Militus Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Hey all, Recently I had issues keeping a stable game, I semi-fixed it and determined some of the AAF Patches for Crazy/Leito caused it (yes, I'm running an older version of the game as I loathe constantly updating). Release's BadEnd animations and Boston Breeder also seem to cause my game to not work right, so I simply turned those off. Now I'm trying to create a female character (which I had hoped to use Boston Breeder for, sadly) and I noticed that my characters' eyebrow colour does not change when I change her hair colour. Secondly, when it starts animating, her breasts go for normal, youthful-ish to the 'old', more saggy type that some NPCs have I noticed. How can I change what type of breasts she has during animations, and how can I fix the eyebrow issue? Or, not as important, any idea what could cause Boston Breeder to do this? 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mashup47 Posted August 16, 2019 Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Militus said: Hey all, Recently I had issues keeping a stable game, I semi-fixed it and determined some of the AAF Patches for Crazy/Leito caused it (yes, I'm running an older version of the game as I loathe constantly updating). Release's BadEnd animations and Boston Breeder also seem to cause my game to not work right, so I simply turned those off. Now I'm trying to create a female character (which I had hoped to use Boston Breeder for, sadly) and I noticed that my characters' eyebrow colour does not change when I change her hair colour. Secondly, when it starts animating, her breasts go for normal, youthful-ish to the 'old', more saggy type that some NPCs have I noticed. How can I change what type of breasts she has during animations, and how can I fix the eyebrow issue? Or, not as important, any idea what could cause Boston Breeder to do this? Load Order! 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I made edit's in the above spoiler of your load order I spotted. But at the end of the day there Will be bug's if your not updating mods that have been updated.
Militus Posted August 16, 2019 Author Posted August 16, 2019 No, the bodySlide will not work in MO2 properly for some reason. Can't it just have a .. normal body, without me having to put in something like that? I honestly have no idea how to. I don't need a special body, just not old tits Which of the Hookers would be best to keep, to go with AAF & Fusion City?
Militus Posted August 18, 2019 Author Posted August 18, 2019 With a risk of summoning demons, I'm giving this a little bump.
mashup47 Posted August 18, 2019 Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Militus said: With a risk of summoning demons, I'm giving this a little bump. No demons here. keep Hotc if you wont Quests else use the SE version. When an animation scene start's with AAF a clone npc of the player is used, so this is why I say you need bodyslide, and it dose say you need bodyslide if using CBBE. (copyed from here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/124848-aaf-a-comprehensive-installation-guide-and-resource-collection-wip/ ) Spoiler Chapter III: Female / Male Body You now have to chose from one of the listed combinations below. For example you cannot use BodyTalk V2 and CBBE. Combination A: Fusion Girl Required: Fusion Girl 1.30 Required: BodySlide and Outfit Studio 4.7.4 Required: ZaZ-Extended-Skeleton (ZeX) 2.0 Optional: CBP Physics for Fallout 4 0.1.3 Suggested: Chose one MTM CBP Physics Preset 1.7 or ZCBP - CBP Configs for ZeX Bodies 1.05 BodyTalk V2 Required: BodyTalk V2 2.70 Required: ZaZ-Extended-Skeleton (ZeX) 2.0 Optional: BodySlide and Outfit Studio 4.7.4 Optional: CBP Physics for Fallout 4 0.1.3 Suggested: Chose one MTM CBP Physics Preset 1.7 or ZCBP - CBP Configs for ZeX Bodies 1.05 Combination B: Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE- Required: Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer 2.6.2 Optional: BodySlide and Outfit Studio 4.7.4 Optional: CBP Physics for Fallout 4 0.1.3 Suggested: Chose one MTM CBP Physics Preset 1.7 or ZCBP - CBP Configs for ZeX Bodies 1.05 Enhanced Vanilla Bodies Required: AAF - Modders Resource Optional: Additional Body Textures 2 Optional: Hairy Men for EVB 1.0 Optional: CBP Physics for Fallout 4 0.1.3 Suggested: Chose one MTM CBP Physics Preset 1.7 or ZCBP - CBP Configs for ZeX Bodies 1.05
Militus Posted August 18, 2019 Author Posted August 18, 2019 I have bodyslide, but I just can't get it registered in MO2 and the page on Bodyslide won't help. So I'm not sure how to solve this.
mashup47 Posted August 18, 2019 Posted August 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, Militus said: I have bodyslide, but I just can't get it registered in MO2 and the page on Bodyslide won't help. So I'm not sure how to solve this. this mite help:
Militus Posted August 20, 2019 Author Posted August 20, 2019 Thanks. I managed to get that working, atleast.. but how do I do it specifically for one character? I only want it for this particular character I'm making, not for all the female characters in the game. Or is this only for the player character? Had hoped to change the body of one of my Settlers too but I'm guessing that won't work. (Edit: Or just change the face/hair, is that possible with ShowRaceMenu or something or whatever, an ingame command? or LooksMenu or whatevs. ) That still leaves the question aswell: What about the eyebrow colours that won't change?
Militus Posted August 22, 2019 Author Posted August 22, 2019 And is it possible to do this for specific ingame chars? Does it always male new ESPs for each?
mashup47 Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Militus said: And is it possible to do this for specific ingame chars? Does it always male new ESPs for each? yes with other mods you are able to setup unique Companion's and players with custom body shape and clothing. you can also use a mod like LooksMenu Body gen for random Body shapes. I would say use unique NPC but with the latest version 50% of male spawns are never nude. You can also check out Fusion girl and see what it has to other, as that seems to be the latest CBBE based body being used by a lot of people .
Nebuchadnezzer2 Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 11:46 PM, Militus said: but how do I do it specifically for one character? I only want it for this particular character I'm making, not for all the female characters in the game. Or is this only for the player character? All of em use the same malebody.nif and femalebody.nif. You'd need something like Unique Player/NPC's to have various different bodies used. Main downside of that is anything with Unique Player/NPC's is a pain to troubleshoot/work around. Can't remember if it's default-functionality or from something like LMCC, but NPC's bodies are randomised/semi-randomised with the in-game 'weight triangle'. Have one settler atm who's the definition of Curvy, while my PC is fairly in-shape. Also keep in mind you need to build the bodies [CBBE/FG/BT2/EVB] with 'build morphs' checked in BS. On 8/20/2019 at 11:46 PM, Militus said: (Edit: Or just change the face/hair, is that possible with ShowRaceMenu or something or whatever, an ingame command? or LooksMenu or whatevs. ) Show Looks Menu, yes. slm ## with ## being their ID On 8/20/2019 at 11:46 PM, Militus said: That still leaves the question aswell: What about the eyebrow colours that won't change? That should change with their hair colour. If not, issues somewhere.
Militus Posted August 23, 2019 Author Posted August 23, 2019 Thank you very much for the reply! So TLDR the only thing changing is the Player body with BS, is what you're saying? In that case if I want diff players I'll have to just make a diff ESP for each playthrough? And okay will keep that checked, thanks! Ohhh, okay sweet tyvm! slm or showlooksmenu? It isn't changing is the issue. Hence I posted the load order. Edit: I noticed the eyebrows is on NPCs too.
Invictusblade Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 so I am a bit confused by this thread, so I am going to talk about how I do my game. using bodyslide, build all outfits with morphs ticked using the CBBE Zero then I use bodygen to randomly give women different bodies in game, I tweak the player into the shape that I want using sliders and face morphs which I then save as a preset (for future plays) and I play the game. bodygen overview (this is based on my knowledge so it could be wrong) 1. make a folder inside "\Fallout 4\Data\F4SE\Plugins\F4EE\BodyGen\" called whatever your final mod is for instance in my version it is "StartMeUp.esp" 2. inside that folder, copy some config files called morphs and templates. templates contains the morph information such as breast size using morph titles for instance "Deathclaw_Hunter=Ankles@0.30, AppleCheeks@0.55:1.0, ..." morphs govern the templates such as "Boston_Breeder.esp|All|Female|HumanRace=Deathclaw_Hunter|..." 3. and that should be it, just keep in mind formatting and syntax when you work on your own. (btw when you are making your own templates, keep an eye out for negative numbers(-0.09) and big numbers(125(=1.25)) and small numbers (001(=0.01)) I am posting my config files as an example morphs.ini templates.ini
Militus Posted August 23, 2019 Author Posted August 23, 2019 Thank you for very clearly explaining, I haven't tried yet but just reading it confuses the absolute hell out of me. People are giving contradictory explanations. One says it's as simple as it is in the video, then this, then that. I don't need to modify my character too much all in all either, I just was going to pick the premade athletic body or something. But want it only for my PLAYER character. My main questions remaining are: If I wanted a specific body for an NPC like a settler, how would I do that? Or would that only work for the looksmenu, not sex wise? And my eyebrow colour is broken, it wont change from brown.
mashup47 Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, Militus said: Thank you for very clearly explaining, I haven't tried yet but just reading it confuses the absolute hell out of me. People are giving contradictory explanations. One says it's as simple as it is in the video, then this, then that. I don't need to modify my character too much all in all either, I just was going to pick the premade athletic body or something. But want it only for my PLAYER character. My main questions remaining are: If I wanted a specific body for an NPC like a settler, how would I do that? Or would that only work for the looksmenu, not sex wise? And my eyebrow colour is broken, it wont change from brown. you will need to use a mod like Unique Player if you wont your character separate from npc's. With a Unique Player setup: example ( you can have the player slim/shaven and all npc's big/hairy) .
Militus Posted August 23, 2019 Author Posted August 23, 2019 So unless I have that, and I make a body in BodySlide, all of my females in the ENTIRE game are going to look just the exact same?
mashup47 Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Militus said: So unless I have that, and I make a body in BodySlide, all of my females in the ENTIRE game are going to look just the exact same? yup excluding looksMenu when naked unless you use a method like @Invictaxe.or @Nebuchadnezzer2 posted.
Militus Posted August 23, 2019 Author Posted August 23, 2019 Got'cha. I guess I shouldn't see other naked women when playing my fem anyway, she's straight. This is only when the ESP is activated, right? Alsooo my LooksMenu crashes when going naked, gotta get naked THEM do it for me haha. Switching 'Clothes' crashes, but that's a minor deal! And I don't suppose anybody knows how to fix the eyebrows? Thanks a lot guys. ❤️
mashup47 Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, Militus said: Got'cha. I guess I shouldn't see other naked women when playing my fem anyway, she's straight. This is only when the ESP is activated, right? Alsooo my LooksMenu crashes when going naked, gotta get naked THEM do it for me haha. Switching 'Clothes' crashes, but that's a minor deal! And I don't suppose anybody knows how to fix the eyebrows? Thanks a lot guys. ❤️ By the sounds of it you need to check your installed mods if your getting CTD, before installing any more mods. start with checking you have FSE installed and matching your game version.
Militus Posted August 23, 2019 Author Posted August 23, 2019 Everything checks, yes. I am using everything on the same 'date' and it only CTD's in specific instances, like doing that. I'm over a month into my game with fully built up settlements. I'm not starting a new game/breaking this save by uninstalling/reinstalling anything. I'm afraid it also didn't answer me question about the ESP activation resulting in the new body or not.
Invictusblade Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 ok, using the morphs and templates with the post I made above, I will give an example of how it should work with a single NPC. I believe it is something like is the following for the player All|Female|7=Deathclaw_Hunter and/or All|Female|14=Deathclaw_Hunter or maybe just 7=Deathclaw_Hunter 14=Deathclaw_Hunter
mashup47 Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 48 minutes ago, Militus said: Everything checks, yes. I am using everything on the same 'date' and it only CTD's in specific instances, like doing that. I'm over a month into my game with fully built up settlements. I'm not starting a new game/breaking this save by uninstalling/reinstalling anything. I'm afraid it also didn't answer me question about the ESP activation resulting in the new body or not. sorry which esp are you disabling/enabling. The New body is created by you building it in BodysSide with morphs enabled.
Militus Posted August 23, 2019 Author Posted August 23, 2019 Thank you Invictaxe I'll give that a try when I can! @mashup47 You linked a video, and in that video they make an ESP in the end.
mashup47 Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, Militus said: Thank you Invictaxe I'll give that a try when I can! @mashup47 You linked a video, and in that video they make an ESP in the end. I see what you mean sorry I have never used MO as I use NMM. but seeing that yes your right, if you do not activate the override the changes will not take effect.
Militus Posted August 25, 2019 Author Posted August 25, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 4:07 PM, Invictaxe said: so I am a bit confused by this thread, so I am going to talk about how I do my game. using bodyslide, build all outfits with morphs ticked using the CBBE Zero then I use bodygen to randomly give women different bodies in game, I tweak the player into the shape that I want using sliders and face morphs which I then save as a preset (for future plays) and I play the game. bodygen overview (this is based on my knowledge so it could be wrong) 1. make a folder inside "\Fallout 4\Data\F4SE\Plugins\F4EE\BodyGen\" called whatever your final mod is for instance in my version it is "StartMeUp.esp" 2. inside that folder, copy some config files called morphs and templates. templates contains the morph information such as breast size using morph titles for instance "Deathclaw_Hunter=Ankles@0.30, AppleCheeks@0.55:1.0, ..." morphs govern the templates such as "Boston_Breeder.esp|All|Female|HumanRace=Deathclaw_Hunter|..." 3. and that should be it, just keep in mind formatting and syntax when you work on your own. (btw when you are making your own templates, keep an eye out for negative numbers(-0.09) and big numbers(125(=1.25)) and small numbers (001(=0.01)) I am posting my config files as an example morphs.ini 1.91 kB · 0 downloads templates.ini 37.79 kB · 0 downloads I can't seem to find any 'CBBE Zero'. As for the ingame changing, it doesn't say as soon as sex happens. It gets a random body, so not sure if the sliders really help sadly. I don't suppose you could guide me through it step by step sometime, on Discord or something? (chat, not voice nessescarily.) Edit: So I found a pre-made body that's almost perfect, the fit bigger boobs nude (others are too big for the character to fit). I build the batch, now I'm kinda stuck-- I didnt do any of the config stuff yet.
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