Missynissy Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 So I havnt had a serious problem of CTD for awhile now. But since I started to do the main quest it started to crash frequently, not giving me even 5 minutes to play the game. I'm currently at the western watch tower in Whiterun to kill the dragon there, and even on my way to there it started to crash frequently. Before I only ever had crashes every so often. I'm not sure whats causing this but I know it did this before when I tried to play the main quest. I've tried giving the game time assuming that i'v simply overplayed it, but that doesn't seem to work, and i'v also tried using TES5edit to clean up my mods and the such, as well as LOOT to organize my mod list, though none of that seems to work I'll post my load order below Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Falskaar.esm 7 7 Wyrmstooth.esp 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a CreatureFramework.esm 11 b BeeingFemale.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Assets.esm 13 d Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 14 e Campfire.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Integration.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 17 11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 18 12 daymoyl.esm 19 13 paradise_halls.esm 20 14 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 21 15 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 22 16 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 23 17 SkyUI.esp 24 18 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 25 19 TavernGames.esp 26 1a SignatureEquipment.esp 27 1b EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 28 1c ELFX - Exteriors.esp 29 1d RealisticRoomRental.esp 30 1e CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 31 1f Animations.esp 32 20 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 33 21 Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp 34 22 LandLord_.esp 35 23 SOSRaceMenu.esp 36 24 XPMSE.esp 37 25 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 38 26 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 39 27 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 40 28 MoreNastyCritters.esp 41 29 RealNames.esp 42 2a 3DNPC.esp 43 2b paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp 44 2c Coins of Tamriel V2 Legendary Edition.esp 45 2d GreatWarSkyrim.esp 46 2e Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 47 2f Civil War Aftermath.esp 48 30 CWIELnFXPatch.esp 49 31 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp 50 32 BlackthornManor.esp 51 33 Helgen Reborn.esp 52 34 SexLab_Solutions.esp 53 35 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 54 36 Improved Adoptions MERGED.esp 55 37 ESFCompanions.esp 56 38 Civil War Faction Economy - LE.esp 57 39 OBIS.esp 58 3a Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 59 3b MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp 60 3c Man Those Borders!.esp 61 3d OwnCivilWar.esp 62 3e Immersive Weapons.esp SkyMoMod.esp 63 3f DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 64 40 JobsofSkyrim.esp 65 41 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 66 42 TheScarlett.esp 67 43 SilianManor.esp 68 44 Immersive Encounters.esp 69 45 WhitBBM.esp 70 46 Bandit Economy - LE.esp 71 47 HarvestOverhaul.esp 72 48 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 73 49 PB_WalkFaster.esp 74 4a WindstadMine.esp 75 4b Immersive Wenches.esp 76 4c HeljarchenFarm.esp 77 4d buildablehouse.esp 78 4e NorthernCardinal.esp 79 4f PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp 80 50 LeafRest OnePiece.esp 81 51 Valdmire.esp 82 52 SkyfallEstate.esp 83 53 PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp 84 54 Immersive Patrols II.esp 85 55 Hunterborn.esp 86 56 FrostvaleEstate.esp 87 57 SpellResearch.esp 88 58 Frostfall.esp 89 59 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 90 5a SexLab_Dialogues.esp 91 5b Religion.esp 92 5c CWIMTOTPatch.esp 93 5d Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp 94 5e multifollowerlite.esp 95 5f dc-untamed-000.esp 96 60 iNeed.esp 97 61 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp 98 62 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases Plus.esp 99 63 ElysiumEstate.esp 100 64 frostfallcottage.esp 101 65 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp 102 66 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 103 67 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 104 68 TradeRoutes.esp 105 69 TradeRoutes-HelgenReborn-Patch.esp 106 6a SOS - Shop.esp 107 6b BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 108 6c SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 109 6d Apropos.esp 110 6e SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 111 6f SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 112 70 SLALAnimObj.esp 113 71 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 114 72 SLAnimLoader.esp 115 73 OBISDB.esp 116 74 Convenient Horses.esp 117 75 FNISSexyMove.esp 118 76 FNIS.esp 119 77 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 120 78 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 121 79 RaceMenu.esp 122 7a DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 123 7b Purewaters.esp 124 7c dr_bandolier.esp 125 7d followerwander2.esp 126 7e SexLab Romance.esp 127 7f daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp 128 80 Missives.esp 129 81 ScrimshawExpanded.esp 130 82 ScrimshawExpanded_IWPatch.esp 131 83 ScrimshawExpanded_IAPatch.esp 132 84 ScrimshawExpanded_CHPatch.esp 133 85 ScrimshawExpandedLeveledLists.esp 134 86 ScrimshawExpandedCampfire.esp 135 87 LPBards.esp 136 88 dr_bandolierdg.esp 137 89 Bells of Skyrim.esp 138 8a NorthernCardinal_Falskaar.esp 139 8b paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp 140 8c NorthernCardinal_Wyrmstooth.esp 141 8d SpousesEnhanced.esp 142 8e pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp 143 8f prvti_heavyarmory.esp 144 90 prvti_heavyarmory_dg_addon.esp 145 91 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 146 92 VariedGuards.esp 147 93 TakeNotes.esp 148 94 ExpandedNPCDialogue.esp 149 95 paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp 150 96 UIExtensions.esp 151 97 WetandCold.esp 152 98 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 153 99 Order My Items.esp 154 9a SimpleTaxes.esp 155 9b Scriptfreeshipsailing.esp 156 9c Sailboats.esp 157 9d fishinginskyrim.esp 158 9e follower map markers.esp 159 9f My Home Is Your Home.esp 160 a0 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 161 a1 SimplyKnock.esp 162 a2 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 163 a3 CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp 164 a4 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 165 a5 Immersive Citizens - RRR patch.esp 166 a6 CFTO.esp 167 a7 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 168 a8 ccas_starts.esp 169 a9 ScrimshawExpandd_ASLALPatch.esp 170 aa ImmerSlave.esp 171 ab ELFXEnhancer.esp 172 ac Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp 173 ad Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Link to comment
Psalam Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Missynissy said: So I havnt had a serious problem of CTD for awhile now. But since I started to do the main quest it started to crash frequently, not giving me even 5 minutes to play the game. I'm currently at the western watch tower in Whiterun to kill the dragon there, and even on my way to there it started to crash frequently. Before I only ever had crashes every so often. I'm not sure whats causing this but I know it did this before when I tried to play the main quest. I've tried giving the game time assuming that i'v simply overplayed it, but that doesn't seem to work, and i'v also tried using TES5edit to clean up my mods and the such, as well as LOOT to organize my mod list, though none of that seems to work I'll post my load order below Reveal hidden contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Falskaar.esm 7 7 Wyrmstooth.esp 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a CreatureFramework.esm 11 b BeeingFemale.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Assets.esm 13 d Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 14 e Campfire.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Integration.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 17 11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 18 12 daymoyl.esm 19 13 paradise_halls.esm 20 14 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 21 15 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 22 16 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 23 17 SkyUI.esp 24 18 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 25 19 TavernGames.esp 26 1a SignatureEquipment.esp 27 1b EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 28 1c ELFX - Exteriors.esp 29 1d RealisticRoomRental.esp 30 1e CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 31 1f Animations.esp 32 20 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 33 21 Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp 34 22 LandLord_.esp 35 23 SOSRaceMenu.esp 36 24 XPMSE.esp 37 25 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 38 26 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 39 27 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 40 28 MoreNastyCritters.esp 41 29 RealNames.esp 42 2a 3DNPC.esp 43 2b paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp 44 2c Coins of Tamriel V2 Legendary Edition.esp 45 2d GreatWarSkyrim.esp 46 2e Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 47 2f Civil War Aftermath.esp 48 30 CWIELnFXPatch.esp 49 31 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp 50 32 BlackthornManor.esp 51 33 Helgen Reborn.esp 52 34 SexLab_Solutions.esp 53 35 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 54 36 Improved Adoptions MERGED.esp 55 37 ESFCompanions.esp 56 38 Civil War Faction Economy - LE.esp 57 39 OBIS.esp 58 3a Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 59 3b MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp 60 3c Man Those Borders!.esp 61 3d OwnCivilWar.esp 62 3e Immersive Weapons.esp SkyMoMod.esp 63 3f DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 64 40 JobsofSkyrim.esp 65 41 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 66 42 TheScarlett.esp 67 43 SilianManor.esp 68 44 Immersive Encounters.esp 69 45 WhitBBM.esp 70 46 Bandit Economy - LE.esp 71 47 HarvestOverhaul.esp 72 48 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 73 49 PB_WalkFaster.esp 74 4a WindstadMine.esp 75 4b Immersive Wenches.esp 76 4c HeljarchenFarm.esp 77 4d buildablehouse.esp 78 4e NorthernCardinal.esp 79 4f PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp 80 50 LeafRest OnePiece.esp 81 51 Valdmire.esp 82 52 SkyfallEstate.esp 83 53 PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp 84 54 Immersive Patrols II.esp 85 55 Hunterborn.esp 86 56 FrostvaleEstate.esp 87 57 SpellResearch.esp 88 58 Frostfall.esp 89 59 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 90 5a SexLab_Dialogues.esp 91 5b Religion.esp 92 5c CWIMTOTPatch.esp 93 5d Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp 94 5e multifollowerlite.esp 95 5f dc-untamed-000.esp 96 60 iNeed.esp 97 61 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp 98 62 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases Plus.esp 99 63 ElysiumEstate.esp 100 64 frostfallcottage.esp 101 65 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp 102 66 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 103 67 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 104 68 TradeRoutes.esp 105 69 TradeRoutes-HelgenReborn-Patch.esp 106 6a SOS - Shop.esp 107 6b BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 108 6c SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 109 6d Apropos.esp 110 6e SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 111 6f SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 112 70 SLALAnimObj.esp 113 71 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 114 72 SLAnimLoader.esp 115 73 OBISDB.esp 116 74 Convenient Horses.esp 117 75 FNISSexyMove.esp 118 76 FNIS.esp 119 77 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 120 78 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 121 79 RaceMenu.esp 122 7a DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 123 7b Purewaters.esp 124 7c dr_bandolier.esp 125 7d followerwander2.esp 126 7e SexLab Romance.esp 127 7f daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp 128 80 Missives.esp 129 81 ScrimshawExpanded.esp 130 82 ScrimshawExpanded_IWPatch.esp 131 83 ScrimshawExpanded_IAPatch.esp 132 84 ScrimshawExpanded_CHPatch.esp 133 85 ScrimshawExpandedLeveledLists.esp 134 86 ScrimshawExpandedCampfire.esp 135 87 LPBards.esp 136 88 dr_bandolierdg.esp 137 89 Bells of Skyrim.esp 138 8a NorthernCardinal_Falskaar.esp 139 8b paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp 140 8c NorthernCardinal_Wyrmstooth.esp 141 8d SpousesEnhanced.esp 142 8e pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp 143 8f prvti_heavyarmory.esp 144 90 prvti_heavyarmory_dg_addon.esp 145 91 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 146 92 VariedGuards.esp 147 93 TakeNotes.esp 148 94 ExpandedNPCDialogue.esp 149 95 paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp 150 96 UIExtensions.esp 151 97 WetandCold.esp 152 98 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 153 99 Order My Items.esp 154 9a SimpleTaxes.esp 155 9b Scriptfreeshipsailing.esp 156 9c Sailboats.esp 157 9d fishinginskyrim.esp 158 9e follower map markers.esp 159 9f My Home Is Your Home.esp 160 a0 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 161 a1 SimplyKnock.esp 162 a2 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 163 a3 CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp 164 a4 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 165 a5 Immersive Citizens - RRR patch.esp 166 a6 CFTO.esp 167 a7 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 168 a8 ccas_starts.esp 169 a9 ScrimshawExpandd_ASLALPatch.esp 170 aa ImmerSlave.esp 171 ab ELFXEnhancer.esp 172 ac Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp 173 ad Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Start with this: get the most recent version of MoreNastyCritters instead of the old one that you have. Your version has SexLabNudeCreatures in it and THAT version is notorious for causing this problem. Also, as a general principle, make sure that you have the stability tools too (you can find them in my blog on CTDs; the link to that can be found in the spoiler in my signature. Link to comment
Missynissy Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Psalam said: Start with this: get the most recent version of MoreNastyCritters instead of the old one that you have. Your version has SexLabNudeCreatures in it and THAT version is notorious for causing this problem. Also, as a general principle, make sure that you have the stability tools too (you can find them in my blog on CTDs; the link to that can be found in the spoiler in my signature. Well thats the thing. The frequent and near instant crashes only happened recently. And SexLabNudeCreatures doesn't seem to really be the problem as it runs fine with it. I was able to play for long periods of time before today, when it started to CTD frequently. But i'll install the stability tools and see if that help. Link to comment
Psalam Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Missynissy said: Well thats the thing. The frequent and near instant crashes only happened recently. And SexLabNudeCreatures doesn't seem to really be the problem as it runs fine with it. I was able to play for long periods of time before today, when it started to CTD frequently. But i'll install the stability tools and see if that help. Feel free to take or not take my advice. Doing what I just told you to do has rescued many other modders before you. It's completely up to you. Link to comment
Missynissy Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, Psalam said: Feel free to take or not take my advice. Doing what I just told you to do has rescued many other modders before you. It's completely up to you. I tried installing one of the stability mods and to no avail. And the thing is is that it only started to crash frequently after I turned in the dragonstone to the court mage in Whiterun, and i make my way down to fight the dragon at the watch tower. This is only time I can think of where it does this. I have a previous save I can go back to and see if it works on that save. But id rather not have to do that you know. So if you have another solution I could try or if some one else does i would love to hear it. Link to comment
Grey Cloud Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 20 hours ago, Missynissy said: I tried installing one of the stability mods and to no avail. Why install only one? 20 hours ago, Missynissy said: I have a previous save I can go back to and see if it works on that save. But id rather not have to do that you know. Why not? What harm will it do to try it? I never do the vanilla stuff so I don't know but it may just be that triggering the main quest pushes your game over its limit. You have a lot of mods which add NPCs etc to the game plus you aren't using the stability tools. Also if you are using an old version of MNC but have updated other mods which are expecting a newer version of MNC . . . "So I havnt had a serious problem of CTD for awhile now." - How do you define a serious problem? Link to comment
Missynissy Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: Why install only one? Why not? What harm will it do to try it? I never do the vanilla stuff so I don't know but it may just be that triggering the main quest pushes your game over its limit. You have a lot of mods which add NPCs etc to the game plus you aren't using the stability tools. Also if you are using an old version of MNC but have updated other mods which are expecting a newer version of MNC . . . "So I havnt had a serious problem of CTD for awhile now." - How do you define a serious problem? Ok let me rephrase. I have multiple stability mods. I only installed one of the ones that the person above had in his blog because I already have the others. And im not sure if its just when i trigger the main quest, I looked it up and apprently this is a somewhat of a common problem so i'm going to try using cheats to complete the quest. And according the the mod page for MNC im up to date on the mod. And by serious problem, I can't play the game on that save with out it crashing not even 5 minutes in, i'm lucky if I get that far in. Link to comment
Grey Cloud Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Fair enough. 23 minutes ago, Missynissy said: I have multiple stability mods. That means nothing if you do not have them correctly configured. Also 'multiple' does not necessarily mean better stability. Using the right tools and having them properly configured will get you better results than installing each and every tool you come across. Properly configured, these will get you a rock solid, stable game which can take a lot of abuse: Crash fixeshttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/ SKSE Plugin Preloaderhttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/? ENBoost (not needed if already using an ENB)https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost Bethinihttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69787 Load Game CTD Fixhttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443/ There are other ways but these will work. 28 minutes ago, Missynissy said: And according the the mod page for MNC im up to date on the mod. Then you have uninstalled the old version incorrectly. SLNC should not be there in your load order. There are detailed instructions for removing, installing and generally fettling MNC. 31 minutes ago, Missynissy said: I looked it up and apprently this is a somewhat of a common problem Do you have any links for this? Link to comment
Missynissy Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: Fair enough. That means nothing if you do not have them correctly configured. Also 'multiple' does not necessarily mean better stability. Using the right tools and having them properly configured will get you better results than installing each and every tool you come across. Properly configured, these will get you a rock solid, stable game which can take a lot of abuse: Crash fixeshttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/ SKSE Plugin Preloaderhttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/? ENBoost (not needed if already using an ENB)https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost Bethinihttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69787 Load Game CTD Fixhttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443/ There are other ways but these will work. Then you have uninstalled the old version incorrectly. SLNC should not be there in your load order. There are detailed instructions for removing, installing and generally fettling MNC. Do you have any links for this? No I don't have any links for for the problem exactly but a google search showed me that there was a few people with the same problem as me And uninstalling MNC incorrectly may be possible, but I did a full reinstall of Skyrim before I had installed it so I had wiped every thing related to Skyrim from my pc, files and all. Link to comment
Grey Cloud Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Missynissy said: And uninstalling MNC incorrectly may be possible, but I did a full reinstall of Skyrim before I had installed it so I had wiped every thing related to Skyrim from my pc, files and all However you explain it, SLNC should not be there. Link to comment
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