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HungryRon

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When I start a new game with a certain amount of mods that initiate their scripts immediately, quests such as Amren's Family Sword, Ysolda's Mammoth Tusk, Carlotta's Bard Problem and Stop Braith bully Lars can't be initiated due to their dialogue not showing up. The only way to prevent this on my end is start a new game with as few mods as possible.

Is this a thing that happens once you install a certain amount of mods? Can it be fixed? Or is this a telltale sign to rebuild my installation?

Edit: Posted load order directly

 

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00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.13a]
06  hdtHighHeel.esm
07  ApachiiHair.esm
08  ApachiiHairFemales.esm
09  ApachiiHairMales.esm
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0B  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.62]
0C  SexLabAroused.esm  [Version 2.8]
0D  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.3]
0E  Devious Devices - Integration.esm
0F  Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
10  Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
11  RaceCompatibility.esm
12  paradise_halls.esm
13  ZaZAnimationPack.esm
14  Heretical Resources.esm
15  HighResTexturePack01.esp
16  HighResTexturePack02.esp
17  HighResTexturePack03.esp
18  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
19  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
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++  Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
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1D  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
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20  Purity.esp
++  PurityBN100.esp
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22  paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
23  Helgen Reborn.esp  [Version 105.3]
24  NPC_Overhaul_V_3_.esp
25  ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
26  Original Opening Scene.esp
++  Opening Scene NPC OverhaulV3 Patch.esp
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28  N_43 Hair Pack.esp
29  OpulentThievesGuild.esp
2A  FreedomForNightingales.esp
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2C  Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
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2E  Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
2F  SexyBanditCaptives.esp
30  JobsofSkyrim.esp
31  Run For Your Lives.esp  [Version 3.0]
32  RiverwoodHotSprings.esp
33  Dynamic TimeScale.esp
34  Wow-like Food Overhaul.esp
35  Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
36  Draw!!.esp
37  Explosive arrows.esp
38  Exploding bolt.esp
39  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
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3B  New Skyrim Master Spells.esp
3C  LesserPowerSpells.esp
3D  RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
3E  LunariMysticElfRace.esp
3F  Dolls.esp
40  UnarmedPerks.esp
41  Unarmed Insightful.esp
42  faster vanilla horses.esp
43  Whistle.esp
44  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
45  PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
46  SexLabDefeat.esp
47  Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
48  moresmeltables.esp
49  TheWealthiestMerchantEver.esp
4A  RiverwoodKeep.esp
4B  East Reach House.esp
4C  ElysiumEstate.esp
4D  HearthfireMultiKid.esp
4E  TimingIsEverything.esp
4F  Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
50  ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
51  Isharas_Glimpse_of_Elsweyr.esp
52  MomijiFollower.esp
53  Solar's Portable Crafting.esp
54  CraftableTeleporters.esp
55  lanterns.esp
56  EK_RingLimiter.esp
57  NobleD_Riverwood_Smelter.esp
58  BBD_AllTrainers.esp
59  sophitiafollower.esp
5A  hitomifollower.esp
5B  kasumifollower.esp
5C  Ayanefollower.esp
5D  HoldAndDefend.esp
5E  Essentialize spells.esp
5F  Full Magic Scaling.esp
60  My Home Is Your Home.esp
61  Claim Skyrim Interiors.esp
62  JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
63  Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
64  ESFCompanions.esp  [Version 0.1.1]
65  CWRing.esp
66  BlairDameOutfits.esp
67  Sayaka_Suit.esp
68  RiverwoodKeepUSLEEP.esp
69  DMC4 Trish.esp
6A  nightshade_armor.esp
6B  BBD_CatsuitSpearhead.esp
6C  Vidala'sDress.esp
6D  fizzGhostv3.esp
6E  Blackjack.esp
6F  ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
70  FNIS_PCEA2.esp
71  NoLeveledItemRewards.esp
++  pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp
++  pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-patch.esp

72  Bashed Patch, 0.esp


 

 

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Paste your load order here not on 3rd party sites. Bad form, old boy.

 

It's not a mod number issue. I run circa 200 and can get those quests.

Maybe they all have 'triggers' - Amren arguing with his wife; Ysolda and talk about the caravans; seeing Braith bully Lars; Carlotta ? Having said that, I have had trouble with Ysolda mentioning the tusk and I rarely bother with the Carlotta and Braith gigs.

 

I'd look at mods which alter the default behaviour of NPCs.

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Paste your load order here not on 3rd party sites. Bad form, old boy.

My bad, never posted a load order around here before.

 

Does npc behavior get decided starting a new game? It only happens when I start a new game with my full load order (without Helgen Reborn). If I start a new game with only the mods I really need to start a new game with to work, save and exit the game, and then run the game again with all my mods activated this time, the issue won't occur.

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11 hours ago, HungryRon said:

When I start a new game with a certain amount of mods that initiate their scripts immediately, quests such as Amren's Family Sword, Ysolda's Mammoth Tusk, Carlotta's Bard Problem and Stop Braith bully Lars can't be initiated due to their dialogue not showing up. The only way to prevent this on my end is start a new game with as few mods as possible.

Is this a thing that happens once you install a certain amount of mods? Can it be fixed? Or is this a telltale sign to rebuild my installation?

Edit: Posted load order directly

 

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I've seen this sort of thing happen before. It is part of the reason so many people with LOTS of hours on Skyrim have Alternate Start - Live Another Life. Being able yo start your game in a quiet cell without a lot of other things going on does tend to minimize the sort of issues that you present.

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9 hours ago, Psalam said:
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I've seen this sort of thing happen before. It is part of the reason so many people with LOTS of hours on Skyrim have Alternate Start - Live Another Life. Being able yo start your game in a quiet cell without a lot of other things going on does tend to minimize the sort of issues that you present.

Hmm, it's worth a shot though it kinda sucks for me as I like the changes Opening Scene Overhaul made and it's incompatible with ASLAL despite what it says in the OSO description in the Nexus. Them's the breaks I guess.

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19 hours ago, HungryRon said:

as I like the changes Opening Scene Overhaul made and it's incompatible with ASLAL despite what it says in the OSO description in the Nexus.

Not really, but you need to know what you are doing.

I had one quick game with ASLAL+OSO  for the fun of it and it worked nicely.

 

But now that I had that once, I wouldn't do it again. Because I am a bit lazy and it is too much hassle for too little joy.

 

If you like to tinker a bit with your toys, you could extract the nice clothing/appearal of the NPCs into your own homebrew esp. Hadvar and Tulius really looked good.

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