Draenei and Man'ari

[Trykz]

On 1/11/2020 at 12:04 PM, walkingfree2020 said:

the scripts in the folder one is manari and the other is draenei. are those the race specific thins to load them in game or purely faction stuff?

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Trykz

[walkingfree2020]

hmmm... there are tga files in the facegentint O.o

[Trykz]

1 minute ago, walkingfree2020 said:

hmmm... there are tga files in the facegentint O.o

Those are the facegen files for the NPCs. The NPCs are in the Breach mod (which is all loose files), not the race mod (which is completely isolated in the BSA). They're included so you don't get NPCs with black faces.

 

Trykz

[Pristbeast]

Having the same issue where the Man'ari are working fine but the Draenei is just a pair of floating eyes with horns and tendrils. Tried manually reinstalling both this mod and Race Compability but it didn't do anything.

[walkingfree2020]

sorry. i wasnt tryin to annoy ya trykz. i've tried vanilla/manual installs and everything and only the manari race seems to be showing. i only mentioned the tga files because i had always thought that tga files werent compatible for sse so they had to be converted to bc7 format? if this next ting i try dosnt work i'll likely place it directly in my skyrim folder and try to place the tri morphs there so i can use the sliders with them. i'm one of those that has that burning to desire to understand why something works that way xD

[Trykz]

10 minutes ago, walkingfree2020 said:

sorry. i wasnt tryin to annoy ya trykz. i've tried vanilla/manual installs and everything and only the manari race seems to be showing. i only mentioned the tga files because i had always thought that tga files werent compatible for sse so they had to be converted to bc7 format? if this next ting i try dosnt work i'll likely place it directly in my skyrim folder and try to place the tri morphs there so i can use the sliders with them. i'm one of those that has that burning to desire to understand why something works that way xD

Not annoyed really. It's just that out of over 200 downloads, it's only a couple people having this issue. And since I'm using EXACTLY the same file you downloaded without any issues, it's most certainly something on a specific user's end.

 

Not quite sure where the info you heard about tga files came from, but those files were generated directly from SSE's CK, so they're definitely not "incompatible".

 

Trykz

[Trykz]

19 minutes ago, Pristbeast said:

Having the same issue where the Man'ari are working fine but the Draenei is just a pair of floating eyes with horns and tendrils. Tried manually reinstalling both this mod and Race Compability but it didn't do anything.

One last thing you could both try, is unpacking the BSAs (which I normally DO NOT recommend, and certainly don't for anyone not having this issue) and running the loose files.

 

Trykz

[walkingfree2020]

i was considering do that as well.  for now though i'll show ya a pic of the manari i made ? 

[Trykz]

6 minutes ago, walkingfree2020 said:

i was considering do that as well.  for now though i'll show ya a pic of the manari i made ? 

 

Nice. It's just odd that the head mesh is loading for the Man'ari race, but not for the Draenei. Since they BOTH use it. If you get a chance, go to the Draenei island and see if the Draenei NPCs there are properly loaded. If they are, then it's most definitely the race controller lagging out before the head mesh gets loaded for the race.

 

Be sure to use God mode when you get there, because they WILL try to kill you LOL

 

Trykz

[walkingfree2020]

3 minutes ago, Trykz said:

 

Nice. It's just odd that the head mesh is loading for the Man'ari race, but not for the Draenei. Since they BOTH use it. If you get a chance, go to the Draenei island and see if the Draenei NPCs there are properly loaded. If they are, then it's most definitely the race controller lagging out before the head mesh gets loaded for the race.

 

Be sure to use God mode when you get there, because they WILL try to kill you LOL

 

Trykz

oh no worries there. i have uncapper and some other stuff. lvl 838 manari destruction mage coming to kick some arse

[walkingfree2020]

ok. did a full loose file setup. i even slid between race choices differently to give it time to load. instead if going Male nord>>male Draenei>>female Draenei i went male nord>>>female nord>>>>female manari>>>female draenei. still invisible face. i'll grab my manari i made and head up there to check it out.

[Pristbeast]

7 minutes ago, walkingfree2020 said:

ok. did a full loose file setup. i even slid between race choices differently to give it time to load. instead if going Male nord>>male Draenei>>female Draenei i went male nord>>>female nord>>>>female manari>>>female draenei. still invisible face. i'll grab my manari i made and head up there to check it out.

I already did and the NPCs look fine. Its only the player that has no face for whatever reason.

[Trykz]

3 minutes ago, Pristbeast said:

I already did and the NPCs look fine. Its only the player that has no face for whatever reason.

Thanks for that.

 

So the problem is isolated to the player. So it begs the question:

 

Do either of you now, or have you ever, installed or attempted to convert another Draenei race mod? Perhaps one of those on LE Nexus?

 

Trykz

[walkingfree2020]

i went to lvl up the manari to prep her for running through lookin about stuff. she has 1500 mp, 300 health and 300 stam..is that normal at lvl 1 or is the DoC race mod somehow crossign over with it? O.o

[walkingfree2020]

i do have another draenei race mod from LE. the skyedraenei race mod. i have it fully ported over with a number of other things for it as well. including 3bbb bhunp bodyslides fo rthe body. ummm......only issue i have with that race mod is the anims cause it to ctd every time. other than that it runs full steam no issues. it's a work in progress for me. like me fixing horn 14 and 15 on the tera castanic race mod i ported for personal use. keeps showing face scar 0 for both of them. oh and a sos patch. need to learn to dothat for the males ?

[Pristbeast]

4 minutes ago, Trykz said:

Thanks for that.

 

So the problem is isolated to the player. So it begs the question:

 

Do either of you now, or have you ever, installed or attempted to convert another Draenei race mod? Perhaps one of those on LE Nexus?

 

Trykz

Nope. Haven't used any Race Mods on my SSE. Guess I'll "reset" my Skyrim once again. Its been a while since I completely reinstalled anyway.^^

[Trykz]

2 minutes ago, Pristbeast said:

Nope. Haven't used any Race Mods on my SSE. Guess I'll "reset" my Skyrim once again. Its been a while since I completely reinstalled anyway.^^

Definitely let me know how you make out. But before you wipe your game, see if you can compare your load order with @walkingfree2020 for any mods you might have in common.

 

I'm hoping to rule out any incompatibilities.

 

Thanks,

 

Trykz

[walkingfree2020]

13 minutes ago, Trykz said:

Thanks for that.

 

So the problem is isolated to the player. So it begs the question:

 

Do either of you now, or have you ever, installed or attempted to convert another Draenei race mod? Perhaps one of those on LE Nexus?

 

Trykz

why would you be wondering about that though. if the file paths are isolated there shouldnt be any crossover....unless the script for the race is named the same?

[Trykz]

8 minutes ago, walkingfree2020 said:

i do have another draenei race mod from LE. the skyedraenei race mod. i have it fully ported over with a number of other things for it as well. including 3bbb bhunp bodyslides fo rthe body. ummm......only issue i have with that race mod is the anims cause it to ctd every time. other than that it runs full steam no issues. it's a work in progress for me. like me fixing horn 14 and 15 on the tera castanic race mod i ported for personal use. keeps showing face scar 0 for both of them. oh and a sos patch. need to learn to dothat for the males ?

If you unpack my mod from the archives, check to see if the two mods share ANY common file names.

 

Thanks,

 

Trykz

[Trykz]

3 minutes ago, walkingfree2020 said:

why would you be wondering about that though. if the file paths are isolated there shouldnt be any crossover....unless the script for the race is named the same?

Bingo

 

LOL

 

edit: there's also the possibility that the two mods could be fighting for headparts formlists with identical names. Or identical head mesh names. Just to point out a couple. Link that other mod if you could please. I'd like to take a look at it.

 

Thanks,

 

Trykz

[walkingfree2020]

1 minute ago, Trykz said:

If you unpack my mod from the archives, check to see if the two mods share ANY common file names.

 

Thanks,

 

Trykz

they both have their own script set. skyedraenei has a source script as well but neither script is named the same and in game it shows them both and where it is being drawn from. both mods are differently named. only things i see directly that are the same name are the standard meshes. except the skyedraenei mod doesnt have a independent head mesh. it using (i believe) the standard nord head as a redirect in the esp prolly. (stretching a guess there) i do notice one thing different witht he esm. in mo2 esm's are in BOLD unless esl or something. is the esp a esmify'd esp or something. just guessing i'vm very derp in that area. but as a stretch could the game be trying to pull a head mesh from the other draenei race?

[walkingfree2020]

here's i'll send over to you what i have ported. prollys need the form id updated too from 43 to 44. still runs in game just havent done th efull service yet until i figure out the anim issue and why some of the yes are invisible. i left the original unpd files in there as resource stuff for me to refer to for practice. the bhunp 3bbb stuff someone released on le and i ported over. i have that file a well but i dont think its directly related since its rings and such. 

SkyEDraenei_SSE.7z

[walkingfree2020]

if you want to see that mod i have in there compatible textures for the bhunp 3bbb advanced build. so should really only need to build and play if you wanted to.

just to clarify i had in no way planned to release that. it was just for personal practice and for fun. i know alot of creators get antsy about that stuff. O.o

[Trykz]

2 minutes ago, walkingfree2020 said:

here's i'll send over to you what i have ported. prollys need the form id updated too from 43 to 44. still runs in game just havent done th efull service yet until i figure out the anim issue and why some of the yes are invisible. i left the original unpd files in there as resource stuff for me to refer to for practice. the bhunp 3bbb stuff someone released on le and i ported over. i have that file a well but i dont think its directly related since its rings and such. 

SkyEDraenei_SSE.7z 157.08 MB · 0 downloads

 

Thanks. I'm about to go out for errands, so I'll DL and take a look when I get back.

 

Trykz

[walkingfree2020]

4 minutes ago, Trykz said:

 

Thanks. I'm about to go out for errands, so I'll DL and take a look when I get back.

 

Trykz

k. i'll keep dabbling with this to see what i can poke and burn with it