ger4 Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 When you add support for females, could you have an option to set the defender's body to naked during sex? This would help when using a body replacers like this one have "built in" underwear.
87Karan Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Hi folks, I have been experimenting with this mod all last night and have not been able to get it to work properly - probably I am missing something obvious. Before using Setbody Reloaded I have had Setbody_2chEdition TSpec installed. With this mod I can set the bodies of NPC's and have BBB physics on the breasts. I have tried installing Setbody Reloaded and always get the following error dialogue when loading a save: "[LoversSetBody][ERROR]LoversSetBody needs SetBody 2ch Edition!!!" Sometimes, despite this dialogue appearing, the game loads the spells "Set Body" and "Set Body Self", however neither of these spells have any function. Also BBB no longer works when I have Setbody Reloaded installed. My load order is the following: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 03 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 04 Lovers with PK.esm 05 TamagoClub.esm 06 HiyokoClub.esm 07 LoversCreature.esm 08 x117race.esm 09 UndiesUnderneath.esm 0A RealisticLeveling.esm 0B EURN.esp 0C RaceCompatibilityForEurn.esp 0D MbpGirlAltmer.esp 0E MbpGirlBosmer.esp 0F MbpGirlBreton.esp 10 MbpGirlImp.esp 11 MbpGirlKhajiit.esp 12 MbpGirlNord.esp 13 MbpGirlRed.esp 14 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.1] 15 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 16 UOPS Additional Changes.esp 17 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 18 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 19 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0] 1A USIPS Additional Changes.esp 1B AFK_PrayerIdles.esp [Version 1.0] 1C Damsels In Distress.esp 1D Populated Prisons.esp 1E DLCHorseArmor.esp 1F DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 20 DLCOrrery.esp 21 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 22 DLCVileLair.esp 23 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 24 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 25 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 26 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 27 MaternityClothes.esp 28 Slof's Horses Base.esp 29 Slof's Extra Horses.esp 2A Slof's Extra Horses 2.esp 2B AT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.esp 2C DLCThievesDen.esp 2D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 2E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2F Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 30 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] 31 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] 32 FutaPriory.esp 33 Housewives v101.esp 34 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp 35 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 36 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 37 DLCFrostcrag.esp 38 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 39 Knights.esp 3A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] 3B Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp 3C Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 3D Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp 3E Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp 3F CHILDREN ANNUAD.esp 40 MassA.I.esp 41 Real_Mannequin.esp 42 LoversSummonRapeman.esp 43 LoversNTRburglar.esp 44 LoversSkirtFlipper.esp 45 TamagoBreak.esp 46 TamagoNews.esp 47 TamagoShop.esp 48 TamagoTopic.esp 49 TamagoConfide.esp 4A LoversTamagoClub.esp 4B LoversEncounter.esp 4C HiyokoGenetics.esp 4D HiyokoGenerator.esp 4E HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp 4F HiyokoQuestTarget.esp 50 TamagoSetBody.esp 51 LoversAdultYield.esp 52 LoversCalm.esp 53 LoversSetBody.esp 54 LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0] 55 LoversFSE.esp 56 LoversDRader.esp 57 LoversRapeman.esp 58 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 59 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 5A LoversRaperS.esp 5B LoversJoburg.esp 5C LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp 5D LoversJealousy.esp 5E LoversBed.esp 5F LoversHiyokoShooter.esp 60 LoversLoveJuice.esp 61 LoversPayBandit.esp 62 LoversPower.esp 63 LoversContraception.esp 64 LoversHudInformation.esp [Version 1.02] 65 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96] 66 LoversCreature.esp 67 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] ** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp ++ LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp 68 LoversStopCombatEx.esp 69 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp 6A LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp 6B LoversRapeSlave.esp 6C LoversRapeStruggle.esp 6D LoversSlaveTrader.esp 6E LSTBravilUnderground.esp 6F LoversUtilityFunctions.esp 70 LoversVoiceSSPx117.esp 71 LoversBeatemUpS.esp 72 Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.3] ++ GalerionUnarmoredAcrobatics.esp 73 SetBody.esp 74 StolenItemOwnership.esp 75 LST-EURN.esp ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseA00 Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 76 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 77 From2ch Lives.esp 78 F2LMiqoteAddon.esp 79 From2ch Lives Boss.esp 7A Ta22's 01Army.esp 7B F2LHideRaces.esp 7C F2LAddon_MSElves.esp 7D 117NPCs.esp 7E xeosp++.esp 7F F2L_FaceChange.esp 80 City Life-x117.esp ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] 81 Bashed Patch, Oblivion.esp 82 LoversMB2.esp 83 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp 84 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 85 Lovers3dorgasm.esp 86 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Note I have tried using both Version 0.25 and 0.35 of Setbody Reloaded. I have also experimented with uninstalling the old Setbody mod before installing Reloaded as well as Overwriting the old mod with Realoaded before Annealing in Bash. I appreciate any advice you can give me! Edit: I realise now that I was missing the 0.20 files which contains all the body data! However I am still getting the error each time I load the game Is there anyway I can "trick" the mod into thinking this is the 2chEdition?
Satyrist Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 thanks, movomo, I'm planning on testing the new LoversJoystick functionality, but I wont be able to until the weekend.
gerra6 Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 Disable lovers setbody. Lovers setbody and autosetbody serve the same purpose.
87Karan Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Disable lovers setbody. Lovers setbody and autosetbody serve the same purpose. Hi, Thanks for the reply. I disabled SetBody in my Mods list but then AutoSetBody started Spamming Errors that it needed SetBody.
gerra6 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Posted January 8, 2014 Don't disable Setbody. Disable Lovers Setbody. That's the mod that is giving you an error message in your original post. To be more specific, if you look at your load order, you'll notice LoverSetbody.esp Get rid of it.
movomo Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 When you add support for females, could you have an option to set the defender's body to naked during sex? This would help when using a body replacers like this one have "built in" underwear. I won't because I have no idea which body are you using as the base. As i said, it's practically impossible to recognize what the base body is. I could write a separate plugin that sets a pre-defined lowerbody. It has nothing ti do with setbody. Anyway should be doable. But i'll have to dig up the lpk event reference doc first.
87Karan Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Don't disable Setbody. Disable Lovers Setbody. That's the mod that is giving you an error message in your original post. To be more specific, if you look at your load order, you'll notice LoverSetbody.esp Get rid of it. Thanks gerra6! I knew it was going to be something simple! Thanks all for a great mod!
Satyrist Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 One suggestion for when you get round to adding females to Lovers joystick - have it select either a futa lower body or a strap-on lower body depending whether or not the characters set (as set by setbody) lower body is futa or female.
movomo Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 One suggestion for when you get round to adding females to Lovers joystick - have it select either a futa lower body or a strap-on lower body depending whether or not the characters set (as set by setbody) lower body is futa or female. Possible. Thanks for testing it, btw. *Edit* Duh.. I meant to say it's possible.. it's technically no problem, but the panties part of the strapon are being the problem. There are around 150 different lowerbodies ( = different butt shapes) in setbody reloaded. I don't want get involved in this kind of massive conversion.
movomo Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 When you add support for females, could you have an option to set the defender's body to naked during sex? This would help when using a body replacers like this one have "built in" underwear. I won't because I have no idea which body are you using as the base. As i said, it's practically impossible to recognize what the base body is. I could write a separate plugin that sets a pre-defined lowerbody. It has nothing ti do with setbody. Anyway should be doable. But i'll have to dig up the lpk event reference doc first. Here's the plugin, as requested. LoversUndressUndies.7z It's independent from SetBody, but requires Blockhead 7.0 How to use: Specify the mesh paths in the console Set luuInit.sPath2 to sv_Construct "upperBodyPath" Set luuInit.sPath3 to sv_Construct "lowerBodyPath" the mesh path must be relative to the data\meshes\
Satyrist Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Possible. Thanks for testing it, btw. *Edit* Duh.. I meant to say it's possible.. it's technically no problem, but the panties part of the strapon are being the problem. There are around 150 different lowerbodies ( = different butt shapes) in setbody reloaded. I don't want get involved in this kind of massive conversion. Well, I haven't started yet - entertaining guest until tomorrow As to my futa/strap-on suggestion, yes, I thought of the number of variants involved after I posted . In fact, just doing the mod as all-futa or all strap-on would involve at least 150 extra meshes - more if you include different penis styles! ATM I can't think of an easy fix to this. On a tangent - does Lovers Joystick tie into the custom body menu functionality of SetBody? (i.e. if you add a new body type to setbody as a custom menu, can you include Lovers Joystick lowerbody meshes?)
gerra6 Posted January 9, 2014 Author Posted January 9, 2014 Duh.. I meant to say it's possible.. it's technically no problem, but the panties part of the strapon are being the problem. There are around 150 different lowerbodies ( = different butt shapes) in setbody reloaded. I don't want get involved in this kind of massive conversion. Seriously. Thanks for taking over this project BTW (*cackles maniacally*)
movomo Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 On a tangent - does Lovers Joystick tie into the custom body menu functionality of SetBody? (i.e. if you add a new body type to setbody as a custom menu, can you include Lovers Joystick lowerbody meshes?) Not yet. Actually, i was thinking to remove that feature once and for all. No one seemed to be using it, horrible configuring, confusing even to me. But if i am to add the configurable category, that's not difficult.If strapon is what you want, i can make it work in similar way as break armor works. That is, detect the specially-named strapon mesh and use it instead of normal dick if the body is originally not futa. --- By the way, i bought a new ssd. I'm sick of being unable to install anything other than windows in my c drive. Good bye 40gb. I may or may not be able to work on anything for few days because of this, depending on how quicky i recover my workspace and all the environment.
Slammer64 Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Movomo, not to get off-topic here, cloning your C:\ drive to an SSD is simplicity itself, and fast too. Get a copy of Macrium Free edition and use it to clone over the contents of your C:\ drive to your new ssd. You won't even have to re-activate Windows.
gerra6 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Posted January 10, 2014 By the way, i bought a new ssd. I'm sick of being unable to install anything other than windows in my c drive. Good bye 40gb. I may or may not be able to work on anything for few days because of this, depending on how quicky i recover my workspace and all the environment. NNooOooOoo Seam Mender, she needs testin!
ger4 Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 By the way, i bought a new ssd. I'm sick of being unable to install anything other than windows in my c drive. Good bye 40gb. I may or may not be able to work on anything for few days because of this, depending on how quicky i recover my workspace and all the environment. NNooOooOoo Seam Mender, she needs testin! I've got some free time this weekend if you need some ore seam testing done.
movomo Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Movomo, not to get off-topic here, cloning your C:\ drive to an SSD is simplicity itself, and fast too. Get a copy of Macrium Free edition and use it to clone over the contents of your C:\ drive to your new ssd. You won't even have to re-activate Windows. KUDOS Unfortunately it didn't work because of the pipeline error. But hey, Samsung SSD had the migration tool... So I'm done now. Thing's are convenient these days.. Good times.
Satyrist Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Ok, I've done some testing on Lovers Joystick: Testing - Imperial Male & Imperial Female female: HGEC LL H-cup male: Roberts 5.2 Average with original penis All animations in LAPF ok except: 06 - misses the hole 29 - some poke-through 30 - some poke through 50 - misses the hole 77 - some poke through 81 - a bit oddly bent 100 - some poke through 104 - rubbing rather than penetration - but its probably supposed to do that 105 - some poke through 106 - some poke through 121 - misses the hole 153 - misses the hole 155 - misses the hole 156 - misses the hole 157 - misses the hole 165 - misses the hole 174 - misses the hole 182 - misses the hole 186 - misses the hole Is this useful?
movomo Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 By Talos you've done some serious testing. Thanks. Now,, what is your opinion? Are they acceptable, or too poor to ignore and shoule be replaced with the original LAPF dicks? Do you think those animations were fine with the original LAPF dicks? Keep in mind that the RM original body is replaced by the normal sized version dick. Large version is more similar to the LAPF ones (in size).
Satyrist Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 By Talos you've done some serious testing. Thanks. Now,, what is your opinion? Are they acceptable, or too poor to ignore and shoule be replaced with the original LAPF dicks? Do you think those animations were fine with the original LAPF dicks? Keep in mind that the RM original body is replaced by the normal sized version dick. Large version is more similar to the LAPF ones (in size). I managed to come up with a testing scheme - I set Lovers to manual then cycled through the different positions, using the console to find the animation number. I need to do more testing, but I think the animations with poke-through problems should have even more of a problem with a bigger dick. Now I'm not really sure how Oblivion animations and nif weighting work, so its possible the LAPF dick bends differently from yours (but I'm not sure that is the case). Overall, most of the animations I've flagged up are acceptable unless you look very closely (at which point you'll notice other issues unrelated to your mod, like vaginas not opening). On an unrelated note, I've been experimenting with your custom body menu functionalty (hence my previous question) - with the intent of giving Khajiits and Argonians Morrowind-style 'beast legs' and finger claws (using meshes from KATS and the Scripted Argonian Feet mod). ATM it about half-works, although I can do the same thing using Blockhead.
gerra6 Posted January 11, 2014 Author Posted January 11, 2014 On an unrelated note, I've been experimenting with your custom body menu functionalty (hence my previous question) - with the intent of giving Khajiits and Argonians Morrowind-style 'beast legs' and finger claws (using meshes from KATS and the Scripted Argonian Feet mod). ATM it about half-works, although I can do the same thing using Blockhead. On a slightly unrelated note, that's functionality that I added to autosetbody way back when. I never actually did anything with it. I had originally planned on gathering together appropriate claw and feet meshes and adding them to Setbody so that ASB could automatically update hand and feet meshes by race. But then I got distracted writing tools for Blender.
Supierce Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 I've just noticed the bombshell HGEC Pregnant bodies are named incorrectly. The current HGEC_3 models are actually first trimester and should be HGEC_1. The current HGEC_1 models are second trimester, and the current HGEC_2 models are third trimester. This is true for HGEC lower body, lower body bbb, and upper body. The P models and THEC models are all fine.
gregathit Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 I need to do more testing, but I think the animations with poke-through problems should have even more of a problem with a bigger dick. Now I'm not really sure how Oblivion animations and nif weighting work, so its possible the LAPF dick bends differently from yours (but I'm not sure that is the case). I don't think the "bend" is different (meaning the weight painting). What is different is the default position. The Setbody dicks are pointing more in a horizontal default position, where as the LAPF mesh dick is pointing about 70-75 degrees upward. This results in the animation placement being off. Thus the size of the dick is not the relevant factor, but rather the default angle of the dangle. No pun intended. I sent a PM with picture to Movomo of the two dicks loaded into one instance of nifskope.
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