Suggestions On My .esp's Priorities & Load Order

[Ohyes]

     Hey doods, I've been fiddling around making everything nice and neat so far in terms for my playthrough and was wondering if I can get some opinions on what you guys think of the esp placements I got in my load order. I maunally sorted all of this myself while observing what overwrites what but I also wanted to hear from other peopl eif the esp's I have are in the right spots for what I got! I've play tested a bunch and I havent CTD'S unless I purposely start the game wrong are try to make it crash, but I have been crashing on random times I save my game. But I have been getting slight stutters, especially when npcs start popping in but when that doesnt happen Im getting 56-60 fps. I might be trimming my load order some as I do realise that its getting a bit on the script heavy side. Any opinions are welcomed!

 

 

 

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HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
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Campfire.esm
AtronachCrossing.esp
SexLab.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
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AMatterOfTime.esp
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RaceMenu.esp
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SOSRaceMenu.esp
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SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
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XPMSE.esp
SwordplayFinishers.esp
Blues Skyrim.esp
RavenCastle.esp
darkproject.esp
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Vigilant Voiced.esp
Darkend.esp
Missives.esp
Unslaad.esp
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Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
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DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp
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Xanthys.esp
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Kmatu Credit.esp
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[Grey Cloud]

16 hours ago, Ohyes said:

But I have been getting slight stutters, especially when npcs start popping in but when that doesnt happen Im getting 56-60 fps.

These are memory-related.

[Ohyes]

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

These are memory-related.

yep! I managed to fix it by tweaking my enb local file by giving more reserved memory and going into crash fixes as well by giving the custom block more memory as well and deleting the skse memory patch line of code, I just completed the 28 Step Stress test for skyrim and only crashed after I started screwing around with it but I started to lose 15 fps after I completed the test

[Grey Cloud]

27 minutes ago, Ohyes said:

the 28 Step Stress test for skyrim

Say what?

 

Glad you're up and running.

[woodsman30]

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

Say what?

I believe the theory is 28 people in a cell = a stable game but. many of my towns cities have way more than that.

 

21 hours ago, Ohyes said:

esp placements I got in my load order.

Placement is important but a plan on what you want your Skyrim to be is far more important. Your plan should be what you want to look the best in order of priority for me it is people and places I believe at last total I have close to 20,000 npc in game. Plan before your mod = a stable game and a happy play-through just my two cents.

[Grey Cloud]

43 minutes ago, woodsman30 said:

I believe the theory is 28 people in a cell = a stable game but. many of my towns cities have way more than that.

Thanks. There are cells and there are cells. I've just run with 20 human followers in my current/last game (not decided to whether to end it or continue). The game was fine but boy was I stressed.

 

I agree with the rest of your post.

[Ohyes]

 

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

Thanks. There are cells and there are cells. I've just run with 20 human followers in my current/last game (not decided to whether to end it or continue). The game was fine but boy was I stressed.

 

I agree with the rest of your post.

 

2 hours ago, woodsman30 said:

I believe the theory is 28 people in a cell = a stable game but. many of my towns cities have way more than that.

 

Placement is important but a plan on what you want your Skyrim to be is far more important. Your plan should be what you want to look the best in order of priority for me it is people and places I believe at last total I have close to 20,000 npc in game. Plan before your mod = a stable game and a happy play-through just my two cents.

Lol guys you got it wrong anyone with a decent rig can have 20 followers Im talking about the ultimate stress test made by tonycube he's like one of the best encounter modders ever https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1277531-28-step-stress-test/

also @woodsman30can I see your load order as well? Im curious about the 20,000 npc mod set up you got

[woodsman30]

4 hours ago, Ohyes said:

ultimate stress test made by tonycube he's like one of the best encounter modders eve

if you say so......loading cells cause very little stress and doing a run through of the first set of quest is not to bad....textures are the real problem that is what will eat memory. Ask any screen archer when they take 4k pics it is not a playable game it is just to take a few pictures.  I wont post my load order as how I play and what I play is my own concern but as proof see screen shot. I have many new world mods, cities, and towns... Skyrim is way to empty for me again this is my base plan to make Skyrim full of people and places to see and go. I  have had larger numbers but some mods are for one play through not a base.... what you see is my base and a starting point currently level 2. What I have learned was listen to everyone but don't believe everyone as stated a plan makes the best game if you want changes start anew.... happy gaming

[Grey Cloud]

Just had a look at this 'stress test'. Rubbish. It's from five and a half years ago - the game and hardware have moved on since then. Most of it isn't even 'stressful' in terms of the what it does to the game.

I run everywhere when I solo and can run with 20+ followers in tow. I can also enter and leave dungeons with them. All that with texture overhauls and an ENB (not to mention 250-300 mods).

 

@woodsman30 I used to use 'Are You There' - I wonder what happened to it.

7 hours ago, woodsman30 said:

What I have learned was listen to everyone but don't believe everyone as stated a plan makes the best game if you want changes start anew

I agree with this except that I only use cunning plans.

I always go with cunning plan B because cunning plan A never works.

[Grey Cloud]

Okay. According to Nexus I last downloaded this mod last December. I thought it was a couple of years ago. ☹️

 

My tally.

 

NPC count would make an interesting thread.

[woodsman30]

5 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

I used to use 'Are You There' - I wonder what ha

5 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

I always go with cunning plan B because cunning plan A never works.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/76051 still a great mod

And yes always plan b

[Grey Cloud]

2 minutes ago, woodsman30 said:

And yes always plan b

From The Goons Show of many, many years ago:

"We haven't got a plan, so nothing can go wrong".