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Hello, everybody, I have a long load time issue and I cannot understand it, also I think I have fixed the issue(nope, still broken) but it made me even more confused.

 

a bit of background, I have had Fallout 4 installed on my 500gb SSD for a long time, and recently I brought a new 1tb SSD drive for my games and I moved it across and shortly afterwards the long load times started happening. and because I have been swapping mods recently relating to the move from 4p to AAF, I cannot tell you when the issue began.

 

I have done the following, verify installation, removed ini's(and then returned), turned off all of the mods and none of them worked.

 

and then I did the folder rename technique i.e. Meshes to Meshes_2 and discovered that the problem lies in the sound folder.

 

so I began the process of slowly move each folder to the original location and I couldn't find the bad files(if there is any bad files)

 

so I use Procmon and discovered that it was the entire sound and Music folder's that was at fault.

I think Fallout4 wanted to look for the sounds in different location from \Fallout 4\Data\Sound\... to \Fallout 4\Data\Data\Sound\...

 

So the fix(?) was is to make a DATA folder inside of DATA folder and copy the contents of both folders inside it(which work once or twice)

 

please help me to try to understand what the hell is going on with my game

 

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here is an example of the procmon with this issue as well as an example of what the cpu usage is like(only the first half, not the second)

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more updates. I didn't fix it, I tried to play the game again and another long wait, so i ran procmon again and there was no information for 2 minutes.

I moved it back to my system drive, still slow

I uninstalled it and reinstalled it from its steam backup and it was fast until I added the sound and Music folders.

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and in case anyone needs to know my load order

 

Spoiler

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Probably not related to your issue, but the general cause for the often insane loading times - mostly when leaving interior areas towards densely populated exterior areas (Boston) - seem to be the FPS lock either due to Vsync or the limiter functions in GPU drivers or ENB.

 

I couldn't play with either disabled, but can definitely confirm that loading a savegame in such an area only takes a small fraction compared to the loading screens after being indoors there.

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My own long load times - insanely long - began immediately after I installed Project Valkyrie (and Outcasts and Remnants, and Fusion City).

These three mods alone total around ~20GB!

Fantastic mods and I love them. Fine work.

But these crazy load times are really wearing me down, heheh...

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Could be a bug with the game engine itself. maybe something no one could get done right. and the only whay this occur the more the bigger the mods are the longer load will be. The thing it seem to trigger this mosly in big dense sectors where there are many npc present. i read people making statement like project valkyrie or fusion city does not need to be these mods add all but more like more added npc in the area. also if you have mods like CBBE and most mods are adding lots of female character and all these character are loaded with cbbe and all other textures mods that would really criple your entire system.

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I had long load times when moving between load areas some time back, I don't think it was anything to do with sound files in my case.

 

I ended up using this mod:

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10283

 

Used it ever since. Load times between load areas (interior or exterior) are incredibly fast with it, a few seconds at most.

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