I'm having a npc face issue, and I'd like some assistance

[Rusty Core]

I have Inhabitants Of Skyrim installed as well as GCE's npc replacer mod and while I don't run into too many issues, I occasionally run into an npc that defaulted back to their vanilla face bc of the two mods. NPC Overhaul doesn't show all the characters it replaces in its gallery on nexus and its files aren't name specific so I cant remove the conflicting textures and meshes from the mod like ive done before to GCE.

 

In this particular case Im dealing with Karliah. Appparently NPC Overhaul modifies her too, and I know already that GCEs replacer does as well. I want to use GCEs version, but because I don't know what the Inhab of skyrim karliah files is named, I don't know what to get rid of. What Id like is for someone to maybe upload a pic of Inhabs karliah or just tell me what the names are so that maybe I can try to identify what facetint and mesh things I need to remove. 

 

Ignoring the others, this GCEs Karliah:

 

if theres an easier way to solve this besides uninstalling one of the mods, id like to know. thx

[Rusty Core]

also sorry if this is posted in the wrong spot or something. idont often post a forum topic.

[RW311]

Karliah = 0001B07F.   Go in game, open console type help "npcname" this will get you the id of any npc you need to find if you need to replace other face gen files.

 

[Rusty Core]

1 hour ago, RW311 said:

Karliah = 0001B07F.   Go in game, open console type help "npcname" this will get you the id of any npc you need to find if you need to replace other face gen files.

 

Thank you! with a few extra steps, I managed to get her looking the way I wanted. Had I inspected the file names more closely I probaby would've figured this out myself. 

[Rusty Core]

14 hours ago, RW311 said:

Karliah = 0001B07F.   Go in game, open console type help "npcname" this will get you the id of any npc you need to find if you need to replace other face gen files.

 

 

13 hours ago, Rusty Core said:

Thank you! with a few extra steps, I managed to get her looking the way I wanted. Had I inspected the file names more closely I probaby would've figured this out myself. 

alright. Back again. Now I'm having another issue that I've encountered before much earlier in my current playthrough, though it was with Jenassa who also turns out to be a dark elf and also uses GCEs replacer. Apparently, in some indoor spaces, Karliah creates lag. Its slight lag, but its enough to make me wonder what the hell. The only reason I managed to get past it with Jenassa was cuz I lost her to dragon priest and she died, therefore ending the lag. obviously, I don't want karliah to die, so what should I do instead?

 

This has only happened to these two dark elves in the game, whose files were wiped from Inhab already, whose replacers from the GCE mod are working and whose lag issues only happen in indoor spaces such as dungeons. my character is also a dark elf tho nothing has happened. 

[RW311]

Well you could try this, find the karliah folder added by the mod and update the skeleton inside with the one you are currently using see if that makes any difference, make a backup of what is there to fall back on.

For some reason it changes npc to use custom race then changes skeleton file path from default this could potentially cause lag issues if you were using some hdt  replacement mesh for the karliah armor, I don't know if this is your case but there is no clear reason for this npc to have this custom skeleton and it's generally not a good practice to have multiple different skeletons and body meshes for npcs.

[Rusty Core]

On ‎10‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 11:21 AM, RW311 said:

Well you could try this, find the karliah folder added by the mod and update the skeleton inside with the one you are currently using see if that makes any difference, make a backup of what is there to fall back on.

For some reason it changes npc to use custom race then changes skeleton file path from default this could potentially cause lag issues if you were using some hdt  replacement mesh for the karliah armor, I don't know if this is your case but there is no clear reason for this npc to have this custom skeleton and it's generally not a good practice to have multiple different skeletons and body meshes for npcs.

So by skeleton do you mean something like xpmse? And I do use HDT for a few things, body included, tho im not sure her armor or anything was affected by it.  the bodies for most of the npcs in game are cbbe, including the edited ones from overhaul. only bijn warmaidens (my only other npc modification mod, which I haven't had issues with yet) and GCE change the body, though as far as I can tell gce only overrides my chosen texures, and warmaidens does have its own body meshes so it uses those. but that shouldn't affect karliah I would think

[RW311]

I looked at the mods esp, it does not use your default skeleton.  Look in meshes\actors\character\GCENPOH\10 Karliah\character assets female... this folder has skeleton which is referenced by karliahs new race, this is not xpmse skeleton. It's not guaranteed but very likely that this skeleton combined with whatever body and armor you are using is causing the lag when around this npc, replace that with the skeleton from your default character assets female folder that was installed by xpmse.