KneeHaw Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 So I've been getting my mods to work through trouble shooting and such. At first my game would crash when I hit "play" in the mini window launcher. But now Ive gotten as far as to be able to load a save just for it to crash soon after. An odd thing is that when I start a new game it works until I save and quit then try to open up that same new game. I will include papyrus log if that helps and my active mod list. I can give other info if needed. Mod List: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp ZaZAnimationPack.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm MiasLair.esp Devious Devices - Integration.esm TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm daymoyl.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Heretical Resources.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SGHairPackBase.esm Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp SGEyebrows.esp WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp KS Hairdo's.esp LovelyHairstylesCE.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp ++++ NPC Visuals Merged.esp WICO - Immersive People.esp WICO - USLEEP Compatible Patch.esp WICO - Immersive Character.esp SkyUI.esp Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp OBIS.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp hydra_slavegirls.esp Captured Dreams.esp Slaves of Tamriel.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp Vivid WeathersSE.esp Aradia Devious Expansion.esp Aradia Lace Dress.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Slaverun_Reloaded.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp SimpleSlavery.esp BeautifulCorpse.esp pchsImmersivePlugs.esp wolfclub.esp qayl.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp DeviousFollowers.esp S_L_U_T_S.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp LifeofLust.esp SexLab_Hormones.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp Book of UUNP - Textures.esp CD - Female Embassy Guards.esp CD - No Catsuits in Outfits.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp Deviously Enslaved.esp DeviouslyHelpless.esp Rustic Weathers And Lighting.esp Dolomite Weathers.esp RevampedExteriorFog.esp Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp ENB Snow FX.esp EstrusChaurus.esp FNIS.esp FNISspells.esp FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp FtM_3 - OBIS.esp FtM_3.esp FtM_3 - CCOR.esp H2135ModernSeries3.esp SexLabDefeat.esp mslDeviousCaptures.esp NewmillerPiercings2.esp NewmillerPiercings3.esp PuppetMaster.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SerialStrip.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SexLabStopCombat.esp SexLabTools.esp SkyrimBound.esp SLALAnimObj.esp SLAnimLoader.esp Slaves of Tamriel - iNeed.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp SLSO.esp SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp SOS - Leito Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp UIExtensions.esp Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp Vivid Weathers SE - Summer Season.esp WAFR - Book of UUNP.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp XPMSE.esp zzEstrus.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp ImmerSlave.esp Papyrus.0.log
Dorabella Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, KneeHaw said: Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp Vivid Weathers SE - Summer Season.esp Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp Are you sure they are right? In the list are the only ones marked SE
Grey Cloud Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 What Lestat1627 said plus: You only need one of these: FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp FtM_3 - OBIS.esp FtM_3.esp FtM_3 - CCOR.esp You only need FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp Have you got hothtrooper's armour installed? If no then you don't need the patch for it. Slaves of Tamriel - iNeed.esp Have you got iNeed installed? If no then you don't need the patch for it. Are you using an ENB? When was the last time you ran LOOT on those plug-ins? If I were to recommend a mod list which was not good for someone who was new to modding Skyrim, it would look pretty much like yours.
RohZima Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 How many animations does FNIS report? Can you save in an empty cell and reload that?
KneeHaw Posted June 21, 2019 Author Posted June 21, 2019 20 hours ago, Lestat1627 said: Are you sure they are right? In the list are the only ones marked SE I means a special edition of the mod, not Skyrim Special Edition. I think. I hope. Either way I have none of the enb/texture mods enabled rn
KneeHaw Posted June 21, 2019 Author Posted June 21, 2019 18 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: What Lestat1627 said plus: You only need one of these: FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp FtM_3 - OBIS.esp FtM_3.esp FtM_3 - CCOR.esp You only need FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp Have you got hothtrooper's armour installed? If no then you don't need the patch for it. Slaves of Tamriel - iNeed.esp Have you got iNeed installed? If no then you don't need the patch for it. Are you using an ENB? When was the last time you ran LOOT on those plug-ins? If I were to recommend a mod list which was not good for someone who was new to modding Skyrim, it would look pretty much like yours. K I changed my FTM. I dont enable Hothtrooper patch it must have snuck into my list, used to cause issues when I had the Hothtroopers armor bur Im too lazy to delete the patch. iNeed isnt even in my plugins list so w h a t? I do not use an ENB as of a few hours ago, crashes game before I can even get to Bethesda I run Loot every time I install a mod so like 10minutes ago. No conflicts and cleaned with xEdit
KneeHaw Posted June 21, 2019 Author Posted June 21, 2019 9 hours ago, RohZima said: How many animations does FNIS report? Can you save in an empty cell and reload that? FNIS had about 13000 animations but I cut it down to 8300 ish here is what it says: (keep in mind I run XXL) 7895 animations for 32 mods successfully included (character) 539 animations for 2 mods and 21 creatures successfully included. The file contains whole FNIS thing Also Im not familiar with the term empty cell. Full FNIS.txt
Psalam Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, KneeHaw said: FNIS had about 13000 animations but I cut it down to 8300 ish here is what it says: (keep in mind I run XXL) 7895 animations for 32 mods successfully included (character) 539 animations for 2 mods and 21 creatures successfully included. The file contains whole FNIS thing Also Im not familiar with the term empty cell. Full FNIS.txt 2.68 kB · 0 downloads Most commonly empty cell refers to qasmoke. Go into your console and type coc qasmoke, that will take you there where you can save without any other complications.
Grey Cloud Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, KneeHaw said: I dont enable Hothtrooper patch it must have snuck into my list, used to cause issues when I had the Hothtroopers armor bur Im too lazy to delete the patch Do you realise how pathetic and childish that sounds? Do you not think that that attitude may well contribute to the fact that your game wont work properly? 2 hours ago, KneeHaw said: iNeed isnt even in my plugins list so w h a t? So then you do not need a patch for it do you? 2 hours ago, KneeHaw said: I do not use an ENB, crashes game before I can even get to Bethesda Then why do you have this: Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp Assuming your hardware is adequate, then the reason the game crashes before the Bethesda logo is because you have not got it configured properly. 2 hours ago, KneeHaw said: I run Loot every time I install a mod so like 10minutes ago. No conflicts and cleaned with xEdit Your load order looks too alphabetical for me. LOOT does not show 'conflicts' whatever you mean by that and you should not clean dirty edits without first checking that they need cleaning. Dirty edits in any case don't do anything one way or another. 2 hours ago, KneeHaw said: I means a special edition of the mod, not Skyrim Special Edition. I think. I hope. Either way I have none of the enb/texture mods enabled rn I very much doubt whether it means 'special edition of the mod'. A quick visit to the web page will tell you. Vivid Weathers is not an 'enb/texture' mod. 8K animations should be fine. I can run about 13.5K with FNIS XXL so 1300 may be close to your limit. You really need to do some serious reading if you want a stable, modded Skyrim. This is as good as any place to start: https://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.10.0
Dorabella Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, KneeHaw said: I do not use an ENB, 23 hours ago, KneeHaw said: ENB Snow FX.esp This is an ENB, sure not to conflict with some Weathers SE? You could start eliminating something by following the various suggestions mentioned so far until the problem is solved
Grey Cloud Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, KneeHaw said: I do not use an ENB 24 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said: ENB Snow FX.esp 24 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said: This is an ENB, ?
KneeHaw Posted June 21, 2019 Author Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: Do you realise how pathetic and childish that sounds? Do you not think that that attitude may well contribute to the fact that your game wont work properly? So then you do not need a patch for it do you? Then why do you have this: Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp Assuming your hardware is adequate, then the reason the game crashes before the Bethesda logo is because you have not got it configured properly. Your load order looks too alphabetical for me. LOOT does not show 'conflicts' whatever you mean by that and you should not clean dirty edits without first checking that they need cleaning. Dirty edits in any case don't do anytin one way or another. I very much doubt whether it means 'special edition of the mod'. A quick visit to the we page will tell you. Vivid Weathers is not an 'enb/texture' mod. 8K animations should be fine. I can run about 13.5K with FNIS XXL so 1300 may be close to your limit. You really need to do some serious reading if you want a stable, modded Skyrim. This is as godd as any place to start: https://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.10.0 For the iNeed thing it isn't even listed as a plugin in my mod manager nor in my mod folders nor when I search for it I cant find it it is missing as of a few hours ago. I'd assume it's already been deleted in the past but was still listed for whatever reason. The ENB isnt enabled currently, I will add an updated list of my currently enabled mods which now only crash during loading screens i.e. exiting a dungeon to Skyrim. I have already gotten past the Bethesda logo, please read my original post I believe I stated such I didn't post my load order, merely my mod list I will attach load order at well if you wish to inspect it I checked web page, it just says that it is a special edition of the mod but not for Skyrim Special Edition And yeah I was thinking a similar idea on the anims I will now read the wiki page Load Order.txt
KneeHaw Posted June 21, 2019 Author Posted June 21, 2019 57 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said: This is an ENB, sure not to conflict with some Weathers SE? You could start eliminating something by following the various suggestions mentioned so far until the problem is solved Let me clarify I meant that i had disabled the ENB not that i didnt have one installed, they cause more problems on top of what Im already having. After I posted this yesterday I was doing whatever and am currently not using any weather/enb/texture replacer mods or plugins besides Hair and eye stuff for character creation
Psalam Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, KneeHaw said: For the iNeed thing it isn't even listed as a plugin in my mod manager nor in my mod folders nor when I search for it I cant find it it is missing as of a few hours ago. I'd assume it's already been deleted in the past but was still listed for whatever reason. The ENB isnt enabled currently, I will add an updated list of my currently enabled mods which now only crash during loading screens i.e. exiting a dungeon to Skyrim. I have already gotten past the Bethesda logo, please read my original post I believe I stated such I didn't post my load order, merely my mod list I will attach load order at well if you wish to inspect it I checked web page, it just says that it is a special edition of the mod but not for Skyrim Special Edition And yeah I was thinking a similar idea on the anims I will now read the wiki page Load Order.txt 2.08 kB · 2 downloads I really hate to poke my nose in when you've gotten such good advice because it often just leads to confusion. However, I can't help but point out two things in your load order. First you have you have both Zap8 and TUFP in your load order. Here is what T.ara (who wrote both and therefore should know) says about that: This mod will work with all optional mods listed above, but some of those mods will not work together! -TUFP + ZEP is OK -ZAP 7 + TUFP + ZEP is OK (most common combination) -ZAP 8(+) is OK for gamers who don´t play mods that need ZEP (zaz extension pack) -ZAP8(+) + TUFP is NOT WORKING, combining these is not necessary and causes serious issues (ZAP8+ has everythong from TUFP and them some) -ZAP8(+) + ZEP is NOT WORKING -ZAP 8 (+) + ZEP + TUFP is NOT WORKING This information is taken from the modpage of Musje's Home Sweet Home. T.ara originally posted this in that mod's Support Thread. Second, tick off XPMSE. As far as I can see you are not using any mod that requires it (notably Dual Sheath Redux). So, tick it off in your esp's but DO NOT DISABLE THE MOD.
Grey Cloud Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, KneeHaw said: I checked web page, it just says that it is a special edition of the mod but not for Skyrim Special Edition Vivid Weathers - a complete Weather and Visual overhaul for Skyrim https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73937/?tab=files Vivid Weathers.esp (1647 kb) Vivid Weathers Definitive Edition - a complete Weather and Visual overhaul for Skyrim https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/2187/ Note 'special edition' in the URL and you should have noticed that the Nexus page is in the SE purple. Vivid WeathersSE.esp (1787 kb) The load order now looks more like it. Now, if you are crashing on area transitions it will probably be down to your game's configuration being screwed by a badly installed and uninstalled ENB. My advice would be to follow the S.T.E.P. and for the time being just install ENBoost until you are sure you have a stable game. You need ENBoost to use an ENB preset but you don't need a preset to have ENBoost.
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