Sexout Discounts Updated 01. May 2012! Final version!

DoctorZ · October 1, 2011

I don't know why i can't have the dialog triggered with Chet on a brand new and clean install of the game

Have you tried talking to him a second time?

Will other merchants give you a discount?

WHat is the sex of your character?

Q. Have you tried talking to him a second time?

Yeah a few time

Q. Will other merchants give you a discount?

Trudy doesnt pop the conversation as well, but it might be because my character is female. Gonna have to check with another vendor asap.

Q. WHat is the sex of your character?

Female

DoctorZ · October 1, 2011

I don't know why i can't have the dialog triggered with Chet on a brand new and clean install of the game

Have you tried talking to him a second time?

Will other merchants give you a discount?

WHat is the sex of your character?

What is your name?

What is your quest?

What is the maximum speed of an unladen swallow?

RED! NO BLUE! AAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Sorry... bit of a Python moment there...

DoctorZ · October 1, 2011

I don't know why i can't have the dialog triggered with Chet on a brand new and clean install of the game

Have you tried talking to him a second time?

Will other merchants give you a discount?

WHat is the sex of your character?

Q. Have you tried talking to him a second time?

Yeah a few time

Q. Will other merchants give you a discount?

Trudy doesnt pop the conversation as well' date=' but it might be because my character is female. Gonna have to check with another vendor asap.

Q. WHat is the sex of your character?

Female

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Not working with others vendors as well...

afa · October 1, 2011

Try using Loggie's esp instead, I was playing around with this mod last night and couldn't get the file in OP to work, but Loggie's esp from Sep. 26 seems to work.

DoctorZ · October 1, 2011

Try using Loggie's esp instead' date=' I was playing around with this mod last night and couldn't get the file in OP to work, but Loggie's esp from Sep. 26 seems to work.

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Thanks, i gonna try this out right now as well im going to try to find a way to fix the NPC vendor from floating around or going through the ground when i speak with them...

EDIT : thanks! The sep. 26 esp has fix my issue with the dialog

*Bromm83* · October 1, 2011

Try using Loggie's esp instead' date=' I was playing around with this mod last night and couldn't get the file in OP to work, but Loggie's esp from Sep. 26 seems to work.

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Thanks, i gonna try this out right now as well im going to try to find a way to fix the NPC vendor from floating around or going through the ground when i speak with them...

There has been uploaded a fix to the OP.

I seem to have forgotten one small little variable that tells the game that this is a top level conversation. One click and fixed! Thatnks for making me aware of this.

Von Salza · October 24, 2011

Stated a new clean game today, I had sex with merchants, chet, carter contreras etc, no condoms were used, and got some std's...

iron_jack · October 25, 2011

Sounds like the risks of doing 'business' to me.

*Bromm83* · October 27, 2011

Yes I removed the condoms part of it. I should probably change that Allthough you could just use the plugin that checks for STDs and try to cure em I don't know if you can manually equip condoms, but if you can do it that way.

Von Salza · October 28, 2011

Yes I removed the condoms part of it. I should probably change that Allthough you could just use the plugin that checks for STDs and try to cure em I don't know if you can manually equip condoms' date=' but if you can do it that way.

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Yes, it can be done manually, and its even more realistic that way. I didn't test it much but until now looks like its working..

Thanks for the tip...

*Bromm83* · January 7, 2012

Since I am going strong updating mods I was thinking about updating this dinosaur..

Why fix something that works?

Well I was thinking about adding a direct fuck for free ammo, and perhaps stimpacks.

Is this something people want?

How much ammo should one sex act give you?

Should it be only basic ammo?

Or perhaps it should give better the higher sex skill you have?

Or should I base it at the same as the mod uses now for determining how much discount you get?

I look forward to some good feedback on this, then I will make the changes during the next week or so.

Kodiak · January 7, 2012

Good idea actually. My suggestions -

Keep it simple. If you already have a scale used to determine the discount rate based on sex skill, then stick to the same scale. Scale the amount of ammo received to sex skill and maybe speech/barter.

Keep the availible ammo simple and vanilla. No matter how good the head, it still may not be worth a case of AP .308s.

Really good sex however (based on sex skill) might get you a few none ammo items though like frag grenades or mines. Again.. no matter how sweet that ass, it may not be worth giving up the plasma grenades for.

You want the option to be helpful but balanced. Free ammo is always good, esspecially if its a common type of ammo that is always used. The higher the sex skill, the more sought after ammo, like .308s let say, become availble.

This is almost a Barting for Sex add-on, but its an idea that makes sense. If this works, maybe you can expand it to other forms of vendors and good. Fucking for food and water would be a certainty as would maybe giving it up to Doc for free medical services.

If you did want to complicate things a bit, I dare say for that level of exchange, it might make sense to have the Sex skill or Speech skills dictate if the character can even make such a proposal.

Still, just fuckin for ammo is a good idea and I certainly think you should run with it.

*Halstrom* · January 7, 2012

Yep keep it to cheap common stuff too like dirty water, 9mm etc, most people don't have Energy Cells lying around

Kashked · January 7, 2012

I concur. The price of a whore at the Gommorah is 50 caps IIRC. That would equal what, 50 rouunds of 9mm? But then again, an desperate woman entering your shop is NOT equal to a whore at the fanciest whorehouse this side of California. Scaling should definatly be part of it if it is feasible, a char with 9-10 charisma and a high barter skill might just get up to that 50 caps worth of ammo/supplies.

My suggestions would be:

Food and/or water and common ammo like 9mm and 5.56mm for general merchants (Traveling merchants, Chet, the guy in the Dinosaur, Mick or Ralph, whoever is the general merchant of the pair, etc.)

Alcohol, food and water from bartenders like Trudy, generic casino bartenders, the Garrets etc.

More varied ammo from some merchants who have more of a "weapon merchant" feel, the gun runner at the 188 for example, or the Boomers munition manager, energy weapons ammo from Gloria van Staff, the weapon guy at Mick and Raplhs etc.

Stimpacks and/or doctors bags from the doctors.

Basically you would have to handcraft the options for every merchant in the game, which I guess could be a pain in the ass... but idealy I think this is what should be done. And make sure that not every merchant is gay...

Would perhaps be a good idea, if we assume that you would have to change each merchant individually anyway, to exclude some. I don't really see Trudy accepting for example...

*prideslayer* · January 8, 2012

To assist you in this regard, I have another simple plugin coming in about 30 minutes or so, to be included in the main sexout plugins download.

Sexout LevelUp.esp will re-implement the removed 'experience' and 'level' stuff, in NG, via the global counter hook. It will use the existing Sexout vars, and the same system:

- 2 points for consensual sex

- 1 point for rape (as victim or attacker)

- levelup every time exp doubles.

vars:

Sexout.expVag (experience in vaginal)

Sexout.expAnal (experience in anal)

Sexout.expOral (experience in oral)

Sexout.sexExp (total experience)

Sexout.sexLevel (current level)

Sexout.expLevel (xp to next level)

I'd like a better system, with perks and whatnot, but this will be a stopgap to get a cut feature back in place.

*Bromm83* · January 8, 2012

Great feedback so far! =)

And thanks prideslayer for remaking the sexp system =)

Nice not to have one system for every plugin.

*prideslayer* · January 8, 2012

No problem. Anyone who wants can come up with something better and modify LevelUp. The existing system is VERY basic, and since it's a geometric progression, there's a definite (and low) practical level cap.

saladboy21 · January 14, 2012

This mod seems to have stopped working for me. I updated Tryout, NG, Preg, and Smallertalk, and added Drug Dealers and Store, and I could no longer ask for a discount. I removed DD and Store and the problem has persisted.

*prideslayer* · January 14, 2012

This mod seems to have stopped working for me. I updated Tryout' date=' NG, Preg, and Smallertalk, and added Drug Dealers and Store, and I could no longer ask for a discount. I removed DD and Store and the problem has persisted.

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Does it work if you switch back to smalltalk from smallertalk?

saladboy21 · January 14, 2012

I will try that tonight, though it worked with smallertalk before.

*Bromm83* · January 14, 2012

Okies, before I start working on this I am going to need a few hints from some of our more experienced modders.

1. Is there a way for me to make a condition in dialogue to check for certain items a vendor has for sale? (Is it just GetItemCount, or would that just give me what he personally has in his inventory?)

2. TBA - I thought there were more thigs stopping me from starting this expansion, but I can't come up with any other issues at the moment...

*zippy57* · January 14, 2012

Is there a way for me to make a condition in dialogue to check for certain items a vendor has for sale? (Is it just GetItemCount' date=' or would that just give me what he personally has in his inventory?)[/quote']You could perform the GetItemCount on the vendor's merchant container, but you would have to change that separately for each vendor unless there's some scripting function I don't know about that can get that information.

Nonsense667 · February 12, 2012

I've edited some of the dialog in order to make it a bit more "general." Too many times had I selected "All right, I am really low on caps..." while having 1000+ in my inventory.

See below for exact flow of dialog.

Maybe you could adjust your rates just for me?

>You'll have to barter with something else in that case.

And what is that exactly?

>Your Body. Does that sound like a deal to you?

I am not going to trade *that*

OR

We can do that...

>Come here then.

Kashked · February 12, 2012

I've edited some of the dialog in order to make it a bit more "general." Too many times had I selected "All right' date=' I am really low on caps..." while having 1000+ in my inventory.

See below for exact flow of dialog.

Maybe you could adjust your rates just for me?

>You'll have to barter with something else in that case.

And what is that exactly?

>Your Body. Does that sound like a deal to you?

I am not going to trade *that*

OR

We can do that...

>Come here then.

I like the idea. Downloading.

*Bromm83* · February 12, 2012

I've edited some of the dialog in order to make it a bit more "general." Too many times had I selected "All right' date=' I am really low on caps..." while having 1000+ in my inventory.

See below for exact flow of dialog.

Maybe you could adjust your rates just for me?

>You'll have to barter with something else in that case.

And what is that exactly?

>Your Body. Does that sound like a deal to you?

I am not going to trade *that*

OR

We can do that...

>Come here then.

That looks great. Would you mind if I uploaded it to the OP as the current version and credited you for the edit?

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