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CTD when I enter  Windhelm or Markarth. All the rest of the cities work fine.

I believe it might be something to do with JK's skyrim, however, i tried disabling it and all its patches, game still crashes with JK's skyrim disabled, when I try to enter those 2 cities.

I even teleported to some of the cities interiors, so I can enter the city from within, still when I enter the city itself, game crashes, just when it finishes loading the cell.

Anyone has had a similiar problem with these two cities in particular?

 

Load order:

 

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
Campfire.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm
Heels Sound.esm
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
TerrainLodRedone.esp
LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
EmbersHD.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
MajesticMountains.esp
BlendedRoads.esp
TrueStormsSE.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
FNIS.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
TKDodge.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
NB-Scars.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
iNeed.esp
iNeed - Extended.esp
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
Immersive Jewelry.esp
Better descriptions SSE.esp
Footprints.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp
Hunters Not Bandits.esp
DarkerNights.esp
DustEffectsSSE.esp
LightngDuringStorm.esp
STAC.esp
FloraRespawnFix.esp
lm_astronach.esp
Skysan_Icicle.esp
Skysan_GlassAW.esp
RaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenuSE.esp
UltimateCombat.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
Skyrim Alchemy Fixed - Ordinator.esp
Enchanting Freedom.esp
JKs_Skyrim_No_Lights_Patch.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
know_your_enemy.esp
Immersive Encounters.esp
Book of UUNP - Textures.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
TrueStart - BaseSkills.esp
No NPC Greetings.esp
honedmetal.esp
Super Simple Lock Bash.esp
DisableCinematicKills.esp
CFTO.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Cloaks.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
Immersive Wenches.esp
Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Frostfall.esp
WetandCold.esp
TrueStorms_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp
Deadly Wenches.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
CFTO-JK-Patch.esp
Rayeks_End_SSE_1.0.esp
notice board.esp
NewCollection.esp
LADX_SSE.esp
Skyrim Better Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
College Bridge Light Fix - Clean ITM and Remove Unnecessary Record.esp
FNISspells.esp
Starting Spell Choice.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
TERAArmorsSSE.esp
TeraArmorsSSE Leveled Lists Rare.esp
TeraArmorsSSE RARE USSEP Patch.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
Mortal Enemies.esp
Cardio SE 2.0.esp
Visible Favorited Gear.esp
iHUD.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
ReducedGoldRewards.esp
notice board rewards reduced.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
YMMP.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
Ashes.esp
mslDeviousCaptures.esp
DeviouslyHelpless.esp
SexLab Cumshot.esp
SLAL_K4Anims.esp
Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
Real Flying.esp
Animated Dragon WingsSE.esp
SimpleMasochism.esp
SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
HitStop.esp
TKRecoil.esp
TradeBarter.esp
SLA Monitor Widget.esp
SexLabTools.esp
Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
Hunterborn - iNeed Patch.esp
Warglaive of Azzinoth.esp
One With Nature.esp
NewmillerPiercings2.esp
NewmillerPiercings3.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
SkyrimRecycling.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
Unprotected Follower Faction.esp
Upgrade Soul Gems.esp
SexLabRandomSex.esp
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
ELE_SSE.esp
RAO - ELE - Alternate Start Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
RealisticWaterTwo+-+Verdant+Patch.esp
Scarcity SE - Less Loot Mod.esp
Scarcity SE - 4x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
Scarcity SE - 6x Loot Rarity.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp
Bijin_AIO 2018.esp
TUS.esp

 

Posted

Windhelm is pretty bad for being a CTD site..hands down the worst of any city in Skyrim imho.  I've had to resort to using coc to get into the interior cells in Windhelm but the city exterior is a no go zone for me.  But that's from my experience in Oldrim. It works fine with me in SE. 

Posted

There's a high chance you're right on the hunch. 

Unofficial rule of modding is never to disable a mod midway through a playthrough.

 

Test out your assumption by starting a new game and traveling to Windhelm without JK's Skyrim.

Posted
2 hours ago, Gyra-ting said:

There's a high chance you're right on the hunch. 

Unofficial rule of modding is never to disable a mod midway through a playthrough.

 

Test out your assumption by starting a new game and traveling to Windhelm without JK's Skyrim.

I started a new game, traveled to windhelm and markarth, no CTDs. I did not disable JK's skyrim, or change anything for that matter.

Then, I loaded my abandoned prison save(after I create a character and setup all my MCM menus, I always start all playthroughs from this, so I don't have to do it again). Same, windhelm and markarth works.

 

So it looks like the problem isn't with the mods or mods-list. Problem is with my current playthough, the save itself, somehow...

 

EDIT: I tried cleaning the save file with ReSaver, no results.

Posted

If its not skeleton, animation(didn't run FNIS), mesh or texture, its mods that:

- abuse OnLocationChange event. Skyrim gets overload when you change area with its own stuff. Get worse if its a big area. Add a couple of mods that do things on location change and ...

- run scripts on actors that are in "unloaded" areas

 

Posted

You're probably using a mod with bad meshes.  For instance Enhanced Textures Detail will cause reliable crashes in Windhelm immediately upon entering if you include the SMIM conflicted meshes unless you run them through one of the more current versions of NIF Optimizer.  There are a lot of supposedly official SE versions of mods that include meshes that have not been converted as well so I would remove any mods you have that touch areas where you're crashing 1 by 1 til you find which one is doing it and then run the meshes for that mod through NIF Optimizer.  I never crash.

Posted
16 hours ago, znaroks said:

So it looks like the problem isn't with the mods or mods-list. Problem is with my current playthough, the save itself, somehow...

 

EDIT: I tried cleaning the save file with ReSaver, no results.

If the problem not happend in a NEW GAME, evidently, the problem is in the savegame.

If ReSaver can't cure it, bad lucky, you have a corrupted savegame.

Try load a savegame from one week ago, or two if need. 

I not work, forgot all yours savegames and start a NEW GAME.

  • 4 months later...
Posted

I have the exact same problem. With a new Save I can enter Markarth, with my regular one I get a CTD.

Cleaned the Save with did nothing.

 

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