Next-gen , No used games

[Veta]

This being a topic of controversy around the web ; I just wanted to post my opinion on why I think this would be a stupid Idea.

 

Steam is often brought as an example of a successful company who doesn't allow you to trade used games , however that is a very blunt point to make since steam is only a digital distributor and thus would not make any money by allowing used games , making up for the inconvenience with the amazing Steam Sales ( I bought Deus Ex :Human revolution for 2 euros  ). On the contrary console prices for triple A ,even digitally don't drop below 20 (*place currency here) .

 

As for the second and most important part on the subject Accessibility using once more Steam as an example. I can log into a new or different computer and I can still play my games; On consoles though that would not work, in case your console broke or had malfunction ,leading you to buy a new one would that also mean that you'd have to re-buy all of your already owned games ? 

 

As for requiring constant internet connection ,It is just too stupid of an idea to even comment on .

[LordJerle]

Valve is making a console that runs off of steam, actually... 

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/01/08/news-valve-piston-console-details-revealed

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/gaming/consoles/why-valves-steam-box-is-a-console-killer-1124160

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/hands-on-with-the-xi3-piston-and-7-series-is-this-valves-console/

 

This topic just gained more relevance.

[Veta]

Can't really see why valve would do that other than for casual gamers , and we all know how that turns out ( games start to suck) . I dont see why buy other hardware when I already own a PC , More consoles means for exclusive games I wont be able to play.

[Kamen Rider Kuuga]

Most of my games are used. This is because most of the games I buy are old and out of print. If a given console blocks used sales, then there's no point in my buying it in the future.

[polluxval]

they should keep it the same way. if something works fine, why would they change it? since the times of nintendo i rented games before thinking on buying them and also i went to flea markets to get used games (before internet existed) and that worked just fine. when cd/dvds came it was a little more difficult as they tend to fail more often and they are easily scratched but that doesnt stopped the old merchant trade style. sometimes you get lucky and could find a very good game for a very cheap price (like i had once, kiddis buying games like L.A. Noir and selling them for $20 a couple of weeks after the release date).

so i vote for the popular old school. used doesnt mean its bad.

i really hope next gen consoles dont get PSPsyndrome.

[Kamen Rider Kuuga]

Because everybody in the gaming market has their head up their ass and think that they're the only industry EVER to have their products resold. You don't see car makers saying "In the next model years, we'll make it so that if a car is ever to be resold, the engine will destroy itself!", or a cell phone maker say "If you try to resell this, the phone will brick itself!".

 

Instead of crying about used games, maybe they should focus on, you know, making quality products that are worth the 60 bucks they charge? Not price gouge the consumer with day one DLC (OR ON THE FUCKING DISC DLC LIKE CAPCOM THE FUCKERS)? Not punish the paying man with DRM that doesn't bother effect pirates? Actually adjust prices monthly to rout used prices? Keep printing games for longer, like movies on DVD, and making them cheaper so they get contentious sales?

 

You know, crazy little things.

[gregathit]

Actually almost all industries have in the past cried about used sales killing them.  Hell some are still crying to this day.

Fortunately very few industries have been successful at stopping or even regulating this. 

 

Eventually games and software makers will be forced to conform just like everyone else.  What most have found is that if they do try to regulate used sales of things that are in demand then folks will turn to the black market which tweaks the nipples of the governments (cause no matter who does or doesn't make a profit the GOV MUST GET THEIRS) so then you have bureaucratic pressure forcing used sales to be allowed.  After all if you can't stop something you just tax it, at least that seems to be the Gov's MO.  Now of course demand is a key issue here.  If there is enough demand then the pressure for the legal formation of a market forces the issue to be addressed much faster.  If there is little demand then it might get ignored for a long time or even just brushed off.

 

Besides this whole retard logic of game makers is just a red herring.  What they really want is total and complete control.  It isn't about them loosing money, it never has been.  For F's sake if they are "loosing" money the way they claim, why is it that game makers are hiring Hollywood actors to read the dialogue lines?  Those folks DON'T work cheap!  Like anything else it is about power.  They are wanting to assert the claim that you do not own the game\software that you buy, you are merely renting it.  If they can manage to talk the gov into that then they can effectively bar used sales and take even more abusive action such as making you pay monthly\yearly fees to continue to use their products.

 

The time for push back from consumers now.  Allowing the gaming industry to bar used sales of any product you purchase is opening Pandora's box.  As we all know, nothing good has ever come from opening that particular box........

[polluxval]

if would wish for a selfdestruct car in case companies apply this rule on the future. oh, the fun.

[Halstrom]

We'll just have to start a new Email & Steam account for every game, then sell off the email & steam account together

 

If they are going to save a crap load of money in manufacture, packaging & distribution, they need to pass that on to the consumer, we shouldn't pay the same price for a Shop product as a download on the internet.

 

Cars have been going down this direction for the last 10 years, try finding a wrecking yard with cars more than 10yo nowdays. Try buying even an air filter for some 10yo cars. Plastic bits start to fall off and fade by 5 years.

[windpl]

We'll just have to start a new Email & Steam account for every game, then sell off the email & steam account together

 

If they are going to save a crap load of money in manufacture, packaging & distribution, they need to pass that on to the consumer, we shouldn't pay the same price for a Shop product as a download on the internet.

 

Cars have been going down this direction for the last 10 years, try finding a wrecking yard with cars more than 10yo nowdays. Try buying even an air filter for some 10yo cars. Plastic bits start to fall off and fade by 5 years.

 

Well that would be hard for example I have something like 200+ games on steam already. 

 

Not so long ago I think 15 years, printers was rig fixed by producer to malfunction after set period of time. I can't recall the manufacturer, but it was one of big ones on that time.

 

Used marked is like salt in distributors eye. Most of people who buy used games wouldn't pay full price for game even if there was no choose. But of cores distributors know better, and they believe to their big numbers in statistic.

 

With flooding f2p games, even on console they want still to force people to this idea? This is most dump idea ever, It would work but 10 years ago - now is to late, now this idea is just sailing to backwater.

[LordJerle]

Ten years ago, broadband penetration wasn't 1/100th of what it is today, though.

[Kamen Rider Kuuga]

There are games right now that I wish I could pay new price over used price; an example would be Infinite Space for the DS. I would gladly pay 60 USD new for a game that, as just a cart, sells for nearly that much used! Another would be Bleach: The 3rd Phantom; that fucker can go for 100 used, just the cart.

[leddis3]

Of course they turn what should be a convenience (the spread of broadband and fast, cheap internet connections) into an albatross around our necks with online authentications and the absurd notion of constant online connections for single player games.