All NPCs have black face Skyrim Special Edition

[Guest]

I made a thread on the wrong board so I'm putting it on the appropriate one. I have been getting black face on all npc due to lack of vram. This is my new load order since I am trying to figure out which mod is being a resource hog.

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     RaceCompatibility.esm
  7  7     ApachiiHair.esm
  8  8     Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
  9  9     Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
 10  a     Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
 11  b     ELFX - Exteriors.esp
 12  c     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 13  d     Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
 14  e     Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
           ELFX - Weathers.esp
 15  f     Vivid WeathersSE.esp
 16 10     SkyUI_SE.esp
 17 11     FNIS.esp
 18 12     FNIS_PCEA2.esp
 19 13     FNISSexyMove.esp
 20 14     RBB Long Boats.esp
 21 15     RBB Large Boats.esp
 22 16     TW3MO.esp
 23 17     RBB Row Boats.esp
 24 18     Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
 25 19     PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
 26 1a     InsanitySorrow Weapons Pack.esp
 27 1b     StaffSixWays.esp
 28 1c     Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
 29 1d     UniqueBows.esp
 30 1e     isilNarsil.esp
 31 1f     ktWeaponPackSE.esp
 32 20     Sulfuras The Reclaimed Hand SE - Johnskyrim.esp
 33 21     icebladeofthemonarch.esp
 34 22     RuinsEdge.esp
 35 23     FNISspells.esp
 36 24     TKDodge.esp
 37 25     WardenCombat.esp
 38 26     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 39 27     Vanilla Hair Replacer - VHR.esp
 40 28     The Ordinary Women.esp
 41 29     Bijin NPCs.esp
 42 2a     AetherialCenturionGreatswordAndSwords.esp
 43 2b     Bloodskal100.esp
 44 2c     CROSS_Crucible.esp
 45 2d     Craftable Champions Cudgel.esp
 46 2e     DeerAxe.esp
 47 2f     DraugrslayerGreatsword.esp
 48 30     Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
 49 31     Evening Star.esp
 50 32     Faction Crossbows.esp
 51 33     Ghosu - Leviathan.esp
 52 34     LorkhanMoonlightGreatswordPack.esp
 53 35     Mortal Blade2.esp
 54 36     Peacemaker.esp
 55 37     PenobscotWarBow.esp
 56 38     Poleaxe.esp
 57 39     PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
 58 3a     Quel'Delar SE - Johnskyrim.esp
 59 3b     Radzig - Johnskyrim.esp
 60 3c     Runed_Nordic_Weapons.esp
 61 3d     Scorpion Scimitar.esp
 62 3e     Stinger-Poisoner.esp
 63 3f     StormcallerFury.esp
 64 40     Sugaruya Katana.esp
 65 41     Swordbreaker.esp
 66 42     UltraWeaponsSet.esp
 67 43     Zikoru Swords.esp
 68 44     dragonslayerarrows - temper.esp
 69 45     dwab.esp
 70 46     skyforgedWeapons.esp
 71 47     Vivid Weathers SE - Summer Season.esp
 72 48     Vivid Weathers SE - AOS Patch.esp
 73 49     Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp
 74 4a     RaceMenu.esp
 75 4b     XPMSE.esp
 76 4c     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 77 4d     DagiRaht.esp
 78 4e     halfdragonrace.esp
 79 4f     AIO SE TATTOOS.esp
 80 50     CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
 81 51     Bijin_Frea-Iona.esp
 82 52     blessarmors.esp
 83 53     Olga follower.esp
 84 54     SGEyebrows.esp
 85 55     WTF Cyborg Bikini Armor.esp
 86 56     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
 87 57     HairsBeastRace - Extended Plus.esp
 88 58     HavoksLipPatterns.esp
 89 59     SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp
 90 5a     BD UUNP Collection.esp
 91 5b     Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE.esp
 92 5c     BVFE.esp
 93 5d     Beards.esp
 94 5e     FabLookEyesSSE.esp
 95 5f     Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp
 96 60     Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
 97 61     Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
 98 62     KS Hairdo's.esp
 99 63     Khajiit_Eyes_Extended.esp
100 64     NB-Scars.esp
101 65     PrettyKhajiit.esp
           SGHair33x144.esp
254 FE   0 Senua's Warpaints.esp
102 66     The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
103 67     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
104 68     VWA_VanillaWarpaintsAbsolution.esp
105 69     art_StarsightEyes.esp
106 6a     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
107 6b     ELFXEnhancer.esp

Black face bug starts occurring with these mods, also it affects male and females I dont know if this is redundant or not apologizes in advance for my ignorance on the subject matter I don't make mods, code, or anything I just download mods. Ive only recently started coming across this bug I have an 8gb 1070.

[YourFriendlyDragonborn]

You using mo, nmm or vortex?

[Guest]

3 hours ago, YourFriendlyDragonborn said:

You using mo, nmm or vortex?

Vortex, it makes modding super easy lol

 

I know you didnt ask but this is just some extra info also as far as my specs go I have 16gb of ddr4, 8gb 1070, and an i7

[YourFriendlyDragonborn]

49 minutes ago, TheMoon401 said:

Vortex, it makes modding super easy lol

 

I know you didnt ask but this is just some extra info also as far as my specs go I have 16gb of ddr4, 8gb 1070, and an i7

i cant say much about vortex, but make sure that the mod that overwrite npcs is also higher in plugin list.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, YourFriendlyDragonborn said:

i cant say much about vortex, but make sure that the mod that overwrite npcs is also higher in plugin list.

I think vortex automatically sorts them is that what mean?

[Grey Cloud]

2 hours ago, TheMoon401 said:

I think vortex automatically sorts them is that what mean?

Take no notice. load order will not do anything for black faces caused by lack of VRAM. Grey face due to missing textures, yes.

 

The issue here is that you need to have your Skyrim configured correctly in order to use memory better (RAM and VRAM). If you were using LE I could help you but I don't so I'm pointing you here instead:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/118460-skyrim-se-for-beginners-release-128/#comments

 

Hopefully reading that will help and someone will jump in here and give you some advice.

 

I screenshot of the problem would still be a good idea. Save the image as a jpg and drag it to the paperclip in the bottom left corner there.

[jaeos]

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Take no notice. load order will not do anything for black faces caused by lack of VRAM. Grey face due to missing textures, yes.

 

The issue here is that you need to have your Skyrim configured correctly in order to use memory better (RAM and VRAM). If you were using LE I could help you but I don't so I'm pointing you here instead:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/118460-skyrim-se-for-beginners-release-128/#comments

 

Hopefully reading that will help and someone will jump in here and give you some advice.

 

I screenshot of the problem would still be a good idea. Save the image as a jpg and drag it to the paperclip in the bottom left corner there.

 

6 hours ago, TheMoon401 said:

I think vortex automatically sorts them is that what mean?

IMO vortex sucks. MO2 is a better engine, much more intensive to set up, but once you do, changing mods around (say you have kids and want the sloot mods disabled) you can actually profile for that (save game not included). and such as this, you can just click a check mark and the mod is off. So checking for bad mods (there are quite a few LE mods that work as is) you just uncheck and it keeps your Steam or Bethesda files in PRISTINE condition so you are never having to redo this or that to make it work. to quote Fraud Howard "It just works" Since you posted you have an i-7 and 16gb ram on ddr4 i'm going to guess you also have win 10 and a gtx 1070. except for not knowing which i-7 you have it's pretty close to a rig i built for a friend of mine.

Grey Cloud is correct, but in SSE the memory cap is gone (ESP limit at 255 is still in effect), your only limit is your cpu and how much ram and vram you have. (unfortunately this is where Microsoft actually did something right) if you let windows manage your vram if the game needs it it boosts it. However there's not much difference between grey and black to most people. grey face looks like this and is caused by one mod overwriting facegen data while the second mod tries to put the face tint mask on the wrong "skull" (or two faces at once if that's how you want to look at it) This ios one i am currently tracking in my game. but i have a pretty goot idea it's bijin aio fighting dibella sisters, i just have not messed with it as i also have a little puppy i'm training and teaching.

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EDIT:looking at your load order a few things pop out. eyes of beauty below bijin for one, move bijin npc and bijon frea-iona well towards the bottom.or move all the eye mods up. i think i counted 6 of them.

[Vedren01]

Its because you have too many mods affecting the same npc's, I forget what the term actually is but you will need to go into the Creation Kit and regenerate their facegen files to clear it up and have your mods... I seem to remember a utility/mod that would automatically batch do this but I'm not 100%.

[Grey Cloud]

5 hours ago, Vedren01 said:

Its because you have too many mods affecting the same npc's, I forget what the term actually is but you will need to go into the Creation Kit and regenerate their facegen files to clear it up and have your mods... I seem to remember a utility/mod that would automatically batch do this but I'm not 100%.

Then why is it affecting males?

[Grey Cloud]

6 hours ago, jaeos said:

However there's not much difference between grey and black to most people.

Does it?

6 hours ago, jaeos said:

EDIT:looking at your load order a few things pop out. eyes of beauty below bijin for one, move bijin npc and bijon frea-iona well towards the bottom.or move all the eye mods up. i think i counted 6 of them.

Then why does it affect males?

[Grey Cloud]

@TheMoon401 

Post a screenshot of the problem or you will continue to have these type of posts.

[nemocdt]

i fixed all black faces in my build with the overwrite folder in mo2

Run LOOT first. this will fix most but not all black faces. 

 

Just make sure that the files.

\overwrite\textures\Actors\Character\FaceGenData\Facetint and the nif's in \overwrite\meshes\actors\character\facegendata\facegeom correspond to the mods you want to have priority.

worked 100% for me. 

Extract each mod facegendata folder (both Textures and meshes) to the MO2 overwrite folder  in ascending order from lowest to highest priority and overwrite as you want.

 

Tip: the NIF name is the same as the base id. (not needed for this process but if you really want to get tricky and mix and match)

you need both the facetint and facegeom data.

 

 

[Guest]

I fixed the issue, it was an npc overhaul mod it wasnt listed in npcs and I was really confused. Thanks for all the suggestions and help though.