Merges through ZMerge are crashing the game when active

[DarkChaoX]

When i say crashing i dont mean when the menu opens or anything like that. Opening a new game gives an almost immediate crash before even trying to load and load games will always go on infinite loading screens.

 

This has NOTHING to do with the current load order and the reference count is safe at arround 800k references.

 

Any ideas what could be the cause of this?

Merging through the old Merge Plugins Standalone doesnt crash the game but is very limited as to what you can merge.

I had no similar issue with zMerge before.

(Skyrim LE)

 

The game crashes with the merged esp on no matter what mods i merge be it armor mods or even a single armor mod in it

 

Note i also have some previous merges from the same zMerge that are all working fine. Any new merges however cause an instant crash on new game as mentioned

[donttouchmethere]

I still use Merge Plugins, but I get the same CTD effect if I break a mod through merging.

 

If the mod has a bsa file and Merge Plugin extracts the bsa file to manipulate it, there is a chance that this will break the mod.

A defect bsa can crash your game after a new game start.

 

 

[DarkChaoX]

2 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

I still use Merge Plugins, but I get the same CTD effect if I break a mod through merging.

 

If the mod has a bsa file and Merge Plugin extracts the bsa file to manipulate it, there is a chance that this will break the mod.

A defect bsa can crash your game after a new game start.

 

 

thing is this happens with every mod i try to merge even very simple weapon or armor mods. I have made many merged patches before and this never happened

[donttouchmethere]

20 minutes ago, killer8217 said:

thing is this happens with every mod i try to merge even very simple weapon or armor mods. I have made many merged patches before and this never happened

uh, that's bad.

I had the issue only once and I already saw all the warnings from Merge Plugins (and ignored them like a good user^^).

 

If it happens to all mods there must be something else going on.

 

Stupid question, but does the game still work without any merges?

 

Not tried zMerge myself yet.

If zMerge worked before for you, you might want to remember what you have changed since the last time you created and added Merges to your game successfully.

 

A windows update could change admin rights for folders.

New Virus scanner?

 

Maybe used wrong profile with zEdit? If it works like MergePlugins you would have different profiles.

 

 

 

 

[DarkChaoX]

13 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

uh, that's bad.

I had the issue only once and I already saw all the warnings from Merge Plugins (and ignored them like a good user^^).

 

If it happens to all mods there must be something else going on.

 

Stupid question, but does the game still work without any merges?

 

Not tried zMerge myself yet.

If zMerge worked before for you, you might want to remember what you have changed since the last time you created and added Merges to your game successfully.

 

A windows update could change admin rights for folders.

New Virus scanner?

 

Maybe used wrong profile with zEdit? If it works like MergePlugins you would have different profiles.

 

 

 

 

Game works perfectly without the merged esp. Even with the merged mods on. If merged, game instantly breaks.

 

I dont think its a profile issue but i will check it! I didnt rerun the patches ect. Maybe that was an issue?

[DarkChaoX]

22 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

uh, that's bad.

I had the issue only once and I already saw all the warnings from Merge Plugins (and ignored them like a good user^^).

 

If it happens to all mods there must be something else going on.

 

Stupid question, but does the game still work without any merges?

 

Not tried zMerge myself yet.

If zMerge worked before for you, you might want to remember what you have changed since the last time you created and added Merges to your game successfully.

 

A windows update could change admin rights for folders.

New Virus scanner?

 

Maybe used wrong profile with zEdit? If it works like MergePlugins you would have different profiles.

 

 

 

 

Tried Mator Smash and it fixed it!!!

[donttouchmethere]

20 minutes ago, killer8217 said:

Game works perfectly without the merged esp. Even with the merged mods on. If merged, game instantly breaks.

 

I dont think its a profile issue but i will check it! I didnt rerun the patches ect. Maybe that was an issue?

You mean you didn't rerun patches like bashed patch or dual sheat redux or tools like FNIS?

I'm sure it could have an effect ?

 

So far I managed to kill my game like that on a new game start with:

> forgot to install a patch (3 times)

> broke mod bsa with merge plugins (once)

> merged mods that where required by other mods that couldn't find them anymore (2 times)

> wrong ENBoost/Crash fixes/SKSE settings (2 times)

> Alternate start mod esps too high in LO (2 times)

> defect mods (2 times)

> not run bashed patch again (now I wonder how often...)

> installed mod zips via NMM that weren't NMM ready

[donttouchmethere]

8 minutes ago, killer8217 said:

Tried Mator Smash and it fixed it!!!

? YEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA!!! ?

[Grey Cloud]

18 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

You mean you didn't rerun patches like bashed patch or dual sheat redux or tools like FNIS?

I'm sure it could have an effect ?

 

So far I managed to kill my game like that on a new game start with:

> forgot to install a patch (3 times)

> broke mod bsa with merge plugins (once)

> merged mods that where required by other mods that couldn't find them anymore (2 times)

> wrong ENBoost/Crash fixes/SKSE settings (2 times)

> Alternate start mod esps too high in LO (2 times)

> defect mods (2 times)

> not run bashed patch again (now I wonder how often...)

> installed mod zips via NMM that weren't NMM ready

And that was only this week. ?

[donttouchmethere]

3 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

And that was only this week. ?

lol

nooooooooo!

I need one week for a new LO  ?

Also finding mods that crash your game right away - instead of waiting 20-40 hours - isn't as easy as it seems ?

[DarkChaoX]

7 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

And that was only this week. ?

i felt that. Thats literally me but i usually manage to always fix it by myself. I usually post when i feel like im completely lost xD