.esp Dc_UniqueWeaponSkin.esp TTW-TrainStationAccessViaInventory.esp SexoutAftermath.esp SexoutFadeToBlack.esp StealthSuitModuleGloves.esp RSCR-Enhanced.esp T6M CH Raider Armor.esp Bouncing Natural Breasts.esp C2O_CombatArmor.esp Type3MClothing_HH.esp Type3MClothing_OWB.esp Veronica_nerdy.esp EssentialPlayer.esp ttw_-_custom_race_ending_fix.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp Loot Unconscious Victims.esp JustModsAssorted.esp Load order after debugging and the stutter came back Spoiler FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm Fallout3.esm Anchorage.esm ThePitt.esm BrokenSteel.esm PointLookout.esm Zeta.esm CaravanPack.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm YUPTTW.esm Functional Post Game Ending.esm Sortomatic.esm Sexout.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm FalloutTTWquestoverhaul.esp SexoutSoliciting.esm SexoutTryout.esm SexoutPregnancyV3.esm Maternity Pack Overkill.esp SexoutOffSpring.esm Fertile Breeder.esp FBCaptured.esp FBZeta.esp MikotoBeauty.esm FBJade.esp FBDCBreeder.esp SexoutWorkingGirl.esp FBFarm.esp Another-Kick-in-the-Head.esm Project Nevada - Core.esm YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp The Weapon Mod Menu.esp FOVSlider.esp CASM with MCM.esp ItemBrowser.esp TTW_ArmorExpansion.esp TTW_PerkPerLevel.esp TTW_XPReduction.esp HT Unlimited Ammo.esp MikotoBeauty.esp Better Game Performance.esp SexoutSpunk.esp Root 'n Loot.esp SexoutBreeder.esp TTWQO Additions and Patch.esp FNV Vanilla hat fix with all storyline DLCs.esp USSHoodwink.esp T4-plugin-TTW.esp T4-plugin.esp SexoutTryoutResistanceOverhaul.esp MPO scriptaddon TTW.esp Sexist Dialogue V1.5.0.esp SexoutConsequences.esp FalloutNVCheatTerminal.esp Delay DLC - TTW.esp VulpineRace.esp 1CazyTestEsp.esp FOXnpctestrev2.esp VulpineRace-Companions.esp VulpineNPCs.esp MaskRemoval.esp Portable Storage Device - Unlimited Edition.esp Immersive Minigames.esp Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp Project Nevada - Old World Blues (No Cyberware).esp NPCs Can Miss.esp TTW_VATS.esp JustHitMarker.esp TTW_PNxC.esp Slave In Pose FNV Full Edition.esp SmallerTalk.esp SexoutAnimManagement.esp SexoutPosNew.esp TTW SM and Ghouls FIX.esp Type3MClothing.esp RSCR-Expansion_Decks.esp PlayableCompanionClothesTTW.esp OCD-Cass outfits.esp StealthSuitModuleGloves.esp RSCR-Enhanced.esp T6M CH Raider Armor.esp Bouncing Natural Breasts.esp C2O_CombatArmor.esp Veronica_nerdy.esp ttw_-_custom_race_ending_fix.esp Loot Unconscious Victims.esp JustModsAssorted.esp EssentialPlayer.esp Dc_UniqueWeaponSkin.esp SexoutAftermath.esp SexoutFadeToBlack.esp SexoutTTWEncounters.esp TTW Anchorage Requisitions.esp BodyMorph.esp Maternity Pack Overkill TTW32addon.esp SexoutSoliciting-DLC.esp Sexout-Another-Kick-Extension.esp TTW-TrainStationAccessViaInventory.esp MPO scriptaddon Tryout.esp RemoveWorkstationNeeds.esp SexoutSexAssault.esp Type3MClothing_HH.esp Type3MClothing_OWB.esp SexoutLoversBed.esp OutfitMasterMod.esp I use Loot to sort my load order. it's not very consistent as you can see. The big question is, What is the Differance Between These Two Load Orders That is Making That Annoying Stuttering ?
dongding Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 TTW Another Kick in the Head download page states: NOTE: I just got back to FONV and I've found several big issues with this that need to be addressed. So for the time being I'm pulling this as it wasn't working anyway. It seems I've got some scripts that need updating. Not sure when I'll get to it however. So sorry for the time being! So you shouldn't use this one to begin with. The game suddenly suttering after you ordered your list is kinda strange though. Its not possible to tell what exactly could be the cause here since the list is huge, and I don't even know half of the mods (though some of them sound really dubious / useless). Better Game Performance.esp for example is a mod I would never use in combination with TTW, since it deletes stuff from the files which TTW might use, but can't find. CASM with MCM is also known to cause problems, and it's advised to use this mod instead: https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66347?tab=files Which comes with hundred .esp-less fixes that you can tweak in the mod's .ini file (this mod would also make plugins like CASM with MCM.esp TTW_PerkPerLevel.esp TTW_XPReduction.esp obsolete). At the end, it's probably a script running wild, or some mod fucking up performance because of dirty entries.
mcnv Posted March 21, 2020 Author Posted March 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, dongding said: TTW Another Kick in the Head download page states: NOTE: I just got back to FONV and I've found several big issues with this that need to be addressed. So for the time being I'm pulling this as it wasn't working anyway. It seems I've got some scripts that need updating. Not sure when I'll get to it however. So sorry for the time being! So you shouldn't use this one to begin with. The game suddenly suttering after you ordered your list is kinda strange though. Its not possible to tell what exactly could be the cause here since the list is huge, and I don't even know half of the mods (though some of them sound really dubious / useless). Better Game Performance.esp for example is a mod I would never use in combination with TTW, since it deletes stuff from the files which TTW might use, but can't find. CASM with MCM is also known to cause problems, and it's advised to use this mod instead: https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66347?tab=files Which comes with hundred .esp-less fixes that you can tweak in the mod's .ini file (this mod would also make plugins like CASM with MCM.esp TTW_PerkPerLevel.esp TTW_XPReduction.esp obsolete). At the end, it's probably a script running wild, or some mod fucking up performance because of dirty entries. After further testing I found it was just Sexist dialogue that broke Ringo. Shucks, TTW AKITH didn't work? i don't think i had a chance to test it since i had so many other death alternative mods. Thanks for the warning I still have CASM because i'm afraid of the consequence of uninstalling it. as for those dubious performance mods, I installed those for the stuttering. now that I know it's because something else, into the recycling bin they go! I already have Stewie's Tweaks but didn't look at the ini. Thanks! it's been years since I've played this.
dongding Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 You might also want to look into the jip_nvse.ini, which also comes with more game hotfixes that are not always enabled by default.
Swanky Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 Wait a minute - I've been using CASM with MCM for years now and I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary?
dborg2 Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 I was testing MPO the other day after a half-a-year hiatus and I noticed NVSR, even with the right settings, completely broke for me. Perhaps that is also your issue. I now use the Tick fix, and it is 'back to normal' again. https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66537 I haven't tested the link above yet (lStewieAl's Tweaks) https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66347?tab=files
mcnv Posted March 25, 2020 Author Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, dborg2 said: I was testing MPO the other day after a half-a-year hiatus and I noticed NVSR, even with the right settings, completely broke for me. Perhaps that is also your issue. I now use the Tick fix, and it is 'back to normal' again. https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66537 I haven't tested the link above yet (lStewieAl's Tweaks) https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66347?tab=files I have all three, I'll try removing NVSR. Edit: still have annoying stutters
mcnv Posted April 16, 2020 Author Posted April 16, 2020 I have found something interesting about the stutter. It removes itself after a fight. I went into a save file and a few moments later the stutter appear. Then i got into a fight, got fucked, and killed my enemies in that order. and like a fox with a revolver tied ti it's tail, the stutter disappeared. So that's why it's so manageable now.
dongding Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 What are your PC specs anyway? And are you using ENB? Also, some performance tips: 1) Enable EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=true in the enblocal.ini if you use ENB 2) Add this line to this file file Fallout New Vegas\Data\NVSE\NVSE_Config.ini [Memory] DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=496 3) Set iMinFPS to 24 in the TickFix.ini 4) Set iMaxFPS to 120 in the TickFix.ini
mcnv Posted April 17, 2020 Author Posted April 17, 2020 23 hours ago, dongding said: What are your PC specs anyway? And are you using ENB? Also, some performance tips: 1) Enable EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=true in the enblocal.ini if you use ENB 2) Add this line to this file file Fallout New Vegas\Data\NVSE\NVSE_Config.ini [Memory] DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=496 3) Set iMinFPS to 24 in the TickFix.ini 4) Set iMaxFPS to 120 in the TickFix.ini Specs ehh... Intel(R) Core(tm) i5-6400 cpu @ 2.70Hz 2.70GHz 16 GB ram windows 10 NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1060 6GB was that all? Yes, I'm using ENB. I've done most of them already, only needed to edit the NVSE_config.ini given by the NVSE extender.
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