quick error question

[Lux_05]

I have never seen this error before and it is now happening on alot of load areas (caves mostly far as I've tested) even on areas I've been to previously, it's always different files specified on this box, is there a generic fix or is this a very specific variant of error (running nearly 200 mods) and will I potentially need to reinstall?

 

[GenioMaestro]

Your mod list can help a lot when try locate a problem like this. Maybe you are mixing old mods with new mods, or you are fault of USLEP or SMIM.

 

Is evident that you have crash fixes, but have you installed the SKSE Plugin Preloader and enabled UseOSAllocators=1?

Have you ENBoost or normal ENB?

[Lux_05]

is there a place where the modlist is stored in txt form? or need I type it out(mod organizer)? I have USLEP, and I had smim until this error happened which I then reinstalled it, errored again, uninstalled it. I have not got the plugin preloader, should I? not sure what osallocators are but I assume its an ini option, quick searching my ini file didnt pop up with anything so where would it be or which ini file and line should I add that under? I should have enboost running.

 

edit: as a note it seems to be happening toward the middle-end of my load time, not instantly if that helps, currently just testing it with sunderstone gorge, which I cannot enter without getting this every time so far (was in there before though) got the same error while exiting moss mother cavern but was able to just load back into a previous save and exit normally that time.

 

edit again: unsurprisingly reinstalling and recleaning the masterfiles also did nothing, but I am noticing that it's constantly saying there's an error with cobwebs, any idea what mod modifies that nif?

[GenioMaestro]

I not have MO and can't explain how export the load order with MO. I use NMM and have an option for export load order to txt and export load order to clipboard, search for it. Other option is use LOOT and press the three vertical button (that open a menu) and select copy load order, paste it in a spoiler in your message.

 

The SKSE Plugin Preloader + the option UseOSAllocators=1 only add stability to the game, but i not think that can solve your problem.

 

When happend is not relevant because really say nothing. But your papyrus log can help in locate the problem. Add it to your next message.

 

The first thing that you must verify is if your problem appear in a NEW GAME or only when load a savegame. If you have the problem in a new game is evident a mod problem and the best way for locate it is disable half of your mods and try again. If the problem persist remove half again and continue reduce the number of mods until the problem disapear. Then slowly start activate mod until locate the problematic mod. Maybe you have a problem with a spider mod.

 

If the problem not appear in a NEW game is a problem with your savegame and must clean it with SaveGameCleaner or ReSave.

[Grey Cloud]

3 hours ago, anonmx44 said:

not sure what osallocators are but I assume its an ini option, quick searching my ini file didnt pop up with anything so where would it be or which ini file and line should I add that under? I should have enboost running

Use OS Allocators = 1 is in Data/SKSE/Plugins/CrashFixPlugin.ini (It's the first entry in mine).

If ENBoost is setup and running correctly you will see a notification, in red text, on your loading screen (top left corner).

[RitualClarity]

3 hours ago, anonmx44 said:

is there a place where the modlist is stored in txt form? or need I type it out(mod organizer)? I have USLEP, and I had smim until this error happened which I then reinstalled it, errored again, uninstalled it. I have not got the plugin preloader, should I? not sure what osallocators are but I assume its an ini option, quick searching my ini file didnt pop up with anything so where would it be or which ini file and line should I add that under? I should have enboost running.

 

edit: as a note it seems to be happening toward the middle-end of my load time, not instantly if that helps, currently just testing it with sunderstone gorge, which I cannot enter without getting this every time so far (was in there before though) got the same error while exiting moss mother cavern but was able to just load back into a previous save and exit normally that time.

 

edit again: unsurprisingly reinstalling and recleaning the masterfiles also did nothing, but I am noticing that it's constantly saying there's an error with cobwebs, any idea what mod modifies that nif?

Open up your mod organizer file. Check profiles folder. find the profile you are using and you can see the loadorder.txt and modlist.txt (I believe this is the name but you should be able to figure  it out easy enough once you enter that folder. With this (these) files you can upload as a txt or in a spoiler (export to clipboard... videos will show this if you don't understand  or just copy the file while open and paste)  you should be able to give a lot of info that your support personal will be able to use r/t load orders and mod lists.

[Lux_05]

@Genio Maestro cleaning the save was the first thing I did, I'll load my backup save as well as try a fresh new game and see if I can enter it

 

@Grey cloud I'm actually not seeing that ini at all, and actually I had the flag set on false, set it to true dunno if that makes much difference still getting the error though

 

@Ritual Clarity Thank you kindly, attached below

Loadorder.txt

 

edit: even just my basic backup save seems to be free of this error(entered, ran through, ran back, exited, entered again), so I'd assume it's some kind of save corruption then, would it be possible to recover my save or is it fucked completely? since this happened with moss mother too once would I be able to simply avoid sunderstone or is everything going to start corrupting? any way to avoid this in the future?

[Grey Cloud]

3 hours ago, anonmx44 said:

@Grey cloud I'm actually not seeing that ini at all, and actually I had the flag set on false, set it to true dunno if that makes much difference still getting the error though

Do you mean you are not seeing the CrashFixPlugin.ini?

Which flag are you talking about? It is not a good idea to just make changes to things without knowing what you are doing.

Search your computer for 'CrashFixPlugin' and if it is in the wrong location, cut and paste it to the correct one.

[Lux_05]

There are no files in my entire directory that have that name(or any variation of searches like Crashfix Crash fix, etc.), so I guess it's not installed, and I just mean I turned on speedhackwithoutgraphics in the enblocal ini as I dont use an enb so if I'm remembering right that should have been set to true

[Grey Cloud]

15 minutes ago, anonmx44 said:

There are no files in my entire directory that have that name(or any variation of searches like Crashfix Crash fix, etc.), so I guess it's not installed, and I just mean I turned on speedhackwithoutgraphics in the enblocal ini as I dont use an enb so if I'm remembering right that should have been set to true

UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics should be set to TRUE if you are using just ENBoost. Are you seeing the notification on the load screen?

 

Presumably Crash Fixes is on your machine somewhere. You need to find it and put it in the correct location.

 

Try to be more exact and specific in what you write. Phrases like 'in my entire directory' doesn't tell anyone anything.

[GenioMaestro]

18 minutes ago, anonmx44 said:

There are no files in my entire directory that have that name(or any variation of searches like Crashfix Crash fix, etc.), so I guess it's not installed, and I just mean I turned on speedhackwithoutgraphics in the enblocal ini as I dont use an enb so if I'm remembering right that should have been set to true

This can't be... in your first post you have a screenshot with a error generated by Crash Fixes 12, then you have it installed, totaly sure, because is the only way for get the error and take the screenshot. When you install it you get 3 files called CrashFixPlugin.dll, CrashFixPlugin.ini, CrashFixPlugin_preload.txt and these files are installed in SKYRIM\DATA\SKSE\plugins and you must have these files, totaly sure.

 

The problem, for you, can be MO. When you use MO the mod files are not installed directly to your REAL skyrim directory, MO use a virtual directory based in the profile and install the mod files in other directory related to your profile. You must search in that directory.

 

8 hours ago, anonmx44 said:

edit: even just my basic backup save seems to be free of this error(entered, ran through, ran back, exited, entered again), so I'd assume it's some kind of save corruption then, would it be possible to recover my save or is it fucked completely? since this happened with moss mother too once would I be able to simply avoid sunderstone or is everything going to start corrupting? any way to avoid this in the future?

Talking about your problem, if this not appear in a new game and only happend when load some saves is a problem with the savegame, probably generated by un-install mods in midle play or simply by savegame corruption. The only posibility is try clean it. If the clean not work must forget it and use one of the correct savegames.

[Lux_05]

@grey cloud yea I only want enboost enabled and before this that setting was set to false, I set it to true, dunno why it was false in the first place. 

 

@both yea searching MO instead of the skyrim directory I do indeed have it installed but as Genio pointed out it seems to be virtually installed, and I have no idea where that is, unless needed I'm not gonna go digging for it.

 

@Genio maestro actually I think uninstalling darkend (previous playthrough) may have done it, odd since I've uninstalled things mid playthrough (I know ill advised to begin with) before and never had this happen, but lesson learned, F for the save file regardless

 

thank you three for your time I may mostly lurk but damn I love this community.

[Grey Cloud]

I don't use MO so I can't help you there.

Glad you're up and running again.

[RitualClarity]

On 7/9/2018 at 11:41 AM, anonmx44 said:

@grey cloud yea I only want enboost enabled and before this that setting was set to false, I set it to true, dunno why it was false in the first place. 

 

@both yea searching MO instead of the skyrim directory I do indeed have it installed but as Genio pointed out it seems to be virtually installed, and I have no idea where that is, unless needed I'm not gonna go digging for it. 

 

@Genio maestro actually I think uninstalling darkend (previous playthrough) may have done it, odd since I've uninstalled things mid playthrough (I know ill advised to begin with) before and never had this happen, but lesson learned, F for the save file regardless

 

thank you three for your time I may mostly lurk but damn I love this community.

Double check the Overwrites folder. In MO many files end up getting stuck there when MO doesn't know what to do with it. That or right click on the mod this is for and select "explore" and you should get an open window with the mods installed for that mod. In there it might be.  Other than that I don't know as I don't use this mod and don't have a working game installed to even try.

[Lux_05]

alright welp opening this again cuz bout 4 hours into fresh game and same thing popped up so it doesn't appear to be the save file, any other ideas?

 

Edit: restored from MO backup.... from 6 months ago, I dun goofed

[GenioMaestro]

If the problem not appear instantly in a new game and only happend after play some hours, This can't be a mod problem. This appear a memory issue, that mean when you advance in the game and get/make quest, get more armors, items, spells and habilitys the game need more memory for manage it.

 

You have 167 plugins and you must be sure if your machine can handle it. Some problems can be related to computer capacity and others are inherent to the proper 32 bit architecture of skyrim. For solve it you must use all the recomended tools and configure it acordly to your machine. 

 

Be sure you have SKSE memory patch.

Install Crash Fixes 12 and SKSE Plugin Preloader for enable UseOSAllocators=1

Activate your ENB in ENBoost mode for free some video memory.

Re-install XPMSE and put it in the last 10 slots of your load order.

 

Never change your load order in mid game. Some mods are very sensibles to changes in load order.