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Nymra

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Ok ok, I do not post this first, just after days of trying to fix it. But I am now officially at wits end and dont even know what to ask google anymore.

 

- I got a new PC and copied my profiles over from my old one. Everything worked FINE!

- I created a new Profile, installed a new nice ENB (real vision ENB), updated all mods, got all the new mods (including baka body) 

 

- nothing worx :(

I just hope to maybe get at least a hint on the general direction of my problem. I will continue to test, change ENB, deactivating mod after mod and so on. 
Just a tedious process and I thought I can spare some 10 mins to write this cry for help in between :D


The problems I encounter:

 

1. General Problems

using Skyrim Unbound, both old and with Unbound Reborn)

 

1.1.

I often get CTD on New Game, with or without FNIS overwrite folder ticked, with or without Animation Loading Fix ticked etc. (Im pretty sure I sorted out it beeing a FNIS or anim problem)

 

1.2

2 out of 3 times POP fails to initiate on a new Game. If that happens the MCM shows not up ever, no matter what I do (MCM kicker, ski_configblabla etc).

 

1.3 

if I get to the point where I can actually do stuff, I also get crashes on Save (save and reload after messages end)

1.4 

then I get crashes on reload when I manage to save

 

1.5

sometimes when it FINALLY loads I am in a black space falling, HDT is beginning to produce long stripes...

I then use coc whiterun and can "save it". Sometimes at least.

 

1.6

if I "save" it, I very often get the following problem:

On Cell Change or sometimes after Load I drop to 10-15 fps until I eventually crash. 

 

2. Crash Fixes 
When activate UseOSAllocators=1 in Crash Fixes I always get the "message from crash fixes, Skyrim failed to allocate memory"

None of the suggested changes worked, I got the message all the time until I set UseOSAllocators=0 

Now I dont know if I should even use Crash Fixes (game does not work with or without) or what other options there are that could solve the popup message (if that is the way to go). 
As I said, I tested everything that I find online, no change.

 


I sort my Load Order with Loot, 
I set all the inis correct (ENB, Skse, Skyrim) at least from the numerous guides...

I made a profile with only 70 plugins, very reduced. 
There some of the problems are less severe (still alot of CTD, but no crash fix warning). 

So I think it must be a mod.... might be a mod... But it just can be 70 plugins means less of a load and therefore the problems dont show up.

But now I have a very good PC now and the problems really shouldnt be there. The thing is: I managed to have a game outside with Baka body, running around for many ingame hours, no problem, no lag, not even some FPS losses. 
So I could see my Rig can handle the load order and something messes up in the background somwhere....

Anybody has any idea? I was hoping it is connected to a faulty installation of Bakas new Body (SMP/HDT and such) but I think I could rule that out with some ticking/unticking testing. 

 

My LO, sorted by Loot. 
I know there is some ideas on sorting manually, but I have honestly have not found the time yet to dig deeper into that... (on my ages old PC, see below, I never had a similar problem and I always sorted with Loot) 

So... this is just a desperate cry for help lol. 
And yeah I get the irony of having a new machine for 1,4k and not beeing able to get a stable skyrim with just some better ENB compared to on my old System (10 year old PC i5 750) everything worked except for some 30, 40 average FPS. The Painz... 

I also dont know if I have to get something right with my new PC. Installed all the direct X stuff and so on, newest Drivers, whatnot. Ah sigh :(
 

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Maybe you could check this blog out for help and also ask questions about ENB settings:

 

 

You could also check if:

ENboost way to handle memory

 

ENBoost:

[memory]
expandsystemmemoryx64=false

 ;⚠️crash fixes will take over this part, see next chapter

 

crash fixes:

⚠️ activate the memory allocator patch of crash fixes in CrashFixPlugin.ini:
UseOSAllocators=1

 

means check if you have the "ENB expandsystemmemoryx64" and the "crash fixes allocator patch" activated at the same time.

Guess if you use ENB and "expandsystemmemory = true" you can set "UseOSAllocators = 0"?

 

Also for UUNP and using ENB with expandsystemmemoryx64=true, would you still need to set:

⚠️If UUNP RaceMenu sliders are used change the following line in CrashFixPlugin.ini:

AlignHeapAllocate=1

?

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24 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Maybe you could check this blog out for help and also ask questions about ENB settings:

 

 

You could also check if:

ENboost way to handle memory

 

ENBoost:

[memory]
expandsystemmemoryx64=false

 ;⚠️crash fixes will take over this part, see next chapter

 

 

tried with true and false, no change. Tried with false and with crash fixes, no change.

Quote

 

crash fixes:

⚠️ activate the memory allocator patch of crash fixes in CrashFixPlugin.ini:
UseOSAllocators=1

used 0 and 1, no change. 

Quote

 

means check if you have the "ENB expandsystemmemoryx64" and the "crash fixes allocator patch" activated at the same time.

Guess if you use ENB and "expandsystemmemory = true" you can set "UseOSAllocators = 0"?

 

I had it both on, both of and sideways :(

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Also for UUNP and using ENB with expandsystemmemoryx64=true, would you still need to set:

⚠️If UUNP RaceMenu sliders are used change the following line in CrashFixPlugin.ini:

AlignHeapAllocate=1

?

I use the racemenu sliders, but not sure if I treid this combination yet. heap allocate 1 and expandsystemmemory true. 
I m also confused because there is a guide that says OFF and there is one that says ON... for example in the ENB settings he writes for real vision "true"... 

Problem is there are so many factors and combinations, my head spins. its like picking a numbers lock. 

 

 

 

I played around with different combinations of these, but nothing changed. It in fact feels like they have nothing to do with the problem at all :(
That is why I made the thread in the first place.


To be clear here:
I seem to have the choice between "Message from crash fixes, skyrim will CTD now" or the strange CTDs and lag... As if there is some detail somwhere that is just missing, grrrr

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24 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

both "on" would be pretty bad ?

 

I must admit I would be totally confused too if I didn't use always the same settings that proved to work.

Then again I don't use an ENB.

 

I so hope that someone jumps in here and gives some good clues! ?

yeah, thats the problem... everything worked, now I got a better PC and it doesent. makes my brain spin ^^

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Bedtime here but some quick pointers from my rock solid game.

SKSE.ini

[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=2048

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1
EnableDiagnostics=1

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

 

Crash Fixes

UseOSAllocators=1

AlignHeapAllocate=1

 

SKSE Plugin Preloader - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/?

 

Use Bethini to sort your ini files. Set them to low or default. You can always crank them up or tweak them later.

 

Double-check your ENBlocal.ini settings and make sure they are tailored for your machine.

 

If you have an NVidia card your could run Skyrim Performance Monitor to see if it can highlight an obvious resource hog or bottleneck.

 

I use Load Game CTD Fix rather than the older Continue Game (it doesn't use an esp for a bonus)

 

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Hmm I played around with my Nvidia driver settings. Having the drivers in german and instructions in english clearly is a problem. I come to the point where I want to do this full time, just to have the time needed to do all this correctly from the very start. Dun dun....

 

Seems I am one step further (but might be luck? dunno).

 

I got a new game without CTD and with POP initializind. Had not CTD when saving reloading.
BUT: 
I still got the weird black space when I first loaded my first save. 
I fixed it with COC whiterun and it seems to work.

 

NEW ISSUE:
Now, sometimes, when I save (I dont have quicksave, only full manual saves), I suddenly have the script lag (FPS drop to 10) out of nowhere.
This can only be fixed by restarting Skyrim. But it returns quite regularly :(

 

 

 

35 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

 

Bedtime here but some quick pointers from my rock solid game.

SKSE.ini

[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=2048

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1
EnableDiagnostics=1

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

these are the obvious ones and I have them all.

 

35 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Crash Fixes

UseOSAllocators=1

AlignHeapAllocate=1

as I said, with these settings I get the message from crashfixes that skyrim failed to allocate memory. And when i click OK skyrim closes.
 

35 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:


I have this. same as above.

 

 

35 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Use Bethini to sort your ini files. Set them to low or default. You can always crank them up or tweak them later.

I set my inis with Step, but will use BETHini again still, lets see....

 

35 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

 

Double-check your ENBlocal.ini settings and make sure they are tailored for your machine.

 

according to the sources all is set correctly. 

35 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

 

If you have an NVidia card your could run Skyrim Performance Monitor to see if it can highlight an obvious resource hog or bottleneck.

good idea. will try this.

 

35 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

I use Load Game CTD Fix rather than the older Continue Game (it doesn't use an esp for a bonus)

 

ok? I have both. is this a problem? Might have lost track somewhere when ticking/unticking. But I have them for ages and no similar problems in my old system. 

I uncheck continue game, cant hurt i guess.... 

 

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15 minutes ago, Nymra said:

I get the message from crashfixes that skyrim failed to allocate memory

If you have message is because, really, a mod is consuming all the memory of the game. Can be a bad mod generating script as crazy or a bad DLL that consume memory. Take a look to your papyrus and disable mods with DLL.

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7 hours ago, alex77r4 said:

If you have message is because, really, a mod is consuming all the memory of the game. Can be a bad mod generating script as crazy or a bad DLL that consume memory. Take a look to your papyrus and disable mods with DLL.

I have a log from the last time the message appeared 

 

But I cant make sense of it :D

 

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[03/14/2020 - 10:36:20AM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:20AM] Function GetEffectMagnitudes in the empty state on type Ingredient does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:20AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 2000.000000ms)
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:20AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:20AM] Cannot open store for class "xs2__prkf_xmapassivefingersmi_05112b24", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:20AM] Cannot open store for class "xxx_prkf_xxxpassivefingersmit_020a3756", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Cannot open store for class "fnissmquestscript", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Cannot open store for class "fnissmconfigmenu", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Cannot open store for class "ZazOnTriggerEnterBindingsTMG", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Cannot open store for class "HR_LeashedMEScript", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Cannot open store for class "HR_LooseHavokChainScript", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Cannot open store for class "HR_DisableHeadTrack", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Cannot open store for class "HR_ChainConnector", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Error: Unable to bind script JaxonzConsolePlugIn to JaxonzDiagnosticsQuest (22000800) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Error: Unable to bind script jaxonzstringutil to JaxonzDiagnosticsQuest (22000800) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Error: Unable to bind script jaxonzdiagnostics to JaxonzDiagnosticsQuest (22000800) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Cannot open store for class "zzEstrusOnLoadScript", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Cannot open store for class "PF_zzEstrusPackageDoNothingO_0101C3CF", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:33AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_zzEstrusPackageDoNothingO_0101C3CF to  (3701C3CF) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:34AM] Cannot open store for class "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:34AM] Cannot open store for class "daymoyl_QuestTemplate", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:34AM] Error: Unable to link "daymoyl_QuestTemplate" - the parent of "xpoIntegration".
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:34AM] Error: Unable to bind script xpoIntegration to xpoIntegration (61041A3B) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:34AM] Cannot open store for class "SLENMainController", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:35AM] Error: Failed to find variable ::Target_var used in _sdmes_armbinder.OnEffectStart()
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:35AM] Error: Failed to find variable ::Terminate_var used in _sdmes_armbinder.OnEffectStart()
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:35AM] Error: Failed to find variable ::Target_var used in _sdmes_armbinder.OnEffectStart()
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:35AM] Error: Failed to find variable ::TweenMenuKey_var used in _sdmes_armbinder.OnEffectStart()
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:35AM] Error: Failed to find variable ::TweenMenuKey_var used in _sdmes_armbinder.OnEffectStart()
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:35AM] Error: Failed to find variable ::Target_var used in _sdmes_armbinder.OnEffectStart()
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:35AM] Error: Unable to bind script _SDDA_BlackoutEnslavement to _SDDA_BlackoutEnslavement (711C51CB) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:35AM] Error: Unable to bind script _SDDA_BlackoutEnslavementCreature to _SDDA_BlackoutEnslavementCreature (711C61F2) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:35AM] Error: Unable to bind script _SDDA_BlackoutSpriggan to _SDDA_BlackoutSpriggan (711C61F3) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:35AM] Error: Unable to bind script _SDDA_DeathDreamworld to _SDDA_DeathDreamworld (711C61F4) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:35AM] Error: Unable to bind script _SDDA_BlackoutDreamworld to _SDDA_BlackoutDreamworld (711C61F5) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:35AM] Cannot open store for class "amputatormainscript", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Error: Unable to bind script SSLV_DAIntScript to SSLV_DAInt (7C00FB14) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Error: Unable to bind script sslVanillaVoicesAlias to SexLabQuestVanillaVoices (A20054A1) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Error: Unable to bind script sslExtraVoicesAlias to SexLabExtraVoices (A500189E) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "SexlabUtil1DispelDur", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "sam_questscript", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "arxframeworkscr", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "vkjMQ", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "mariaedenstools", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "dcur_df_questscript", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "dcur_leon_enslavescript", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "dcur_mcmconfig", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "SLSF_CompatibilityScript", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "dfwdeviousframework", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Error: Unable to bind script JaxonzEnhGrabObject to JaxonzEnhGrabUpdateQuest (CF000D62) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Error: Unable to bind script JaxonzConsolePlugIn to JaxonzEnhGrabUpdateQuest (CF000D62) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "mustmcm", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "SF_daf_fcq_helpReactScene_0400285B", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_daf_fcq_helpReactScene_0400285B to  (D500285B) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Cannot open store for class "TheCoenaculiUNP", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] Error: Unable to bind script TheCoenaculiUNP to TheCoenaculiUNP (E2000801) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] error: Native static function GetEnbVersion could find no matching static function on linked type BetterFreeCameraScript. Function will not be bound.
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:36AM] error: Native static function ToggleDepthOfField could find no matching static function on linked type BetterFreeCameraScript. Function will not be bound.
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:38AM] Cannot open store for class "autoclosedoor", missing file?
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:38AM] Error: Unable to bind script autoclosedoor to  (663BE22C) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:38AM] Error: Unable to bind script autoclosedoor to  (663BE22B) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:38AM] Error: Unable to bind script autoclosedoor to  (663BE22A) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] Error: Unable to bind script zzEstrusOnLoadScript to alias zzEstrusPlayer on quest zzEstrusQuest (37004888) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] Error: Unable to bind script daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias to alias PlayerRef on quest xpoIntegration (61041A3B) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] Error: Unable to bind script SKI_ConfigBase to alias PlayerRef on quest PopLandsMCM (6E02297F) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] Error: Unable to bind script daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias to alias PlayerRef on quest _SDDA_Register (711C51CA) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] Error: Unable to bind script daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias to alias PlayerRef on quest SSLV_DARegister (7C03B46E) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] Error: Unable to bind script sdsMCMSkillBoost to alias PlayerAlias on quest sdsSkillConfig (B90012C4) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property City on script mf_simplejob_locationchance attached to alias thePlayer on quest mf_Prostitute_SimpleJob (BB001D9C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property Town on script mf_simplejob_locationchance attached to alias thePlayer on quest mf_Prostitute_SimpleJob (BB001D9C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] Error: Property Pages on script sluts_mcm attached to sluts_kicker (820012C6) cannot be initialized because the value is the incorrect type
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property Cedran on script HorseMarkarth attached to  (00098493) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property Nec2 on script TerynneAliasScript attached to TerynneQuest (57377D79) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property Nec1 on script TerynneAliasScript attached to TerynneQuest (57377D79) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property Nec3 on script TerynneAliasScript attached to TerynneQuest (57377D79) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] Error: Property Sexlab on script sexlabstopcombatquestscript attached to StopCombatQuest (D4000D62) cannot be bound because StopCombatQuest (D4000D62) is not the right type
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property Girl on script sluts_test_cart_cross attached to  (8200EBD0) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property SSLV_SlaveOutfit2 on script sslv_configscr attached to SSLV_Config (7C02FF82) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property Devices on script SLV_VersionCheck attached to SLV_Menu (7A001828) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property isDoggyPlayer on script daf_rascript attached to alias ra on quest daf_pfcq (D500333B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] Error: Element of property DeflationPose on script ndun_configquest_scr attached to ndun_ConfigQuest (BF0012C5) cannot be bound because  (0E026D68) is not the right type
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] Error: Element of property DeflationPose on script ndun_configquest_scr attached to ndun_ConfigQuest (BF0012C5) cannot be bound because  (0E026D69) is not the right type
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] Error: Element of property DeflationPose on script ndun_configquest_scr attached to ndun_ConfigQuest (BF0012C5) cannot be bound because  (0E026D69) is not the right type
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property bModActive on script jaxonzenhgrab attached to JaxonzEnhGrabUpdateQuest (CF000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property conversationGlobal on script FacelightMCM attached to FLP_Quest (F1000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:48AM] warning: Property FreeformMarkarthO on script mdcuestartscript attached to  (571EC62D) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property iVulnerableFurniture on script crdemcmscript attached to crdeMCM (BA00BF4F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property thisQuest on script mf_solicitprostitute attached to mf_SoliciteProstitute (BB00BA71) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property Axe on script DLC2DBAncientDragonbornSCRIPT attached to  (0401DC33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property dunArcherQST on script WilliamTellArrow3dnpc attached to  (572E1E29) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property flArrows on script WilliamTellArrow3dnpc attached to  (572E1E29) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property myActor on script WilliamTellArrow3dnpc attached to  (572E1E29) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Property Alias_cc on script QF_daf_fcq_020022F5 attached to daf_fcq (D50022F5) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (1) on <NULL quest> (D50022F5) is not the right type
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property SSv3_HirelingApproaching on script SSv3HirelingRecurringAlias attached to alias HirelingRecurring on quest SSv2NPCs (62000D63) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property Vex on script HorseRiften attached to  (000984A1) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property Horse on script HorseWhiterun attached to  (760C43D7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property DungeonKey on script dunAngarvundeMedresiScript attached to alias Medresi on quest dunAngarvundeQST (0007EDE5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property PredatorFaction on script zzestruschaurushachlingfeedscript attached to  (9E04F2A4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] VM is freezing...
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] VM is frozen
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Reverting game...
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script JaxonzConsolePlugIn to JaxonzDiagnosticsQuest (22000800) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script jaxonzstringutil to JaxonzDiagnosticsQuest (22000800) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script jaxonzdiagnostics to JaxonzDiagnosticsQuest (22000800) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_zzEstrusPackageDoNothingO_0101C3CF to  (3701C3CF) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script sslExtraVoicesAlias to SexLabExtraVoices (A500189E) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_daf_fcq_helpReactScene_0400285B to  (D500285B) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script _SDDA_DeathDreamworld to _SDDA_DeathDreamworld (711C61F4) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script _SDDA_BlackoutDreamworld to _SDDA_BlackoutDreamworld (711C61F5) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script _SDDA_BlackoutSpriggan to _SDDA_BlackoutSpriggan (711C61F3) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script _SDDA_BlackoutEnslavementCreature to _SDDA_BlackoutEnslavementCreature (711C61F2) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script _SDDA_BlackoutEnslavement to _SDDA_BlackoutEnslavement (711C51CB) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script autoclosedoor to  (663BE22C) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script JaxonzEnhGrabObject to JaxonzEnhGrabUpdateQuest (CF000D62) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script JaxonzConsolePlugIn to JaxonzEnhGrabUpdateQuest (CF000D62) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script autoclosedoor to  (663BE22A) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script autoclosedoor to  (663BE22B) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script sslVanillaVoicesAlias to SexLabQuestVanillaVoices (A20054A1) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script SSLV_DAIntScript to SSLV_DAInt (7C00FB14) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script TheCoenaculiUNP to TheCoenaculiUNP (E2000801) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script xpoIntegration to xpoIntegration (61041A3B) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias to alias PlayerRef on quest SSLV_DARegister (7C03B46E) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script zzEstrusOnLoadScript to alias zzEstrusPlayer on quest zzEstrusQuest (37004888) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script SKI_ConfigBase to alias PlayerRef on quest PopLandsMCM (6E02297F) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias to alias PlayerRef on quest _SDDA_Register (711C51CA) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias to alias PlayerRef on quest xpoIntegration (61041A3B) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Unable to bind script sdsMCMSkillBoost to alias PlayerAlias on quest sdsSkillConfig (B90012C4) because their base types do not match
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property City on script mf_simplejob_locationchance attached to alias thePlayer on quest mf_Prostitute_SimpleJob (BB001D9C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property Town on script mf_simplejob_locationchance attached to alias thePlayer on quest mf_Prostitute_SimpleJob (BB001D9C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] Error: Property Pages on script sluts_mcm attached to sluts_kicker (820012C6) cannot be initialized because the value is the incorrect type
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property Cedran on script HorseMarkarth attached to  (00098493) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property Nec2 on script TerynneAliasScript attached to TerynneQuest (57377D79) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property Nec1 on script TerynneAliasScript attached to TerynneQuest (57377D79) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property Nec3 on script TerynneAliasScript attached to TerynneQuest (57377D79) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property Vex on script HorseRiften attached to  (000984A1) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property Girl on script sluts_test_cart_cross attached to  (8200EBD0) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property SSLV_SlaveOutfit2 on script sslv_configscr attached to SSLV_Config (7C02FF82) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:49AM] warning: Property Devices on script SLV_VersionCheck attached to SLV_Menu (7A001828) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property isDoggyPlayer on script daf_rascript attached to alias ra on quest daf_pfcq (D500333B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] Error: Element of property DeflationPose on script ndun_configquest_scr attached to ndun_ConfigQuest (BF0012C5) cannot be bound because  (0E026D68) is not the right type
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] Error: Element of property DeflationPose on script ndun_configquest_scr attached to ndun_ConfigQuest (BF0012C5) cannot be bound because  (0E026D69) is not the right type
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] Error: Element of property DeflationPose on script ndun_configquest_scr attached to ndun_ConfigQuest (BF0012C5) cannot be bound because  (0E026D69) is not the right type
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property thisQuest on script mf_solicitprostitute attached to mf_SoliciteProstitute (BB00BA71) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property bModActive on script jaxonzenhgrab attached to JaxonzEnhGrabUpdateQuest (CF000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property conversationGlobal on script FacelightMCM attached to FLP_Quest (F1000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property FreeformMarkarthO on script mdcuestartscript attached to  (571EC62D) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] Error: Property Sexlab on script sexlabstopcombatquestscript attached to StopCombatQuest (D4000D62) cannot be bound because StopCombatQuest (D4000D62) is not the right type
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property DungeonKey on script dunAngarvundeMedresiScript attached to alias Medresi on quest dunAngarvundeQST (0007EDE5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property iVulnerableFurniture on script crdemcmscript attached to crdeMCM (BA00BF4F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property dunArcherQST on script WilliamTellArrow3dnpc attached to  (572E1E29) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property flArrows on script WilliamTellArrow3dnpc attached to  (572E1E29) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property myActor on script WilliamTellArrow3dnpc attached to  (572E1E29) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property PredatorFaction on script zzestruschaurushachlingfeedscript attached to  (9E04F2A4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property Axe on script DLC2DBAncientDragonbornSCRIPT attached to  (0401DC33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] Error: Property Alias_cc on script QF_daf_fcq_020022F5 attached to daf_fcq (D50022F5) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (1) on <NULL quest> (D50022F5) is not the right type
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property SSv3_HirelingApproaching on script SSv3HirelingRecurringAlias attached to alias HirelingRecurring on quest SSv2NPCs (62000D63) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[03/14/2020 - 10:36:50AM] warning: Property Horse on script HorseWhiterun attached to  (760C43D7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
 

 

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11 hours ago, Nymra said:


I uncheck continue game, cant hurt i guess.... 

Wont hurt and probably wont solve your problems but they are by the same person and one is the successor to the other. If you use mrst's animation limit crash fix thing, check his description page as I think he prefers one over the other for some reason. I don't use his fix (don't need it) so I can't be more exact.

 

11 hours ago, Nymra said:

according to the sources all is set correctly.

I meant physically check, i.e. make sure you didn't do any typos etc.

 

Your Papyrus log has nothing to do with CTDs.

 

The way things are looking at the moment is that you are going to have to do it the boring way. Uninstall all mods confirm that the vanilla game works and then add things a few at a time, testing as you go.

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Sounds like some problem with hdt setup when you installed new body mod, falling through the world and fps drop on cell change typical problems with physics setup being screwed up.

If game worked fine from old profile you brought from old pc then it would seem likely something was installed wrong in creating the new profile.

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On 3/14/2020 at 6:33 PM, Grey Cloud said:

Have you tried without this, i.e. gone back to your old body (?)? A lot of people seem to have problems with it.

 

On 3/14/2020 at 9:50 PM, RW311 said:

Sounds like some problem with hdt setup when you installed new body mod, falling through the world and fps drop on cell change typical problems with physics setup being screwed up.

If game worked fine from old profile you brought from old pc then it would seem likely something was installed wrong in creating the new profile.

I reinstalled the old Animated Pussy 4.0 now. 

Still get the message ?
So at least it seems it is not the body. 

What I would like to know: 
Is Crash Fixes even required? I mean, I can do the game with UseOSallocators = 0 and then I dont get the CrashFixes messages. 
Or does this just mean that I run a broken game and CrashFixes is prevented to tell me about it?

I created a very reduced profile with only 71 esps and barely any mod active and it seems the message is not showing up. 
Can this also be ENB related problem? I understand ENB is also doing alot about memory? 

 

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13 minutes ago, Nymra said:

Is Crash Fixes even required?

Crash fixes isn't only a memory allocator.

If you deactivate the memory allocator part it won't interfere with other ways to manage memory.

BUT:

It is still needed to remove the vanilla 65k string limit from your saves and you will surpass that limit rather quick.

On my minimal Setups with "only" Sexlab, DD and ZAP I start with 58k already.

 

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3 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Crash fixes isn't only a memory allocator.

If you deactivate the memory allocator part it won't interfere with other ways to manage memory.

BUT:

It is still needed to remove the vanilla 65k string limit from your saves and you will surpass that limit rather quick.

On my minimal Setups with "only" Sexlab, DD and ZAP I start with 58k already.

 

can you be more specific?

you mean 

Crash Fixes

UseOSAllocators=1

AlignHeapAllocate=1

 

is required for the string limit to go away? 
Or is it sufficient to just have Crash Fixes intalled with both these values = 0? 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Nymra said:

UseOSAllocators=1

AlignHeapAllocate=1

Those are memory related.

So you can deactivate those if you use another way to allocate memory (via enblocal.ini for example)

 

The save game string limit is unrelated to the memory allocation = you can use crash fixes for the string limit fix only

Also crash fixes adds more fixes for the vanilla game in addition to the memory allocation feature and the string limit removal.

 

(also you're up early too, to get your modding fix lol)

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Could be a conflict due to enblocal ini and crash fixes. You could post ini text to see if something obvious there. I don't use os allocators on because when I reinstalled game I could not get it to even launch with that set but I never messed with it because game is perfectly stable just using enbboost and skse memory settings.

The crash fixes message appears if you have certain issues even if os allocators is not on so it does not mean you are able to run broken game by not letting crash fixes manage memory.

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On 3/14/2020 at 1:44 AM, Nymra said:

I often get CTD on New Game, with or without FNIS overwrite folder ticked, with or without Animation Loading Fix ticked etc. (Im pretty sure I sorted out it beeing a FNIS or anim problem)

I recently encountered the same problem. It was caused by usage of codecvt function by StorageUtil. The problem is platform specific, so it's pretty possible to be appeared after PC and OS change. Try to remove PapyrusUtil.dll and check if the CTD on new game creation will happen.

 

On 3/14/2020 at 1:44 AM, Nymra said:

if I get to the point where I can actually do stuff, I also get crashes on Save (save and reload after messages end)

Possible to be memory block overflow caused by script trashing. Or serialization fail. I'd recommend to download vmmap, check your block sizes and overall memory usage by the game. 

 

On 3/14/2020 at 1:44 AM, Nymra said:

sometimes when it FINALLY loads I am in a black space falling, HDT is beginning to produce long stripes...

Sounds like ContinueGameNoCrash's bug. If you use it and create a new game you have to save and reload it twice (press F5 -> F9 -> F9), then it will work normally. 

 

On 3/14/2020 at 1:44 AM, Nymra said:

But now I have a very good PC now and the problems really shouldnt be there.

Skyrim doesn't think so, lol.

 

And my own recipe what to do if something goes wrong.

Find exact algorithm of your actions which causes CTD (CTD on save and load in your case). Disable all mods with your mod manager, start a new game again and check if these problems still happen. If they don't happen then you found it, some mod causes this. Enable your esp's until you find the problematic one. And to save your time i recommend to enable/disable them with batches.

 

If even without esp's problems still happen, disable (temporary remove) all SKSE dlls. If it helps do the same with them as with esp's to find the problematic one. 

If problems still hapen without mods and dll's then it's highly likely an ENB or SKSE problem. Try to start the game with TESV.exe instead of skse launcher (should work ok without mods enabled). If didn't help, then remove d3d9.dll what will completely disable enb. 

 

If nothing of these helped you have something broken in your Data. Rename "meshes" folder to "meshes1" and "textures" to "textures1", so the game will not load your meshes and textures, then try to start the game.  

 

If even this didn't help, it's possible to be AV affection, OS specific problem, or hardware malfunction. 

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17 hours ago, mrsrt said:

 

I now just went back to installing All-in-One Animated Pussy instead of Bakas BHUNPB. Will try the last one again, but maybe on my planned SSE build,... lets see.

As for the "sudden FPS drop": 

I still got that one. 
And I got the Papyrus log. 
But I cannot read it. So I have no idea what causes the massive stack dump.
See attachment. 

This is the point where the dump starts. Does that mean anything?
(I did not have MCMCustom Order installed when the problems first happened, yet it now appears on top of the stack dump list here. 
Just not sure if its connected or two seperate problems). 

[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM] SLAX - GetActorExposure END   Bandit Outlaw returns 16.907532
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM] Suspended stack count is over our warning threshold, dumping stacks:
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM] VM is freezing...
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM] VM is frozen
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM] Dumping stack 52642:
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM]     Frame count: 0 (Page count: 0)
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM]     State: Waiting on other stack for call (Freeze state: Freezing)
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM]     Type: Normal
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM]     Return register: None
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM]     Has stack callback: No
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM]     Stack trace:
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM]         [MCMCustomOrder (EF000D62)].MCMCustomOrder.OnConfigManagerReset() - (requested call)
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM]             [param 0]: "SKICP_configManagerReset"
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM]             [param 1]: ""
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM]             [param 2]: 0.000000
[03/17/2020 - 11:38:38PM]             [param 3]: [SKI_QF_ConfigManagerInstance <SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (18000802)>]

Papyrus.0.log

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I uninstalled MCM Custom order, cleaned the save, loaded the game...

I noticed this time the lag starts when I open console and use teachword. At least in this particular case, two times in a row, but the stack dump looks different nonetheless.

its all about the ski_configmanagerinstance now 
can this be connected to the MCM custom order still? I mean its about the MCMs and the ski quest is the MCM no? 

Will try setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1 and see...

Papyrus.0.log

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Get rid of mods "_tapmcm" and "BWANPC" scripts belong to. It looks like infinite recursion and/or thread trashing. Probably with some native calls as it affects on fps. And start a new game for each test, don't try to clean up existen saves, at least until the problem solved.

 

9 hours ago, Nymra said:

can this be connected to the MCM custom order still? I mean its about the MCMs and the ski quest is the MCM no? 

Any script can do this. 

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On 3/18/2020 at 9:48 AM, mrsrt said:

Get rid of mods "_tapmcm" and "BWANPC" scripts belong to. It looks like infinite recursion and/or thread trashing. Probably with some native calls as it affects on fps. And start a new game for each test, don't try to clean up existen saves, at least until the problem solved.

 

Any script can do this. 

_tapmcm is from Traps and Pitfalls, hmm. 
Ok, can live without that.

but BWANPC is from Blushing when aroused... that is a damn nice mod that I would not want to miss. I also think its quite a common mod. :(
 

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4 hours ago, Nymra said:

_tapmcm is from Traps and Pitfalls, hmm. 
Ok, can live without that.

but BWANPC is from Blushing when aroused... that is a damn nice mod that I would not want to miss. I also think its quite a common mod. :(
 

It's just for test purpose to find out what exactly causes your problems. Normally, these mods shouldn't give any problems (i hope, lol). 

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5 hours ago, mrsrt said:

It's just for test purpose to find out what exactly causes your problems. Normally, these mods shouldn't give any problems (i hope, lol). 

removed traps and pitfalls (it doesent hurt sadly, too many issues anyway),

blushing  when aroused I found a "blush reduction step thingy" which applied a fade every 0,2 seconds. I put this to 1 sec and see. 
at least the last playtest had no issues (no CTD, no FPS drop), was the same save. will continue testing and then make a new game. 

thx so far. step by step, round the wall, in the pit, yay ya luv you allll, da da da da...
 

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