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To start, everything was running great, I had a small problem with Hateful Wenches body meshes not showing so they were kinda invisible floating heads... I just in case re-installed all Wench Mods, also checked then added Body Slide files that were missing (fuck knows why they were not included in the down loads but I am sure there is a good reason?) Batched the outfits and so forth, then loaded up to check my "handy work".

But now out of the total BLUE the game will not load... I read pap log... reloaded and installed FNISS (that didn't get rid of the mysterious "missing file") Although I do not think that is the sudden cause for the CTD?

Is it possible to have to many Body meshes/outfits? That is afteral the only change I technically have made?

 

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Pap Log

Papyrus.0.log

 

Tidied up pap log from first CTD

Papyrus.2.log

 

I believe this is a problem raised by C5Kev as well, so I will be reading his post if I can find it, to see if there was a fix, that didn't entail reloading everything, like Everything...

 

Posted

first thing that hurt my load order feelings is (but maybe not related to your CTD issue):

 

> you are using 2 weather mods that might be incompatible (use only one)

 

vivid weathers + elfx weathers

 

from the vivid weathers mod page:

Vivid Weathers are not compatible with
s.gif- Any other ENB Preset out there...yes they need to be adjusted for Vivid Weathers...kinda Obvious ;)
s.gif- All weather mods out there (pretty obvious hm?:) such as:
s.gif   Expanded Snow systems (already included in VW)
s.gif   Supreme Storms (already included in VW)
s.gif   Climates of Tamriel 
s.gif   Vivid Clouds and fogs (already included)
s.gif   Realsitic skyrim Snowflakes (already included)
s.gif   Purity, NLA, RCRN, Pure weathers
s.gif   ELE Weathers, RLO weathers, ELFX weathers and everything else that overwrites skyrim or COT weathers.
s.gif   Supreme and Volumetric Fog - those effects are already included

 

 

> you are using 2 light mods that might be incompatible (use only one)

 

ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp + ELFX-Enhancer

 

from the ele mod  page:

- Not compatible -
Realistic Lighting Overhaul
ELFX - Enhancer
RCRN AE -- HDR Lighting and Weather Enhancement
Remove Interior Fog V2
Remove Ambient Interior Fog

 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Elizinator said:

99% of the time, CTD before main menu is a derelict master problem. check to see no esm/esps were accidentally unchecked.

Cool I will check via the Data file when you laubch through steam... Also check LOOT although not sure what to look for in LOOT if something has been unchecked.

 

24 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

first thing that hurt my load order feelings is (but maybe not related to your CTD issue):

 

> you are using 2 weather mods that might be incompatible (use only one)

 

vivid weathers + elfx weathers

 

from the vivid weathers mod page:

Vivid Weathers are not compatible with
s.gif- Any other ENB Preset out there...yes they need to be adjusted for Vivid Weathers...kinda Obvious ;)
s.gif- All weather mods out there (pretty obvious hm?:) such as:
s.gif   Expanded Snow systems (already included in VW)
s.gif   Supreme Storms (already included in VW)
s.gif   Climates of Tamriel 
s.gif   Vivid Clouds and fogs (already included)
s.gif   Realsitic skyrim Snowflakes (already included)
s.gif   Purity, NLA, RCRN, Pure weathers
s.gif   ELE Weathers, RLO weathers, ELFX weathers and everything else that overwrites skyrim or COT weathers.
s.gif   Supreme and Volumetric Fog - those effects are already included

 

 

> you are using to light mods that might be incompatible (use only one)

 

228 e4     ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp + ELFX-Enhancer

from the ele mod  page:

- Not compatible -
Realistic Lighting Overhaul
ELFX - Enhancer
RCRN AE -- HDR Lighting and Weather Enhancement
Remove Interior Fog V2
Remove Ambient Interior Fog

 

 

 

Good point, although it was running quite well with them, I'll remove 1 of each in any case, just to be sure, plus it will free up 2 esp's doing so.

 

Good thing is I am only about a few hours into a clean start, so any changes were expected, plus the need to possibly delete all current saves and Clean Start again.

Posted
1 hour ago, DarksideTinkerbell said:

I had a small problem with Hateful Wenches body meshes not showing

did you maybe install Hateful Wenches (Custom Armors)?

those Wenches need a lot of extra armors you have to install or you get invisible bodyparts

 

Hateful Wenches vanilla armors might be what you need instead

Posted
22 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

did you maybe install Hateful Wenches (Custom Armors)?

those Wenches need a lot of extra armors you have to install or you get invisible bodyparts

 

Hateful Wenches vanilla armors might be what you need instead

Yeah installed Custom Armors, think I got them all, although annoying as many are CBBE and atm I am using a UUNP build. I actually have the Vanilla down loaded just in case my Body Slide fix doesn't work (likely as the armors most off are CBBE but bodies are UUNP). But until I fix this mysterious CTD I can't check if the Body Slide adjustments worked, I even have a save that is seconds away from some Hateful Wenches to check...

Posted
2 hours ago, DarksideTinkerbell said:

But until I fix this mysterious CTD

Normaly, CTD before Main Menu is caused by a missing master.

Run LOOT and look for errors.

 

Can be caused by a bad mod or an incorrect dll in SKSE.

If you accidentally install a mod with DLL for SE you get CTD. Revise the mod's recently installed.

 

If you are ussing Win10 and have ENB try disable ENB.

The Operating System can make Auto Updates and break some games and aplications like ENB.

 

C5Kev had a similar problem related to the Automatic Update of the video driver in Win10. Look in that way.

Posted
57 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said:

Normaly, CTD before Main Menu is caused by a missing master.

Run LOOT and look for errors.

 

Can be caused by a bad mod or an incorrect dll in SKSE.

If you accidentally install a mod with DLL for SE you get CTD. Revise the mod's recently installed.

 

If you are ussing Win10 and have ENB try disable ENB.

The Operating System can make Auto Updates and break some games and aplications like ENB.

 

C5Kev had a similar problem related to the Automatic Update of the video driver in Win10. Look in that way.

I don't know how I missed it?!? Ran LOOT again and yes an error, Judgement Wenches patch for immersive creatures, which I have now deleted. And subsequently fixed that CTD.

 

I will look out for the updates, I know windows 10 (which I have) can be pretty unfriendly to anything not Windows or Microsoft...

 

That patch might be SSE then? Not sure why it would be available where I found it?

Posted

@donttouchmethere turns out when you install ELFX you can also install the weathers, I haven't been overly impressed with the Mod, sure it helped a little, but I only ever can't see in the dark when in a Dark Room, re why I look to brighten the night, and the shadows. lol at one stage I had an ENB that made shadows so dark they were straight out Black you couldn't see anything in them even yourself...

Posted
1 hour ago, DarksideTinkerbell said:

turns out when you install ELFX you can also install the weathers

yes, it comes with a FOMOD, that's why I thought you knew what you installed^^

means too that you can use ELFX without the addons

without ENB ELFX is great, it does all I need

and yes that harcore enchanter works in dungeons like the DDi dark cloud blindfold, I like that, because I play mostly ranger builds, and in dungeons this wont save me from close encounters =D

(especially great with sexlab pheromones)

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