griffinpyros Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 So, I was referred to leave a descriptive post here covering as much as I can. I'm not well versed in this as all my experiences in forum have always been bad ones, until LL. Thankyou for that at the very least. lets get into it. For the last couple years I have been fighting non stop with Skyrim, trying to get my game modded to where they game is actually playable/enjoyable. I've been modding the crap out of it since Dawnguard dropped with varying degrees of success. the last two years though have been pretty bad. I've found the mods I love the most, but I can't get the game to remain stable when changing cells or fast traveling. Equiping new spells incombat would even cause the game to crash and the worst, opening the menu to save the game would also cause the game to crash, all at random. I had been suggested to use Mod Organizer since it had a reputation of being more powerful and accurate as far as installing and setting up mods went, that didn't work. I was then pointed to Vortex and the problems there weren't any better, took longer to get everything installed and the problems ingame were exactly the same. My installed mods list was around 230 mods, in an effort to try to find out what the problem was, I clipped it down to just over 150 (technically closer to 100). I've tried building the game with no Lewd mods, ie Lovers Lab content, just whta would be deemed safe for streaming and the results were the same. We discovered that my 2TB hard drive was failing, which is what we were hoping wouldn't be the case as Caviar Black's were supposed to be more reliable, and for a time it was. We replaced the drive yesterday, did a clean install of Skyrim and its DLC's, SKSE, and ENBoost. Still the same problems are occurring. Spoiler Bug Fixes Alternate Start Live Another Life v:3.1.7 Bug Fixes v:1.0 Crash Fixes v:12 Enhanced Character Edit v:1.5 Fus Ro D-oh v:1.6 Green Water Fix v:2.0 JContainers v:3.3.0.RC.3 NobleBed02 Collision Fix v:? Notification Log v:1.1 One Tweak v:2.1.0.2 Papyrus Util v:3.2 Race Menu v:3.4.5 Run For Your Lives v:3.0 Safty Load v:1.2 SkyUI v:5.1 UI Extensions v:1.2.0 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch v:3.0.13a Animation Female Facial Animation v:2.0 FNiS Behaviors v:7.2 FNiS Creatures v:6.1 Imaginator v:2.0 Net Immerse Override v:3.4.0 XP32 New Animation Pack v:? Pretty Sit Idles v:1.41c Adult Mods Amorous Adventurers v:3.4 Devious Devices: Assets v:3.0 Devious Devices: Expansion v:4.0 Devious Devices: Integration v:4.0 Devious Followers v:2.03a Laura's Bondage Shop v:3.01 Mass Match Maker v:1.13 SexLab Aroused v:2.8b SexLab Framework v:1.62 Full SexLab Tools v:3.0 SexLab Animation Loader v:1.3 SLAL: Billy's Animations v:2.0 SLAL: K4 Animations v:1.5 Schlongs of Skyrim v:3.0.4 Statues (some statue replacers, Mara, Dibella, ect.) Hair, Face, Body Apachii Sky Hair v1.5 Full Apachii Sky Hair Males v1.2 Apachii Sky Hair Female v:1.5 BodySlide & Outfit Studio v:4.7.4 Dimonized UNP v:1.2 Dimonized UNP DIM Face Fix v:1.5 Ethereal Elven Overhaul v:1.1.1 Femanine Argonian Textures [UNP] v:2.0 Femanine Khjiit Textures [UNP] v:2.0 KS Hairdos Renewal v:1.5 Superior Lore-Friendly Hair 1K v:1.12 The Eyes of Beauty v:9.0 The Eyes of Beauty Dawnguard v:7.1 Windsong Skyrim Beauty Project UNP Occidental v:2.0 Gameplay Effects & Changes Apocalypse Magic v:9.20 Convenient Horses v:5.0 Dior Conjure v:1.0 Followers Share Knowledge v:2.1 HDT Physics Extension v:? HDT High Heels v:0.5 Lightweight Potions & Poisons v:2.4 Lockpicking Chalk v:? Lootification v:6.6H Ordinator v:? Spell Crafting v:? Summermyst Enchantments of Skyrim v: 3.0 Unique Loot v:6.0 Immersion A Quality World Map v:9.0.1 Archery Gameplay Overhaul v:1.2 Hearthfire Multiple Adoption v:2.0.15 Immersive Music v:2.0 JK's Skyrim All-In-One v:? RS Children Overhaul v1.2.0 RS Children XPMSE Skeleton Fix v:3.64 Texture Replacers aMidianBorn Blades v:1.0 aMidianBorn Dwarven v:2.0 aMidianBorn Ebony v:1.0 aMidianBorn Ebony Mail v:1.1 aMidianBorn Elven v:1.0 aMidianBorn Fur v:1.0 aMidianBorn Glass v:1.0 aMidianBorn Hide & Studded v:2.0 aMidianBorn Hide aviour v:2.0 aMidianBorn Imperial Light v:1.0 aMidianBorn Iron & Banded v:4.0 aMidianBorn Leather v:1.0 aMidianBorn Nordic v:1.8 aMidianBorn Orcish v:1.0 aMidianBorn Scaled v:2.0 aMidianBorn Steel v:RC4 aMidianBorn Plate v:1.0 aMidianBorn Stormcloak v:1.0 aMidianBorn Wolf & Skyforge v:2.1 aMidianBorn Weapons v:1.9 Rustic Clothing Complete 2K v:? Solitude & Temple Frescoes v:1.2 Tamriel Reloaded v:1.0 Player Homes Underground Bathhouse v:6.0 Creatures & Monsters Smaller Frost Atronachs v:1.1 Clothing Amulets of Skyrim v:4.05 Draconic Bloodline v:1.10 Dragon Lily v:2.0 Lind's Vaermina Robes Revamp v:2.0a Opulent Outfits - Mage Robes of Winterhold Common v:2.5 Opulent Outfits - Mage Robes of Winterhold Replacer v:3.6 Osare Maid Outfit v:1.2 Outfit NPC's v:1.0.3 UNP Naughty Remodel v:1.3 Wedding Rings LeftHand v:1.0 Armour Bucklers Complete v:? Girl's Heavy Armors UNP v:? Lustmord Vampire Armor v:1.2 The Book of UUNP v:1.67 mgc Dwarven Devious Cuirass v:? Weapons Heavy Armory Weapons v:3.3 Lost Long Swords v:? Zim's Immersive Artifacts v:1.4 Companions Velina Velaire v:2.0 NPC Replacers Inhabitants of Skyrim v:1.5 Improved Bards v:2.0 Sybille Stentor Replacer v:? Bijin NPCs v:? Bijin Wives v:3.1.2 Gyot NPC's v:2.8 GCE NPC Replacer v:? GCE NPC Replacer Dawnguard v:? GCE NPC Replacer Facetexture Fix v:? Males of Skyrim v:1.3 Moolgogi's Valerica Replacer v:1.1 Skyrim Beautiful Follower - Eola Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Ingjard Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Lydia Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Njada Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Ria Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Aela Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Annekke Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Borgakh Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Brelyna Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Iona Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Jenassa Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Mjoll2 Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Serana Dralisi Priestess of Azura - Aranea Female Cicero - UNP Female Cicero - Sweet & Sadistic Voice Install Last Relationship Dialogue Overhaul v:2.0 Extensible Follower Framework v:4.0.2 XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended v:4.31 I have made an effort to not install the texture mods and npc replacers, just to see if they had some effect on things, but that didn't work either. This is the most stripped down build I've been able to assemble based on gameplay that actually matters to me. Overall, the game looks great and plays great, but it crashes constantly and I often have to play hours at a time not making much progress, having to save before I use load doors or fast traveling. The worst I've seen are entire dead zone that I wasn't able to enter without the game crashing or, if I somehow got into those dead zones, I would be stuck in there fighting to get out, as walking in any direction would cause the game to crash and fast traveling would also cause the game to crash. Even going as far as uninstalling all my mods, reinstalling them into a clean install of Skyrim and cleaning the save file had no effect. Another time, while using Captured Dreams, after a certain period of time into the Captured Dreams quests, the game would crash immediately before the game would begin loading/unloading when activating a load door. Veladarius and I crammed over it for two hours and couldn't figure it out. The only thing that we managed to get out of it was; if I didn't run Body Slide Batch Build, the game would load and run correctly on a clean install. However, doing that made many of the Devious Devices content invisible and wouldn't load correctly, which kinda defeats the purpose. I'd rather not shelf Skyrim if I can help it, but as it is, its just not playable, or at the very least, my patience for its constant crashing has warn pretty thin and there really isn't any other games that can fill the roll that Skyrim has made for me. To those that can help, thankyou and for those who take the time to look this over and find nothing, thankyou for your time. LoversLab has been the only good experience I've ever had on a forum, probably ever. Thankyou for that aswell.
Grey Cloud Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Well the obvious thing to do would be to get the base, vanilla game stable before loading it with mods. Assuming you have the hardware requirements then you need to double-check that you have Crash Fixes and ENBoost configured correctly.
Psalam Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 13 hours ago, griffinpyros said: So, I was referred to leave a descriptive post here covering as much as I can. I'm not well versed in this as all my experiences in forum have always been bad ones, until LL. Thankyou for that at the very least. lets get into it. For the last couple years I have been fighting non stop with Skyrim, trying to get my game modded to where they game is actually playable/enjoyable. I've been modding the crap out of it since Dawnguard dropped with varying degrees of success. the last two years though have been pretty bad. I've found the mods I love the most, but I can't get the game to remain stable when changing cells or fast traveling. Equiping new spells incombat would even cause the game to crash and the worst, opening the menu to save the game would also cause the game to crash, all at random. I had been suggested to use Mod Organizer since it had a reputation of being more powerful and accurate as far as installing and setting up mods went, that didn't work. I was then pointed to Vortex and the problems there weren't any better, took longer to get everything installed and the problems ingame were exactly the same. My installed mods list was around 230 mods, in an effort to try to find out what the problem was, I clipped it down to just over 150 (technically closer to 100). I've tried building the game with no Lewd mods, ie Lovers Lab content, just whta would be deemed safe for streaming and the results were the same. We discovered that my 2TB hard drive was failing, which is what we were hoping wouldn't be the case as Caviar Black's were supposed to be more reliable, and for a time it was. We replaced the drive yesterday, did a clean install of Skyrim and its DLC's, SKSE, and ENBoost. Still the same problems are occurring. Hide contents Bug Fixes Alternate Start Live Another Life v:3.1.7 Bug Fixes v:1.0 Crash Fixes v:12 Enhanced Character Edit v:1.5 Fus Ro D-oh v:1.6 Green Water Fix v:2.0 JContainers v:3.3.0.RC.3 NobleBed02 Collision Fix v:? Notification Log v:1.1 One Tweak v:2.1.0.2 Papyrus Util v:3.2 Race Menu v:3.4.5 Run For Your Lives v:3.0 Safty Load v:1.2 SkyUI v:5.1 UI Extensions v:1.2.0 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch v:3.0.13a Animation Female Facial Animation v:2.0 FNiS Behaviors v:7.2 FNiS Creatures v:6.1 Imaginator v:2.0 Net Immerse Override v:3.4.0 XP32 New Animation Pack v:? Pretty Sit Idles v:1.41c Adult Mods Amorous Adventurers v:3.4 Devious Devices: Assets v:3.0 Devious Devices: Expansion v:4.0 Devious Devices: Integration v:4.0 Devious Followers v:2.03a Laura's Bondage Shop v:3.01 Mass Match Maker v:1.13 SexLab Aroused v:2.8b SexLab Framework v:1.62 Full SexLab Tools v:3.0 SexLab Animation Loader v:1.3 SLAL: Billy's Animations v:2.0 SLAL: K4 Animations v:1.5 Schlongs of Skyrim v:3.0.4 Statues (some statue replacers, Mara, Dibella, ect.) Hair, Face, Body Apachii Sky Hair v1.5 Full Apachii Sky Hair Males v1.2 Apachii Sky Hair Female v:1.5 BodySlide & Outfit Studio v:4.7.4 Dimonized UNP v:1.2 Dimonized UNP DIM Face Fix v:1.5 Ethereal Elven Overhaul v:1.1.1 Femanine Argonian Textures [UNP] v:2.0 Femanine Khjiit Textures [UNP] v:2.0 KS Hairdos Renewal v:1.5 Superior Lore-Friendly Hair 1K v:1.12 The Eyes of Beauty v:9.0 The Eyes of Beauty Dawnguard v:7.1 Windsong Skyrim Beauty Project UNP Occidental v:2.0 Gameplay Effects & Changes Apocalypse Magic v:9.20 Convenient Horses v:5.0 Dior Conjure v:1.0 Followers Share Knowledge v:2.1 HDT Physics Extension v:? HDT High Heels v:0.5 Lightweight Potions & Poisons v:2.4 Lockpicking Chalk v:? Lootification v:6.6H Ordinator v:? Spell Crafting v:? Summermyst Enchantments of Skyrim v: 3.0 Unique Loot v:6.0 Immersion A Quality World Map v:9.0.1 Archery Gameplay Overhaul v:1.2 Hearthfire Multiple Adoption v:2.0.15 Immersive Music v:2.0 JK's Skyrim All-In-One v:? RS Children Overhaul v1.2.0 RS Children XPMSE Skeleton Fix v:3.64 Texture Replacers aMidianBorn Blades v:1.0 aMidianBorn Dwarven v:2.0 aMidianBorn Ebony v:1.0 aMidianBorn Ebony Mail v:1.1 aMidianBorn Elven v:1.0 aMidianBorn Fur v:1.0 aMidianBorn Glass v:1.0 aMidianBorn Hide & Studded v:2.0 aMidianBorn Hide aviour v:2.0 aMidianBorn Imperial Light v:1.0 aMidianBorn Iron & Banded v:4.0 aMidianBorn Leather v:1.0 aMidianBorn Nordic v:1.8 aMidianBorn Orcish v:1.0 aMidianBorn Scaled v:2.0 aMidianBorn Steel v:RC4 aMidianBorn Plate v:1.0 aMidianBorn Stormcloak v:1.0 aMidianBorn Wolf & Skyforge v:2.1 aMidianBorn Weapons v:1.9 Rustic Clothing Complete 2K v:? Solitude & Temple Frescoes v:1.2 Tamriel Reloaded v:1.0 Player Homes Underground Bathhouse v:6.0 Creatures & Monsters Smaller Frost Atronachs v:1.1 Clothing Amulets of Skyrim v:4.05 Draconic Bloodline v:1.10 Dragon Lily v:2.0 Lind's Vaermina Robes Revamp v:2.0a Opulent Outfits - Mage Robes of Winterhold Common v:2.5 Opulent Outfits - Mage Robes of Winterhold Replacer v:3.6 Osare Maid Outfit v:1.2 Outfit NPC's v:1.0.3 UNP Naughty Remodel v:1.3 Wedding Rings LeftHand v:1.0 Armour Bucklers Complete v:? Girl's Heavy Armors UNP v:? Lustmord Vampire Armor v:1.2 The Book of UUNP v:1.67 mgc Dwarven Devious Cuirass v:? Weapons Heavy Armory Weapons v:3.3 Lost Long Swords v:? Zim's Immersive Artifacts v:1.4 Companions Velina Velaire v:2.0 NPC Replacers Inhabitants of Skyrim v:1.5 Improved Bards v:2.0 Sybille Stentor Replacer v:? Bijin NPCs v:? Bijin Wives v:3.1.2 Gyot NPC's v:2.8 GCE NPC Replacer v:? GCE NPC Replacer Dawnguard v:? GCE NPC Replacer Facetexture Fix v:? Males of Skyrim v:1.3 Moolgogi's Valerica Replacer v:1.1 Skyrim Beautiful Follower - Eola Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Ingjard Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Lydia Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Njada Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Ria Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Aela Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Annekke Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Borgakh Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Brelyna Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Iona Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Jenassa Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Mjoll2 Skyrim Beautiful Follower -Serana Dralisi Priestess of Azura - Aranea Female Cicero - UNP Female Cicero - Sweet & Sadistic Voice Install Last Relationship Dialogue Overhaul v:2.0 Extensible Follower Framework v:4.0.2 XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended v:4.31 I have made an effort to not install the texture mods and npc replacers, just to see if they had some effect on things, but that didn't work either. This is the most stripped down build I've been able to assemble based on gameplay that actually matters to me. Overall, the game looks great and plays great, but it crashes constantly and I often have to play hours at a time not making much progress, having to save before I use load doors or fast traveling. The worst I've seen are entire dead zone that I wasn't able to enter without the game crashing or, if I somehow got into those dead zones, I would be stuck in there fighting to get out, as walking in any direction would cause the game to crash and fast traveling would also cause the game to crash. Even going as far as uninstalling all my mods, reinstalling them into a clean install of Skyrim and cleaning the save file had no effect. Another time, while using Captured Dreams, after a certain period of time into the Captured Dreams quests, the game would crash immediately before the game would begin loading/unloading when activating a load door. Veladarius and I crammed over it for two hours and couldn't figure it out. The only thing that we managed to get out of it was; if I didn't run Body Slide Batch Build, the game would load and run correctly on a clean install. However, doing that made many of the Devious Devices content invisible and wouldn't load correctly, which kinda defeats the purpose. I'd rather not shelf Skyrim if I can help it, but as it is, its just not playable, or at the very least, my patience for its constant crashing has warn pretty thin and there really isn't any other games that can fill the roll that Skyrim has made for me. To those that can help, thankyou and for those who take the time to look this over and find nothing, thankyou for your time. LoversLab has been the only good experience I've ever had on a forum, probably ever. Thankyou for that aswell. I completely agree with what Grey Cloud has just told you. You need a stable Skyrim platform on which to build. This is a blog written by a veteran user and walks you through the basics of getting your game stable from the beginning: Look through it and make certain that you haven't skipped any steps in putting your load order together. And speaking of steps take a look at this as well: https://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.10.0 It may sound harsh giving you these reading assignments but if you do them you'll find you can play Skyrim until your heart's content. Don't fret, it's not as bad as it looks. ?
griffinpyros Posted September 24, 2019 Author Posted September 24, 2019 Thanks you two. I'll dig through that when I'm more awake and hopefully, positive results.
griffinpyros Posted September 24, 2019 Author Posted September 24, 2019 Ok, I'm convinced this is magic. I changed 2 little things in the prefs files and suddenly the game is completely stable, after years of fighting with the damn game, it just works now. I can't thank you enough.
Zaflis Posted September 24, 2019 Posted September 24, 2019 4 hours ago, griffinpyros said: Ok, I'm convinced this is magic. I changed 2 little things in the prefs files and suddenly the game is completely stable, after years of fighting with the damn game, it just works now. I can't thank you enough. It would be really helpful if you'd mention what those 2 prefs were?
griffinpyros Posted September 25, 2019 Author Posted September 25, 2019 Oh, sorry. I edited these file, based on the above walkthrough/blog post. - enblocal.ini ExpandedSystemMemoryX64=false [engine] anisotrophic filtering= 16 enablevsync=true - CrashFixPlugin.ini UseOSAllocators=1 AlignHeapAllocate=1 - SKSE.ini [Display] iTintTextureResolution=2048 [General] ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 EnableDiagnostics=1 [Memory] DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768 ScrapHeapSizeMB=256 [Debug] WriteMiniDumps=1
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