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I come to expect regular crashes from oblivion when running around 50 mods.  Nothing specific that can be narrowed down to a particular mod, just random crashes every 10-30 minutes.  It's not my current set of mods either because it is a common theme on all my heavily modded Oblivion play throughs with completely different groups of mods and is something I have just learned to live with.  Is there anything that can be done to minimise this other than playing with less mods?  Does everyone have this problem?

 

Can large amounts of high-res textures cause crashes?  I've got a pretty powerful machine and have always installed a compilation of all the high-res texture packs I can find along with the 4Gb patch.  My fps is fine and Oblivion probably looks better than Skyrim in a lot of areas, but can large amount of textures, with no associated esm's or esp's, cause problems for the engine if it's not a problem for your computer?

 

Same query applies to Skyrim.  Strangely my game with the most mods, New Vegas at 35Gb, never ever crashes.

Posted

Depending on your OS (64bit or 32bit) the 4gb patch may not be doing anything for you.  Now if you do have a 64bit OS and you have more than 4gb of memory then you should be seeing some benefits.  Unfortunately everything for oblivion is bottle-necked by your CPU.   Oblivion will only use 1 core so if you don't have a decently high GHz speed on it then you are stymied. 

 

Streamline 3.1 and OSR (oblivion stutter remover) can help a great deal to purge your memory and efficiently manage your heaps.

 

I run more than 50 plugins and I rarely crash.  I generally play for 3-5 hours before I just get tired and save\exit, all without crashing.

 

Proper load order, cleaning things with Tes4edit, the above 2 utilities, and utilizing a bashed patch should have you relatively crash free with a decent computer. 

 

My current LO:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Kaleah.esm  [Version 1.0]
02  Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esm  [Version 1.0]
03  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
05  CURP_Controller.esm
06  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
07  x117race.esm
08  Lovers with PK.esm
09  LoversCreature.esm
0A  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
0B  Toaster Says Share v3.esm
0C  BreakUndies.esm
0D  HorseCombatMaster.esm
0E  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.2.3]
**  Oblivion Vwalk.esp
0F  Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp  [Version 1.0]
10  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
11  Idle Dialogue.esp
12  Arena_Ring_V2.esp
++  NoGuildmasterKick.esp
13  Living Economy.esp
14  Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp
15  Streamline 3.1.esp
16  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9]
17  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]
18  DLCHorseArmor.esp
19  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1A  DLCSpellTomes.esp
1B  Slof's Boners! v5.esp
1C  superSP_fatigue_restore_ring.esp
1D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
1E  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]
1F  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]
20  KvatchAftermath.esp
21  KnightlyArmory.esp
22  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]
23  TalosBridgeGateHouse.esp
24  300_KillTheDB.esp
25  Hentai Mania.esp
26  TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp
27  Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp
28  Oblivion Gate Standard 1_2.esp
29  WSL_Redone.esp
2A  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
2B  DLCFrostcrag.esp
2C  Knights.esp
2D  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 7.3]
2E  HoarfrostCastle.esp
2F  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
++  EDI - Aggression Fix.esp
30  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
31  Walkabout.esp
32  Rascals Rest Cave.esp
33  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
34  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp
35  FightersGuildContracts.esp
36  Dremora Churl Addon.esp
37  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]
38  P1DKeyChainSI Merged.esp
39  Colourwheels Sexy Ayelid Shrine.esp
3A  Colourwheels Sexy Skyrim Outpost HGEC.esp
3B  Oblivion Gate Closer Spell V2.esp
3C  RestoreAllAttributesSpell.esp
3D  BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp
3E  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
3F  zzEstrus.esp
40  SetEssentialActors.esp
41  SetBody.esp
42  AinmhiRace.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
**  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++  x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
43  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
44  Real_Mannequin.esp
45  From2ch Lives.esp
46  Ta22's 01Army.esp
47  117NPCs.esp
48  From2ch Lives Boss.esp
49  F2LHideRaces.esp
4A  F2LAddon_MSElves.esp
4B  FutaPriory.esp
4C  F2LMiqoteAddon.esp
4D  DKImperials.esp
4E  CompanionshipRing.esp
4F  KW-AlliesPlayNicer.esp
50  Colourwheels Sexy Oblivion OverHaul.esp
51  ZUAmberMadnessOverhaul.esp
52  ZUSIO-Map MarkerOverhaul SI-patch.esp
53  SMYB Female Only.esp
54  Smarter Bandits.esp
55  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
56  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
57  LoversBed.esp
58  LoversRaperS.esp
59  LoversJoburg.esp
5A  LoversBiko.esp
5B  LoversProstitute.esp  [Version 0.25a]
5C  LoversClubCats.esp
5D  LoversClubCatsSx.esp
5E  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96]
5F  LoversPayBandit.esp
60  LoversCreature.esp
61  LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
62  LoversMB2.esp
63  LoversStupidNpc.esp
64  LoversSlaveTrader.esp
65  LSTBravilUnderground.esp
66  Nitiren's Genji Armor2.esp
++  HGEC Kajiits.esp
++  Slof's Manly Stride.esp
67  Ahtata Arquamer female got hair.esp
68  MadCompanionshipSpells.esp  [Version 2.5]
69  MCS extension.esp
6A  zBUArmors.esp
6B  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]
6C  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.2.3]
6D  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 5.2.1]
6E  Better Imperial City - OMG.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
**  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.2.3]
6F  Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp  [Version 4.8.4]
**  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp  [Version 4.9.0]
70  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
71  Alternative Start for Better Cities Fix.esp
**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp
**  Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0 Vwalk.esp
**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp
**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp
**  Knights Vwalk.esp
**  HoarfrostCastle Vwalk.esp
**  Hentai Mania Vwalk.esp
**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp
**  Vampire Hunting - Order Of The Virtuous Blood Vwalk.esp
**  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts Vwalk.esp
**  ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp
**  Better Cities Resources Vwalk.esp
**  Better Cities Full Vwalk.esp
72  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
73  xeosp++.esp
74  xeosp++ Vwalk.esp
75  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
76  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
77  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
78  Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp

 

 

Posted

I hardly at all get any crashes unless I'm testing mods or having issues with them,I run over 200 mods,including lovers related and I normally don't get a single crash.

There are OBSE .dll files avaliable in the oblivionnexus that avoid crashes and give you a bigger chance of exiting the game/loading another save while playing without those error demons,I used to have crashes when loading a save for the second time,but now with them I just hear a sound while loading  and nothing else,I suggest people who have the same problem I had to try to fnd them,I'm sorry but I have no idea what are the download links anymore.

Posted

I think I have that already Baconsama if you are referring to FastExit2.dll.  I do get a background 'ding' occasionally when it prevents a crash, but crashes are still far more common.

 

Thanks for the advice gregathit.  I had tried Streamline before but could not get it to work without a CTD on launch for some reason.  I never bothered with it since as I assumed it was only useful for lower end PCs.  Giving it another go now and it seems to work this time and it does seem less stuttery and no crashes so far...  If this has solved all my problems so simply I wish I had asked this question years ago.

Posted

ive got rougly 170 active plugins at the moment, and if you count merged mods/only texture and mesh mods, ive probably got well over 300, and i generally dont crash at all.

 

i had a similer issue to yours though not to long ago, before i took to merging alot of my mods. the "crashing after a set period of time in game but wasnt related to any specific mod" was my system hitting its soft mod cap, maybe your computer isnt powerful enough to run the mods you have installed, try pulling 5 or 10 plugins out and see if things clear up more if you still crash with streamline installed.

Posted

I crash after playing for awhile (3 hours+), but my crashes have been massively reduced since I stopped using CM Partners. I'm not sure if that was the cause but it seems to be the solution. I used Mad Companionship Spells now. :D

Posted

Mine only crashes if massive orgies start happening due to Jorsburg or other Lovers plugin.  But the annoying problem I'm having is getting the "Oblivion has stopped responding" or whatever message after exiting the game, especially after 2~3 hour sessions.  Not a big problem but annoying.

Posted

Fastexit will fix that problem stupidgajin, just download it off the Nexus and put it in your OBSE plugin directory. And my Oblivion used to crash constantly with "The Nvidia driver has stopped responding and has been restarted" error under Windows 7 till MSI finally came out with a BIOS upgrade that seems to have fixed it.

Posted

I can play 2-3 hours before the game will blink to desktop.  Usually I'm just running around when it crashes - no error message.  Sometimes it's on a door transition and once on a Streamsave.  I have 132 active mods, a good chuck of which are Unique Landscapes/Better Cities related.  I run OSR, Streamline, FastExit...  I just save often

Posted

if you could precise what sort of crash (what the pc tells you )!

 

i mean exe crash means often you reach a memory peak or can be a problem with your obse plugins (menuq / pluggy hud ) need the last update .

 

Other crash can be a nif file that is making a problem in game but more often you need to look at your load order      this is a priority . Perhaps need also to update some esm .

 

OBGE is good for multiproc add OSR (have to read the setting part to profit from this to the best) .

 

I have written about exe crash with win7 64   in the technical thread it might interrest you.

Posted (edited)

Work arounds like 'fast exit' fix the symptom but NOT the problem, which is usually a buggy mod.

 

From http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php/Crashes (Deleted References)

"If you delete any vanilla (Oblivion.esm) refs and another mod loads after yours that does anything with those refs that you deleted, the player will very likely get a crash on exit and/or a crash when reloading with a savegame made in another cell than the one he's currently in.

 

The solution is to never delete any vanilla (Oblivion.esm) refs. Move them and/or set them to be Initially Disabled instead. This won't work for an object with Parent References, so be sure to remove the Parent Reference from the object."

 

Note that Fast Exit WON'T help you if the corruption evolves to Crash-On-Load.

 

Honestly, Oblivion is pretty stable, UNLESS you have buggy mods. Crashes = inspect your mods. Total number of mods doesn't matter too much as long as you stay below 254. The quality of those mods matters a lot.

Edited by Symon
Posted

Depending on your OS (64bit or 32bit) the 4gb patch may not be doing anything for you.  Now if you do have a 64bit OS and you have more than 4gb of memory then you should be seeing some benefits.  Unfortunately everything for oblivion is bottle-necked by your CPU.   Oblivion will only use 1 core so if you don't have a decently high GHz speed on it then you are stymied. 

 

Streamline 3.1 and OSR (oblivion stutter remover) can help a great deal to purge your memory and efficiently manage your heaps.

 

I run more than 50 plugins and I rarely crash.  I generally play for 3-5 hours before I just get tired and save\exit, all without crashing.

 

Proper load order, cleaning things with Tes4edit, the above 2 utilities, and utilizing a bashed patch should have you relatively crash free with a decent computer. 

 

My current LO:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Kaleah.esm  [Version 1.0]
02  Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esm  [Version 1.0]
03  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
05  CURP_Controller.esm
06  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
07  x117race.esm
08  Lovers with PK.esm
09  LoversCreature.esm
0A  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
0B  Toaster Says Share v3.esm
0C  BreakUndies.esm
0D  HorseCombatMaster.esm
0E  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.2.3]
**  Oblivion Vwalk.esp
0F  Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp  [Version 1.0]
10  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
11  Idle Dialogue.esp
12  Arena_Ring_V2.esp
++  NoGuildmasterKick.esp
13  Living Economy.esp
14  Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp
15  Streamline 3.1.esp
16  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9]
17  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]
18  DLCHorseArmor.esp
19  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1A  DLCSpellTomes.esp
1B  Slof's Boners! v5.esp
1C  superSP_fatigue_restore_ring.esp
1D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
1E  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]
1F  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]
20  KvatchAftermath.esp
21  KnightlyArmory.esp
22  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]
23  TalosBridgeGateHouse.esp
24  300_KillTheDB.esp
25  Hentai Mania.esp
26  TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp
27  Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp
28  Oblivion Gate Standard 1_2.esp
29  WSL_Redone.esp
2A  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
2B  DLCFrostcrag.esp
2C  Knights.esp
2D  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 7.3]
2E  HoarfrostCastle.esp
2F  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
++  EDI - Aggression Fix.esp
30  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
31  Walkabout.esp
32  Rascals Rest Cave.esp
33  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
34  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp
35  FightersGuildContracts.esp
36  Dremora Churl Addon.esp
37  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]
38  P1DKeyChainSI Merged.esp
39  Colourwheels Sexy Ayelid Shrine.esp
3A  Colourwheels Sexy Skyrim Outpost HGEC.esp
3B  Oblivion Gate Closer Spell V2.esp
3C  RestoreAllAttributesSpell.esp
3D  BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp
3E  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
3F  zzEstrus.esp
40  SetEssentialActors.esp
41  SetBody.esp
42  AinmhiRace.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
**  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++  x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
43  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
44  Real_Mannequin.esp
45  From2ch Lives.esp
46  Ta22's 01Army.esp
47  117NPCs.esp
48  From2ch Lives Boss.esp
49  F2LHideRaces.esp
4A  F2LAddon_MSElves.esp
4B  FutaPriory.esp
4C  F2LMiqoteAddon.esp
4D  DKImperials.esp
4E  CompanionshipRing.esp
4F  KW-AlliesPlayNicer.esp
50  Colourwheels Sexy Oblivion OverHaul.esp
51  ZUAmberMadnessOverhaul.esp
52  ZUSIO-Map MarkerOverhaul SI-patch.esp
53  SMYB Female Only.esp
54  Smarter Bandits.esp
55  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
56  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
57  LoversBed.esp
58  LoversRaperS.esp
59  LoversJoburg.esp
5A  LoversBiko.esp
5B  LoversProstitute.esp  [Version 0.25a]
5C  LoversClubCats.esp
5D  LoversClubCatsSx.esp
5E  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96]
5F  LoversPayBandit.esp
60  LoversCreature.esp
61  LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
62  LoversMB2.esp
63  LoversStupidNpc.esp
64  LoversSlaveTrader.esp
65  LSTBravilUnderground.esp
66  Nitiren's Genji Armor2.esp
++  HGEC Kajiits.esp
++  Slof's Manly Stride.esp
67  Ahtata Arquamer female got hair.esp
68  MadCompanionshipSpells.esp  [Version 2.5]
69  MCS extension.esp
6A  zBUArmors.esp
6B  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]
6C  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.2.3]
6D  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 5.2.1]
6E  Better Imperial City - OMG.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
**  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.2.3]
6F  Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp  [Version 4.8.4]
**  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp  [Version 4.9.0]
70  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
71  Alternative Start for Better Cities Fix.esp
**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp
**  Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0 Vwalk.esp
**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp
**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp
**  Knights Vwalk.esp
**  HoarfrostCastle Vwalk.esp
**  Hentai Mania Vwalk.esp
**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp
**  Vampire Hunting - Order Of The Virtuous Blood Vwalk.esp
**  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts Vwalk.esp
**  ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp
**  Better Cities Resources Vwalk.esp
**  Better Cities Full Vwalk.esp
72  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
73  xeosp++.esp
74  xeosp++ Vwalk.esp
75  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
76  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
77  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
78  Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp

 

 

 

Greg - when you rebuild your bashed patch you don't let bashed patch touch any of the Deadly Reflex plugins?

http://rembrandt2.exblog.jp/10270391/

What does FutaPriory do?

Posted

I crash after playing for awhile (3 hours+), but my crashes have been massively reduced since I stopped using CM Partners. I'm not sure if that was the cause but it seems to be the solution. I used Mad Companionship Spells now. :D

 

CM Partners was the culprit for all those crashes in my installation too it seems.

Deactivated it and no crash in about 2 hours. Got a crashes every 10-60mins before.

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

eer I crash ever 5 minutes, just running around, going from a cell to a new cell, fast travel....Can't get me head around this bashed patch stuff, get told to do this and do that.. like many. patience is not my strong point, mainly if I update my lovers its CTD this is with a new save game so I have stuck with Lovers with PK rev91 AIO 2.8 this gives me no trouble.....Be good if the resource and data packages were put together into a nice little package and not have to go all over the site to find the ones you need..

Guest ThatOne
Posted

Close to 130gb on my oblivion install, 247 mods and no crashes. :angel:

Posted

Skynet424,

 

The resource and base pack ARE in a nice little package and it is quite easy to find both:

1. Resource: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22-lovers-resource-pack-v2-v3/

2. Base: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6-lovers-with-pk/

 

All the other plugins are easy to find as well with the direct link page here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6799-lovers-plugin-index-with-direct-links/

OK Greg done all that, just adding a motion that is missing #8, but now my womb and sperm are no longer there nor show up after having nookie? also what HUD do I now need.

Posted

Close to 130gb on my oblivion install, 247 mods and no crashes. :angel:

130gb is simply amazing!

Anyway size of oblivion folder does not matter. Quality of each mod matters.

Now, I myself am using CleanQuit, whithout it my oblivion crashes when exit, *some* of my mods must be doing something very stupid thing. Like deleting vanilla references.

But I have no spare power to spot them and fix each of them...sad.

Guest Spikes
Posted

Mine is 28,4 Gbs and still growing, haven't added any clothes yet, only Tie, MBP++ ,story mods, Monstegirl -CoC (amazing!) and Hentaimania^

Predicting around 60 Gbs,when i learn how to add Xeosp++, clothes -textures etc.

 

I dc sometimes on doors and fast travel,dunno why though. Pluggy is 125c,renamed to _HUD, to avoid possible saves problem with newer pluggys (read in bethesda forums 132 might have some ram leaks but who knows)  and experimenting with Estrus older/newer edition for bloating issues.One problem i have,is that my saves get bigger by 2 kbs/each minute (i save every minute to test,character stays still on same place and i use /pcb before saving). 

 

130 GB oblivion is simply EPIC!!. Isn't such a big game slagish with so much stuff?

 

Posted

Size is not necessarily relevant to performance as Movomo correctly stated.  It depends far more on what you have installed than "how much".  Mine is sitting at 80.2 GB at the moment and I get 60+ FPS everywhere but the waterfront.  Then it drops to 45 FPS or so, when there are lots of NPC's are wandering about.

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