Guest Lady Luck Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 Pc ( Linux, Macintosh and windows OS ) Pros [ Generic and major ] Generic activity - You can watch internet video - Make Websites - Make servers for game - Modding your operating System " change UI interface " - Able To set security Firewall to certain Games so hackers can't Hack Your account E.g Zone Alarm etc - Port Forwarding to increase bandwith sharing to other players so ping dont get too crazy - Create your own game " Mugen , Game Creator " - Download Free Movies Gaming activity - Modding games - Script your own cheats - Large Scale Battle Able to support 100-129 Players { Noteable mentioned Planet Side II } - Patch to support Real Fix to Get rid of Bugs/Glitch - More Matured Rating game aka " AO rating " - Superior Grabigs {ENB mods} Cons - Requirement Needed For Graphics in Newer games - Needing update every month - Lack of fighting games - Lack of security Protection { Threat from hackers} - Blue Screen of death { The most Scary Error of all time that Shut down your computer completely if you lucky it reboot your computer 32 bit suffer of safety} - Black Screen of death { GPU failure you cant do anything about that , if you think macintosh doesnt have failure ah u way wrong frendo} - Freezes will happend on random occasion if services are busy - Hang will happen if you play intensive games or use intensive Application Console { Wii-u , PS3 and Xbox 360 } Pros [ Generic and major ] - Awosome Dashboard - Easily Organized your games on your hardrive - DLC support always come to console First - Exclusivity games that pc didn't have - MSAA X64/AA X12 Support for newer firmwares - Bad ass Accessories " Remember Steel Battalion 40 button " - Tons and tons of awosome Fighting game - Free online game PS3 and wii -u only - You don't need Requirement to run newer Games only hardrive to install the disc. - Kinect Gaming on Skyrim is just awosome! cons [ Generic and major ] - Small Scale Multiplayer atm console only allow up to 20-50 players - BAD BAD Lag FPS is always have the hate! - playing fps on console is like er.. ok im going over mouse/keyboard - Console Multiplayer hoster likes to ban you alot , if you got shot by random trolls on the online community when certain players didn't like you , potientally your hardware ID will suffer banning without a question its mandatory to avoid online gaming if you dont want to get ass kicked by trolls if you pro at certain game. - Stupid support especially microsoft xbox support oh how i hate you bitches - really Retarded DLC shop system if i purchased a game which has already dlc included inside of the disc i need to rebuy again with my credit card WHAT THE FUCK?! - the game itself is expensive shit let alone 49.99$ DOLLARS yeah less then what pc has , if steam has sales its way cheaper then console its the truth. - the hardware failures , no matter if you casual gamer on xbox or ps3 the machine will fail in one run no matter how short you play dust will always attract that damn thing and causes the hardware to break! - Scratches how many of you guys suffers this i am good at taking care all my discs and it scratched way to kick my own ass for more $$$. - Joystick analog broken if the analog is broken u cant do nothing just stay there and stare at it , what if you had no money to replace it you fucked - someone had brilliant idea that all the newer games must run on hardrive which take forever to install WTF are you thinking? - if the disc brake you had to return it or trade it on different game and that game brake you can only return once! - Not all kinect game are awosome some of them just utterly retarded some of them broken and not playable ,and not felicia day you are wrong Kinect game sucks. so in conclusion its up to you to judge the article this is my experinece.
Arcueid Brunestud Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 Agree to most part of it. It's a damn shame that many good rpg, action adventures, and fighting game didn't released into PC. Always wanted to play FF series again, but my last console (PS2) had die on me almost 2 year. Now I left with tons of PS2 DVD that surely collecting dust all year around, dunno if it can be run anymore after all this years. Damn it, my money! I wonder how do they play Killzone or FPS on console and can shoot people without fretting to much about the reticle not properly aimed at.
Strelky Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 PC forever. I don't see why so many of the those console gamers hate on something so versatile
Guest Lady Luck Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 Agree to most part of it. It's a damn shame that many good rpg' date=' action adventures, and fighting game didn't released into PC. Always wanted to play FF series again, but my last console (PS2) had die on me almost 2 year. Now I left with tons of PS2 DVD that surely collecting dust all year around, dunno if it can be run anymore after all this years. Damn it, my money! I wonder how do they play Killzone or FPS on console and can shoot people without fretting to much about the reticle not properly aimed at. [/quote'] this is how i feel the same reaction we both had , i agree most part of it you cant deny that pc is superior because no matter how breakable the machine we can always replace it to a new parts if the other parts are expensive we can find more cheaper that cost less then 100 bucks but console let alone on the accessories wil cost you more $$ dont get me started on fF DLC its just horrendously expensive like seriously who had the right idea to pitch in DLC on lightning story that just ruin the whole shit , i play killzone before on console the only worth while killzone series was the 3rd person shooter the downside of the killzone on FPS A freaking exclusive product yeah exclusive what if i dont want to buy a console fps are meant for pc because of the mouse and accuracy , i play call of duty on console and u know what boy aiming just terible . the only thing that console are so good games like assasins creed i love 3rd person shooter on console anything fps in generic i avoid it at all cost. games like FF is fine but the dlc thing just ruin the whole shit. for the costume ugh i wish they had it for pc so we all can mod the crap out of it.
windpl Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 My experience with "new gen" console gaming. Fable 2 came out. I bought a xbox360 I bought fable 2 Played Fable 2 It lagged like shit Bought hdd for xbox360 Still lagged like shit More playing fable 2 X360 got fried when playing fable 2 Renamed xbox 360 to xshit and I threw it through the window.
Irishredneck Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 My experience with "new gen" console gaming. Fable 2 came out. I bought a xbox360 I bought fable 2 Played Fable 2 It lagged like shit Bought hdd for xbox360 Still lagged like shit More playing fable 2 X360 got fried when playing fable 2 Renamed xbox 360 to xshit and I threw it through the window. That made me laugh out loud. Had a similar issue with a PS2 that was given to me. Lasted about 3 days before I gave it away. There are only PCs for proper gaming. Anything else is just a toy for kids/children.
deathparade Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 I love the openness of PCs modding, Hosting servers etc i have a PS2 which i love for Red Faction and Ratchet and Clank and and PS3 that iam about to sell... and with the money i buy a new well deserved videocard
gregathit Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 Personally I am not a big console fan. I think the restrictions put into them really handicap them a great deal. I think if Sony and Microsoft would unlock their boxes and allow them to function as mini-computers it would greatly help their sales. Now I understand that much of the locks have to do with support issues, you can work around that by popups that void some warranties as far as the OS and all that jazz. I also understand the need for locks on multiplayer. Neither of these is a show stopper as the PC's have been doing these things for years.
polluxval Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 i think this poll is not fair. its like saying: aliens vs the smurfs. aliens being pc and smurfs being the smurfs because the consoles are worse.
nanogenesis Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 After spending nearly 1500$ on PCs, and it being outdated, I'm pretty much gonna swing to the Console side. A PC should atleast last me for 3 years, to a maximum of 5. The pace right now is you need to be upgraing atleast every 2 years. And on the PC side, we get several butchered console ports, mostly from a game I find I can like, but end up hating it because of the awful port quality. Maybe the taste of games I have are done better on console. Though being a PC gamer is sure fun, in more ways than one. However with the costs involved, not sure I can put up with it. Probably if I had a job with a more stable income, I'd be happier being on the PC. Now when I say a PC only lasts 2 years, I mean, say I owned a GTX460 which played games smoothy, but then requirements elevated, and now a GTX660 is required to play at the same speed of the GTX460. Also the GTX660 has some 192bit issue I read about, which certainly makes me want to stay away from that card. Multi-GPU solution ain't viable for several reasons. The only thing that can stay good for say a 5 year period is a good CPU. Of course I could still play games on Dx9 hardware with a 6600GT, but well I don't just want my games to run. They should be smooth atleast in the 25-30fps range with a little eye-candy. Also games being dumbed down every generation makes owning high-end components questionable.
Guest Lady Luck Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 After spending nearly 1500$ on PCs' date=' and it being outdated, I'm pretty much gonna swing to the Console side. [/quote'] lol $1,500 Really , check out mine , mine cost around $3,400 Custom Forge case , GTX 280 card , corei5 4gb ram , 1tb hardrive. anyway just messing with you but this is my actual rig , When a person says there's no PC Vs console < -- really please do elaborate why we shouldn't add " VS " btw you don't see that on Next gen console comparing with newest pc we pretty much have everything now"What console didn't have" i love pc because it's good not only for gaming you can also watch movies, convert it into your own tv " console already have that" but not as massive as pc , another reason why pc is superior because there's 1 out of 1000 things we can do on it if i list that it would take forever to remember , the best thing about pc is the mods 'freedom all the way'
windpl Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 After spending nearly 1500$ on PCs' date=' and it being outdated, I'm pretty much gonna swing to the Console side. A PC should atleast last me for 3 years, to a maximum of 5. The pace right now is you need to be upgraing atleast every 2 years. And on the PC side, we get several butchered console ports, mostly from a game I find I can like, but end up hating it because of the awful port quality. Maybe the taste of games I have are done better on console. Though being a PC gamer is sure fun, in more ways than one. However with the costs involved, not sure I can put up with it. Probably if I had a job with a more stable income, I'd be happier being on the PC. Now when I say a PC only lasts 2 years, I mean, say I owned a GTX460 which played games smoothy, but then requirements elevated, and now a GTX660 is required to play at the same speed of the GTX460. Also the GTX660 has some 192bit issue I read about, which certainly makes me want to stay away from that card. Multi-GPU solution ain't viable for several reasons. The only thing that can stay good for say a 5 year period is a good CPU. Of course I could still play games on Dx9 hardware with a 6600GT, but well I don't just want my games to run. They should be smooth atleast in the 25-30fps range with a little eye-candy. Also games being dumbed down every generation makes owning high-end components questionable. [/quote'] About playing smoothly on consoles. Go to someone that have xbxo 360 and ask him to play Fable 3. Then rethink your argument.
Veta Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 PC forever. I don't see why so many of the those console gamers hate on something so versatile They hate because they cant make a pc of their own and buy 1500$ for facebook machines which barely get 2 gigs of ram and anything close to good , also because they dont like to think they'd rather pay 20 more $ on every game rather than installing it themselves on a good pc. My HDD had a crash with the head thingy last week (lost all the good porn Oh and the saves too) going tic tic every two seconds so I decided to see what a decent pc would cost me and I shit you not it was less than 500 euros with 8 gigs of ram 2gigas graphics card a pentium cpu a more than decent motherboard and a 500 HDD ( has anyone got an SSD are they any good?) more than I could ever need . And all of them were fast too Hz wise .
windpl Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 SSD is gamer wet dream. You can't have anything faster than SSD. But it is extremely expensive comparing to disc HDDs.
nanogenesis Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 About playing smoothly on consoles. Go to someone that have xbxo 360 and ask him to play Fable 3. Then rethink your argument. So how good would a 9400GT or any low end GPU paired with a dual core or i3 run a game? I bet the Xbox 360 would run it way better than that, with better eye-candy.
gregathit Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 About playing smoothly on consoles. Go to someone that have xbxo 360 and ask him to play Fable 3. Then rethink your argument. So how good would a 9400GT or any low end GPU paired with a dual core or i3 run a game? I bet the Xbox 360 would run it way better than that' date=' with better eye-candy. [/quote'] Depends on the HD speed, amount of RAM, the OS, and of course the game. Some games the PC would smoke the xbox and others that are optimized for the xbox would clearly look better on it. We really are comparing apples and fireman's boots here. Neither one is bad but trying eat a fireman's boot is kinda silly. So is trying to fit an apple on your foot.... Consoles are fine for the casual gamer that isn't interested in mods. The console is also a far cheaper investment. If you want to get the most from a particular game or games, tweaking it via mods or other editing tools then the PC is the way to go, provided you can scrape together the cash for it of course.
polluxval Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 not to mention companies are giving pc console optimizations wich end being crap), some examples are: assassins creed 3, hitman absolution and not to mention RAGE, wich is an example of how optimizing should NOT be done.
Guest Lady Luck Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 not to mention companies are giving pc console optimizations wich end being crap)' date=' some examples are: assassins creed 3, hitman absolution and not to mention RAGE, wich is an example of how optimizing should NOT be done. [/quote'] sorry but had to correct you on this one you wanna know why the optimization is bad on pc is because non overclock pc is horrible the frame rate is locked so you can't do anything about it " if you refer factory shipped pc " on the other hand you realize overclock technology right sure if my fps is crap , i can adjust the speed i want on my sandy bridge " now proud owner of ivy bridge technology " i5 and then double clocked on my ati 7 card i got decent 60-120 fps if i overclock it properly. The rest the only solution to fps crapping on your system especially AMD/ATI product its the patches itself , sometimes patches will help the game has smoother gameplay i can play all these game you listed without suffering any fps loss.
polluxval Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 well you have a point there but i wasnt talking about low fps, i was talking about being able to play the game. visit the RAGE steam forums, many people cant play the game at all, even when meeting the "recommended" requirements, just because id software stabbed pc on the back. Also, assassins creed 3 had a very poor fps and massive stutter even with high-end video cards until they released a patch. yes, they fixed it (for some poeple), but im talking about the retail version. pc its getting the spoils!! thats not fair!! (using Aretino's voice)
Guest Lady Luck Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 well you have a point there but i wasnt talking about low fps' date=' i was talking about being able to play the game. visit the RAGE steam forums, many people cant play the game at all, even when meeting the "recommended" requirements, just because id software stabbed pc on the back. Also, assassins creed 3 had a very poor fps and massive stutter even with high-end video cards until they released a patch. yes, they fixed it (for some poeple), but im talking about the retail version. pc its getting the spoils!! thats not fair!! (using Aretino's voice) [/quote'] yeah well i can play all these games you listed without any lag like i said , my pc is decent you know if you willing to pay $$$ that will get rid of the problem , i have AC3 retail version and i can play this without lag " well seriously need to patch the game to the latest version " and then download latest driver that's least solution for non factory clocked pc , and doom BFG i can run ultraX2 mod with high density quality but capped FPS to 50-60 The thing is If you want to enjoy pc full potential it's all about overclock if gpu don't work squeeze performance on the core itself but watch out the temperature i always use prime 95 for my overclock needs that's how i know i can throw any game with 50-120 fps max way above 250 and 350 frame rate [ i been on that level , never again i will try to overclock shit ] will crash your pc even worst BSOD or black/Blue screen of death GPU stop responding , i had experience on this once . oh don't get me started with macinbullshit , i have one pc that cost $2,500 Corei5 [ivy bridge] macintosh , you wanna know the so amazing hardware on mac if you overclock it say twist the perfomance to 126 is the max for macintosh, one week later Bam! power supply overheated there's no guaranteed your hardware is gonna survive , you think mac is strong , go ask mac user they know how pain the overclock feature on mac especially mac os x. Any mac hardware is fragile therefore it's a no no to overclock on that one if you insist doing so that's like signing death warrant instantly. this is why i like windows platform pc the hardware can last longer then macintosh.
ChancellorKremlin Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 I've not read this thread properly, I've just caught some of the last comments. I'm a PC man through and through, but I can't help but think certain people have a point when they say with a PC, you spend hundreds if not thousands of your well earned cash, and the results can sometimes be... underwhelming. Case in point, I have an AMD FX Bulldozer 8 core, overclocked at 4.2GHZ, 16GB ddr 3 ram, an AMD ATI Radeon HD 7970 3gb, with a 1200 watz PSU. I get about 10-50 FPS in FNV. Not even a joke. I do get about 80+ FPS on The Witcher 2, or Crysis 2, which is awesome, but the point is, the driver bs is really killing the game market out there for a lot of people. What works for nVidia people doesn't for ATI, vice versa, prices keep going up, upgrades last less and less time. And least with consoles, you pay x amount of money, and you know you'll have a "top of the range" console vis-a-vis all the others who use it, for a good 5-8 years. You buy a PC and next months its oudated and your drivers no longer supported. This is the kind of shit the PC development world needs to get its shit together over. If it keeps like this, the PC will more and more be relegated to a niche market of developers and hardcore gamers.
CanShield Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 IF console manufacturing companies allowed consumers the freedom to create mods even if they required screening, and one could buy upgradable parts. Wait a tic a pc does that, and I do not have to ask permission to utilize a game to my preferences. Yes companies attempt to micro manage games to maximize profit, but compared to consoles which are in my opinion the idea of a law states form of freedom gaming. The PC industry is not without its own detractors. With stringent hardware/software "games have some of the worst DRM" by companies, such as Ubisoft "find the name profane"; or EA "they will bring about the rise of the machines". I would not have a preference if either one of them provided, an open ended system which allowed unrestricted hardware/Software changes with the legitimate owner "me" permitted to do everything I want without over-site, or restraint. This would be better phrased consumers versus billion dollar entertainment corporations.
Sarnaath Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 I'm happy with both PC and console. Back in 2007, I got burned by way too many new PC releases around xmas time that were buggy as hell, CTDs, etc. Prior to that I had been PC all the way, but afterwards I gave more attention to Xbox. I like consoles because there are no driver issues, the games have less critical bugs (in my experience). You can buy an Xbox game the week it comes out and expect to have a great experience playing it immediately. With a PC game - you might, or might not - it's significantly more variable in my experience. Maybe PC games have gotten better over the last few years, but back in 2007, after decade of PC only gaming, I had had enough. Later, I went back to school had no time to troubleshoot driver and patch issues. When I had time to game, the game had to work. Consoles by and large deliver that better than PC (again, in my experience). Currently I'm starting to use the PC for more games. I'll always play games like Oblivion, Skyrim, Witcher, etc. on the PC. Not just for the mods but for the graphics. Other games, especially FPS, I'll play on the Xbox. While I prefer using a mouse & keyboard, console controllers aren't that bad (although my aiming will never be as good on a thumbstick as with a mouse). But, OTOH, I'd never buy a Bethesda game less than a year after it comes out. Preferably longer so all the inevitable bugs are fixed. One other comment that's been missing from this thread: environment. On my PC I'm at a computer hutch, in an office chair, with old game DVDs, papers, speakers, etc all around, on a 24" monitor. When playing on my Xbox though, I'm sitting on my recliner couch, with middle fold down tray, a beer on the tray, a 32" 1080p TV, stereo speakers. That's not a bad gaming environment IMO.
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