Blue Astra Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 I'm experiencing some trouble when using mods such as Creature Framework Horny Creatures of Skyrim More Nasty Critters After an animal approaches my character one of two things will happen depending on the animal (I have only tried it with dogs and horses at the moment) A dog will approach and everything works fine except the dog will have no animations (my character does) A horse will approach and then I'll ctd (just before the crash, it will say "playing animation xxx" in the corner) I've run FNIS and have all the required mods but I can't fix it all at Any help would be appreciated
Psalam Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Novatham said: I'm experiencing some trouble when using mods such as Creature Framework Horny Creatures of Skyrim More Nasty Critters After an animal approaches my character one of two things will happen depending on the animal (I have only tried it with dogs and horses at the moment) A dog will approach and everything works fine except the dog will have no animations (my character does) A horse will approach and then I'll ctd (just before the crash, it will say "playing animation xxx" in the corner) I've run FNIS and have all the required mods but I can't fix it all at Any help would be appreciated Do you have the FNIS creature pack? Can you post a load order?
Blue Astra Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Psalam said: Do you have the FNIS creature pack? Can you post a load order? I do not have a separate FNIS creature pack mod because as far as I'm aware, creatures is now included in the normal FNIS Also is there a way to easily generate a load order list?
Psalam Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Novatham said: I do not have a separate FNIS creature pack mod because as far as I'm aware, creatures is now included in the normal FNIS Also is there a way to easily generate a load order list? Congratulations, you made me look! Sorry but, to get "'Creature' functionality" (to quote Fore) you still need the pack. It is the fourth file (second optional file) listed when you look in files under FNIS!
Blue Astra Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, Psalam said: Congratulations, you made me look! Sorry but, to get "'Creature' functionality" (to quote Fore) you still need the pack. It is the fourth file (second optional file) listed when you look in files under FNIS! I must have misread/misinterpreted the part where it said creatures was included then So I installed it but now I have another problem, Skyrim won't launch at all.
Psalam Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Novatham said: I must have misread/misinterpreted the part where it said creatures was included then So I installed it but now I have another problem, Skyrim won't launch at all. Run LOOT. Run FNIS. Correct any errors that they show and try again.
Blue Astra Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Psalam said: Run LOOT. Run FNIS. Correct any errors that they show and try again. Done those, no difference. When I launch Skyrim (skse), task manager shows it appearing as a background task for about 4 seconds before just disappearing
Blue Astra Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 I managed to get Skyrim launching again (by disabling a mod I installed after I posed this post (Kyne's Blessing Mod)) The dog problem is fixed, however I still ctd with horses Here is my load order 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SexLab.esm 7 7 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 8 8 SexLabAroused.esm 9 9 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 10 a Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 11 b ZaZAnimationPack.esm 12 c ITortureFramework.esm 13 d Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 14 e Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm 15 f Heels Sound.esm 16 10 ApachiiHair.esm 17 11 CreatureFramework.esm 18 12 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 19 13 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 20 14 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 21 15 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 22 16 Cutting Room Floor.esp 23 17 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 24 18 ELFX - Weathers.esp 25 19 SkyUI_SE.esp 26 1a Vivid WeathersSE.esp 27 1b TrueStormsSE.esp 28 1c zzEstrus.esp 29 1d zzEstrusMimic.esp 30 1e Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp 31 1f Book of UUNP - Textures.esp 32 20 SOSRaceMenu.esp 33 21 3PCO.esp 34 22 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 35 23 Bijin NPCs.esp 36 24 KS_Hairdo's_Lite.esp 37 25 MoreNastyCritters.esp 38 26 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 39 27 DeviousAdventures.esp 40 28 Run For Your Lives.esp 41 29 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 42 2a SexLab_Solutions.esp 43 2b SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 44 2c SexLab-Parasites.esp 45 2d HornyCreatures.esp 46 2e Bijin Warmaidens.esp 47 2f Bijin Wives.esp 48 30 CBBE.esp 49 31 FNIS.esp 50 32 Footprints.esp 51 33 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp 52 34 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp 53 35 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp 54 36 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp 55 37 RaceMenu.esp 56 38 XPMSE.esp 57 39 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 58 3a RaceMenuPlugin.esp 59 3b Unique Uniques.esp 60 3c UnreadBooksGlow.esp 61 3d Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp 62 3e Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp 63 3f WetandCold.esp 64 40 AnimatedParasites.esp 65 41 Devious Cidhna.esp 66 42 TentaCave.esp 67 43 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 68 44 RoadInspections.esp 69 45 Deviously Enslaved.esp 70 46 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 71 47 DW.esp 72 48 EggFactory.esp 73 49 EstrusChaurus.esp 74 4a EstrusDwemer.esp 75 4b EstrusSpider.esp 76 4c EstrusTrappedEggs.esp 77 4d SexLabDefeat.esp 78 4e mslDeviousCaptures.esp 79 4f Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 80 50 SerialStrip.esp 254 FE 0 SerialStripper.esp 81 51 SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp 82 52 SLAnimLoader.esp 83 53 SLSO.esp 84 54 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 85 55 Spank That Ass.esp 86 56 sr_FillHerUp.esp 87 57 Cumshot.esp 254 FE 1 CumshotSL.esp 88 58 Devious Devices - Equip.esp 89 59 SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 90 5a SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 91 5b AnkleBoots.esp 92 5c calyps-bosmer.esp 93 5d Keeping Warm.esp 94 5e RaceMenuHH.esp 95 5f KS Hairdo's.esp 96 60 saLa_Hairs.esp 97 61 Tiwa44_Minidresses_CBBE.esp 98 62 Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn_CBBE.esp 99 63 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 100 64 FNISSexyMove.esp 101 65 Evening Star.esp 102 66 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 103 67 UIExtensions.esp 104 68 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 105 69 Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp 106 6a Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 107 6b ELFXEnhancer.esp 108 6c RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Psalam Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 Do you have the newest version of FNIS (7.5 XXL)? If so what does it say your CTD chances are? If not, run your version of FNIS and copy and paste the output here.
Blue Astra Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Psalam said: Do you have the newest version of FNIS (7.5 XXL)? If so what does it say your CTD chances are? If not, run your version of FNIS and copy and paste the output here. FNIS Behavior V7.5 XXL 04/10/2019 14:07:49 Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.5.80.0 - E:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading BaboHorribleHarassment V5 ... ChAnims:15 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.1% Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:509 CTD:3.4% pOpt:1.0% Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... ChAnims:200 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... ChAnims:145 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:86 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... ChAnims:250 CTD:1.5% pOpt:0.4% Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... ChAnims:185 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... ChAnims:100 CTD:0.6% pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:395 CTD:2.4% pOpt:0.6% Reading Billyy_HumanDD V1.0 ... ChAnims:180 CTD:1.1% pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:142 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ... ChAnims:110 CTD:0.7% pOpt:0.2% Reading DD V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:635(493) CTD:12.5% pOpt:1.9% NOTE: DD has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:330(330) CTD:9.3% pOpt:0.0% Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ... ChAnims:102(102) CTD:2.5% pOpt:0.0% Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:370 CTD:2.5% pOpt:0.8% Reading Defeat V5 ... ChAnims:39 CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.2% Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V6.3 ... ChAnims:21 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading EstrusChaurus V4.35 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FHU V1.00 ... ChAnims:5 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISBase V7.5 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISSexyMove V7.2 ... ChAnims:21(18) CTD:3.3% pOpt:2.2% NOTE: FNISSexyMove has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ... ChAnims:134 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ... ChAnims:65 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.1% Reading ITortureFramework V1.00 ... ChAnims:12 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.1% Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... ChAnims:344 CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.6% Reading SerialStrip V1.1.4 ... ChAnims:13 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: SerialStrip uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading SexLab V1.63 ... ChAnims:882 CTD:5.6% pOpt:1.5% Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ... ChAnims:142 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ... ChAnims:5 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... ChAnims:177 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading XPMSE V7.2 ... ChAnims:164(164) CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00 ... ChAnims:829 CTD:3.6% pOpt:0.0% Reading zzEstrus V2.30 ... ChAnims:254(12) CTD:3.4% pOpt:0.2% All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... 0 GENDER modifications for Animations\male 1 GENDER modifications for Animations\female Alternate Animation mods: 7 sets: 48 total groups: 215 added file slots: 1602 alternate files: 1119 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... Reading HCOSWildlife V1.0 ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ... 6861 animations for 35 mods successfully included (character) ChAnims: 6861 CTD:63.3% pOpt:12.3% max: 10844 LC: 16553 (max. 26162) 4429 animations for 12 mods and 45 creatures successfully included.
Psalam Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 Okay, it appears that the last thing that impacts your horse is Horny Creatures of Skyrim. For test purposes tick off the esp for it and see if that fixes the issue. By the way, make sure that your versions are current on the mods that impact animal sex like MNC.
Blue Astra Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 34 minutes ago, Psalam said: Okay, it appears that the last thing that impacts your horse is Horny Creatures of Skyrim. For test purposes tick off the esp for it and see if that fixes the issue. By the way, make sure that your versions are current on the mods that impact animal sex like MNC. Didn't work unfortunately
Psalam Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 It sounds like you CTD with the animation. Assuming that's true and that walking up to a horse doesn't cause a crash, walk up to a horse. Open the console with the horse selected. About halfway down on the right side of the screen there will be something that says (something like) last modified by this mod. See what mod that is.
Blue Astra Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, Psalam said: It sounds like you CTD with the animation. Assuming that's true and that walking up to a horse doesn't cause a crash, walk up to a horse. Open the console with the horse selected. About halfway down on the right side of the screen there will be something that says (something like) last modified by this mod. See what mod that is. I don't think I understand what you mean by open the console with the horse selected? So I walk up to the horse, open the console, and then select the horse?
Psalam Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 That is correct. You can practice with NPCs and other creatures if it helps.
Blue Astra Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Psalam said: That is correct. You can practice with NPCs and other creatures if it helps. What do I do once I've click on the horse? Nothing happens. Do I need to type something into the console?
Psalam Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 If you open the console and click on the horse (or NPC or other creature) there should be information displayed on both sides of the screen about whatever you've chosen (in this case the horse). On the right side you are looking for something that says that the horse was last modified by ... .
Blue Astra Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Psalam said: If you open the console and click on the horse (or NPC or other creature) there should be information displayed on both sides of the screen about whatever you've chosen (in this case the horse). On the right side you are looking for something that says that the horse was last modified by ... . This is all I see once I've clicked on the horse
Psalam Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 I hope I remember this correctly, if not I can check at home when I get there. I believe that if you hit the "Tab" key it will go back and forth between the information you have and the information that SkyUI provides.
donttouchmethere Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 Not sure if that might be an issue or still is an issue, maybe ask in @MadMansGun's MNC support topic: > MNC SLAL version is not compatible with crash fixes 12 and will cause a crash near horses I'm using crash fixes 10 atm to prevent that CTD, but not sure if my info is still uptodate- Also your console looks a bit empty, I have the feeling you miss something or an important script addon got overwritten like: > PapyrusUtil 3.3 > JContainers 3.3.0 but I think you don't even have MNC installed ?♂️ oh shit ignore me! Skyrim SE
Blue Astra Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Psalam said: I hope I remember this correctly, if not I can check at home when I get there. I believe that if you hit the "Tab" key it will go back and forth between the information you have and the information that SkyUI provides. Pressing tab does nothing for me I'm afraid I also noticed on MNC there is a note saying about crashes on horses. Could that be the cause?
MadMansGun Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said: Not sure if that might be an issue or still is an issue, maybe ask in @MadMansGun's MNC support topic: > MNC SLAL version is not compatible with crash fixes 12 and will cause a crash near horses I'm using crash fixes 10 atm to prevent that CTD, but not sure if my info is still uptodate- Also your console looks a bit empty, I have the feeling you miss something or an important script addon got overwritten like: > PapyrusUtil 3.3 > JContainers 3.3.0 but I think you don't even have MNC installed ?♂️ oh shit ignore me! Skyrim SE actually SSE has it's own version of crash fix that messed up in the same way, but it should have been fixed by now. 23 minutes ago, Novatham said: Pressing tab does nothing for me I'm afraid I also noticed on MNC there is a note saying about crashes on horses. Could that be the cause? try deleting the horses skeleton.hkx file (Data\meshes\actors\horse\character assets) 2 hours ago, Novatham said: This is all I see once I've clicked on the horse i think something may be wrong with your skse install....in fact that console is not even logging stock skyrim stuff.... so you may have bigger problems going on.
Blue Astra Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, MadMansGun said: actually SSE has it's own version of crash fix that messed up in the same way, but it should have been fixed by now. try deleting the horses skeleton.hkx file (Data\meshes\actors\horse\character assets) i think something may be wrong with your skse install....in fact that console is not even logging stock skyrim stuff.... so you may have bigger problems going on. deleting the skeleton did nothing also my console is usually filled with stock stuff, i just spammed a few empty lines to move them off screen
MadMansGun Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Novatham said: deleting the skeleton did nothing then something is wrong elsewhere, if you have any bash/smash patches they have been known to mess up the horses.
Blue Astra Posted October 11, 2019 Author Posted October 11, 2019 I've solved it myself It turned out I was using the wrong skeletons I had the XP23 skeletons installed instead of the ones from MNC
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