En3ermost Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 Hi, after days trying to fix my Skyrim game randomly crashing without success I decided to ask for help here as a last resort since I really dunno what to do anymore. My game still crashes randomly after fast travelling, speaking with npcs, opening the item or spell menu, after loading a save or simply while I'm walking around. There's not a pattern it just crashes at random. I tried everything, I have some crash fix mod installed (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/ and https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443/). I also run FNIS everytime i run the game and I use LooT and I've cleaned my mods of ITM and deleted references using Tes5edit. The Dawnguard.esm dlc also reports to have 57 deleted navmeshes but I dunno how to fix them yet. A thing that I have noticed is that everytime I check the game files using steam it says that I miss 1/2 files and it download them. Also Loot tells me that my Update.esm gets dirty with 96 ITM and 3 deleted references every time steam download those missing files even if I clean it using Tes5edit. One thing I have to say however is that I used to unistall lots of mods during mid game and I recently discovered that doing this is really bad for the game itself. I've also installed EnbBoost and I have tweaked my Enblocal.ini file following the S.T.E.P guide and right now is like this: [PROXY] EnableProxyLibrary=false InitProxyFunctions=true ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll [GLOBAL] UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true UseDefferedRendering=true IgnoreCreationKit=true [PERFORMANCE] SpeedHack=true EnableOcclusionCulling=true [MEMORY] ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true DisableDriverMemoryManager=false DisablePreloadToVRAM=false EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false ReservedMemorySizeMb=512 VideoMemorySizeMb=2690 EnableCompression=true AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false [THREADS] DataSyncMode=0 PriorityMode=0 EnableUnsafeFixes=false [MULTIHEAD] ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false VideoAdapterIndex=0 [WINDOW] ForceBorderless=false ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false [ENGINE] ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true MaxAnisotropy=16 ForceLodBias=false LodBias=0.0 AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false EnableVSync=false VSyncSkipNumFrames=0 [LIMITER] WaitBusyRenderer=false EnableFPSLimit=false FPSLimit=10.0 [INPUT] //shift KeyCombination=16 //f12 KeyUseEffect=123 //home KeyFPSLimit=36 //num / 106 KeyShowFPS=106 //print screen KeyScreenshot=44 //enter KeyEditor=13 //f4 KeyFreeVRAM=115 //B KeyBruteForce=66 KeyDepthOfField=118 [ADAPTIVEQUALITY] Enable=false Quality=1 DesiredFPS=20.0 [ANTIALIASING] EnableEdgeAA=false EnableTemporalAA=false EnableSubPixelAA=false [FIX] FixGameBugs=true FixParallaxBugs=true FixParallaxTerrain=false FixAliasedTextures=true IgnoreInventory=true FixTintGamma=true RemoveBlur=false FixSubSurfaceScattering=true FixSkyReflection=true FixCursorVisibility=true FixLag=false [LONGEXPOSURE] EnableLongExposureMode=false Time=1.0 BlendMax=0.0 My pc specs according to Skyrim Performance monitor (I know its a potato pc so don't judge): Windows 10 Pro CPU Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz x2 Total memory: 4095 MB Video card: AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series Total VRAM: 1024 MB My skyrim.ini file is like this: [General] sLanguage=ENGLISH uExterior Cell Buffer=0 [Display] fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0 fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0 fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0 iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048 bAllowScreenshot=1 [Audio] fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0 fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0 fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0 fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0 [Grass] bAllowCreateGrass=1 bAllowLoadGrass=0 [GeneralWarnings] SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Archive] sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa [Combat] fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0 fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0 [Papyrus] fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0 bEnableLogging=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 fUpdateBugdetMS=1.2 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.2 iMinMemoryPageSize=128 iMaxMemoryPageSize=512 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=76800 [Water] bReflectLODObjects=0 bReflectLODLand=0 bReflectSky=1 bReflectLODTrees=0 And my mod list is this one (I use NMM): Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 SexLab.esm=1 SexLabAroused.esm=1 hdtHighHeel.esm=1 AP Skyrim.esm=1 ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm=1 RaceCompatibility.esm=1 GeneralStores.esm=1 OSA.esm=1 HighResTexturePack01.esp=1 HighResTexturePack02.esp=1 HighResTexturePack03.esp=1 FNIS.esp=1 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 SLAnimLoader.esp=1 SLALAnimObj.esp=1 SexLabDefeat.esp=1 SexLab Submit.esp=0 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp=1 WetFunction.esp=1 SlaveTats.esp=1 Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp=1 Apropos.esp=1 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1 SSv2.esp=1 XPMSE.esp=1 Hikari.esp=1 ETaC - Complete.esp=1 Vandia + Fort & Various v2.0.esp=1 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp=1 ta4_ris.esp=1 baraban-steel-helms.esp=1 BikiniAscendVolume1.esp=1 sevisethmanor.esp=0 Helsmyrr.esp=1 SHFBreezehomeBasement.esp=1 SeaPointSettlement.esp=1 a house in each village.esp=1 GerheardtKarthwasten.esp=1 GerheardtDarkwater.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1 dragon hill lodge.esp=1 ivarsteadxmanor.esp=0 mariuskeep.esp=1 morthal estate.esp=0 Heldenloft.esp=1 Emily.esp=1 ClefJShorsStone.esp=1 LeafRest OnePiece.esp=1 Fleetford.esp=1 VikingShipPlayerHome.esp=1 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp=1 SofiaFollower.esp=1 DNR_Vet_v1.0a.esp=0 dawnstarhome 0.2v.esp=0 TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp=1 AdenzFollower.esp=1 BetterBreezhomeLighting.esp=1 MorthalHome.esp=1 rorikstead_mill.esp=1 N's House.esp=0 WiccadMorthalPlayerHome.esp=0 SpousesEnhanced.esp=1 BreezehomeShadowStripingFix.esp=1 Leilani.esp=1 Yeriel Follower.esp=1 Facelight.esp=1 Leiyane Follower.esp=1 SvaalbardEstate.esp=1 Tanya.esp=1 ZazResources.esp=1 Kate.esp=1 snowbound estate.esp=0 _sunya.esp=1 NewVampChainsArmorReplacer.esp=0 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1 WinterholdBrokenbluffHome.esp=1 Moniko.esp=1 aya_099.esp=1 Jennifer.esp=1 HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1 Kitiara.esp=1 SexLab Romance.esp=1 Sunsakuka's Follower.esp=1 YuiH StandAlone Follower - Merura.esp=1 Sunniva.esp=1 Frida.esp=1 EllaFollower.esp=1 Avelyn Follower.esp=1 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1 Hunter's Grotto.esp=1 WMFSEliFollower.esp=1 SteelPlateBikini.esp=1 RiverWoodFlowering1.0.esp=1 DragonBoneBikini.esp=1 Dwarvenbikini.esp=1 BandedIronBikini.esp=1 AnellaFollower.esp=1 Kamille.esp=1 FollowerSha.esp=1 My Home Is Your Home.esp=1 SteelBikini.esp=1 Wolfbikini.esp=1 BladesBikini.esp=1 Irina Follower.esp=1 NMD - Heather Standalone.esp=1 Jahiya.esp=1 CailinFollower.esp=1 DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp=1 DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp=1 Pupetteer Master.esp=1 tetro - Lilu.esp=1 Serana.esp=1 Succubus-san.esp=1 UNP Leather Clothes.esp=1 svs Pretty Ranger.esp=1 Draugr Marauder Light Armors combined.esp=1 Tropicalpack.esp=1 SummonFollowers.esp=1 Overknee_Kaitlyn.esp=1 Vivace.esp=1 Toccata.esp=1 EyviFollower.esp=1 Marcia Follower.esp=1 Abigail The Maid.esp=1 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1 Hollie Follower 1.0.esp=1 Khayla.esp=1 Alessandra Standalone follower.esp=1 Veteran Nord Plate.esp=1 UNPB Barbarian Armor.esp=1 BFPU Orcish Armor.esp=1 Ancient Skyforge Armor.esp=1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
GenioMaestro Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 The problem can be 144 mod's in that small machine. Skyrim have some limits and your machine also, of course. For give stability to the game verify that you have all the recomended tools. SKSE Memory Patch (not need if use "UseOSAllocators=1" but strictly necesary if not have it) Crash Fixes 12 with SKSE Plugin Preloader for activate "UseOSAllocators=1" ENB in Boost mode (i see you have it) In last, you have XPMSE in position 36 and is recomended put it lower in your mod list, in the last 10 position. But the realy important rule is: XPMSE must overwrite all and none mod can overwrite XPMSE. You must install some important patch's like: Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch Static Mesh Improvement Mod - SMIM And think if your machine can handle the HDT that you have like hdtHighHeel and HDTPhysicsWeaponSling. i have better computer and not have it, i only have HDT in body. Also, some mods like DYNAVISION and moded followers put a big overcharge in the machine, specially when only have 1g of video memory and because you only have 4g of phisical memory enb not have enougth free memory for work and can crash. The last point can be some delicated parameters in skyrim.ini and skyrimpref.ini and i recomend use BethIni for chage it in safe way. Open BethIni and press the button Medium or Low, activate the mark for ENB and press save exit
En3ermost Posted July 24, 2018 Author Posted July 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: The problem can be 144 mod's in that small machine. Skyrim have some limits and your machine, also, of course. For give stability to the game verify that you have all the recomended tools. SKSE Memory Patch (not need if use "UseOSAllocators=1" but strictly necesary if not have it) Crash Fixes 12 with SKSE Plugin Preloader for activate "UseOSAllocators=1" ENB in Boost mode (i see you have it) In last, you have XPMSE in position 36 and is recomended put it lower in your mod list, in the last 10 position. But the realy important rule is: XPMSE must overwrite all and none mod can overwrite XPMSE. You must install some important patch's like: Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch Static Mesh Improvement Mod - SMIM And think if your machine can handle the HDT that you have like hdtHighHeel, HDTPhysicsWeaponSling, DYNAVISION... and others.. i have better computer and not have it, i only have HDT in body. So, first of all thank you for your help. I installed the skse plugin preloader and activated the "Use OSAllocators=1", I also moved the XPMSE as second last before the bashed patch and i have unistalled the highheel, hdtphysicsWeaponsSling and Dynavision mods as you suggested. In your opinion, what other heavy mods should I unistall? I'm aso installing the unofficialskyrim legendary edition patch right now, hoping that will work since last time I tried to install it my game didn't even open...
Grey Cloud Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 I pretty much agree with Genio here. I would add that you have a lot of mods which add a lot of extra content to the game which puts an additional strain on your already limited resources. e.g. How many armour mods do you need? How many player homes? How many followers? Traipsing round with a gang of followers will put a strain on your resources. In addition custom folllowers and AFT might not get on very well. You have CBBE body but have at least some UNP armours. Pointless. Don't run Defeat and Submit. Choose one, Defeat is the better option. You have the old version of the Brawl Bug fix. Get rid and get the Modern Brawl Bug Fix. You don't need Realistic Ragdolls as XPMSE deals with that now. Get rid of the Official Hi-Res Packs, they eat resources. Try Skyrim HD 2K Textures or one of the many other replacers. This is just a suggestion but rather than use ETaC which is a good mod but adds a lot of vegetation, why not try JK's Skyrim Lite. The textures are only 2k (not sure about ETaC) and it doesn't add the veg. You could also ditch the Shors Stone mod and any others that will be covered by JK's (or ETaC) There's lot of good advice here which may help squeeze a bit more out of your machine. http://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.10.0 Apart from that it's looking good. P.S. You will never be completely free of crashes with your rig but you should be able to get frustration down to a more tolerable level.
Uncle64 Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 Agree here, that GPU do only have 1-2 gig ram. Depending on model. My 7850 did have 1 gig. Get rid of that HiresPack. Drop this. Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1 And install Modernd Brawlbug patch instead. This 2 are in wrong order, it will work better. This is the order they should be in. You have Wrye use it for fixing up the small errors you have, dont forget to remake your bashed patch. Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
En3ermost Posted July 24, 2018 Author Posted July 24, 2018 Alright I'll do it, it becomes pretty difficult not to create conflicts or leave useless mods around that eat up lot of resources for nothing when you install too many things (especially to non programmers or modders like me). Thanks for the tips guys.
Grey Cloud Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 I should add that you will need to start a new game to see any benefits as things can get baked into a save.
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