zarantha Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, Zaflis said: Few strange things: - Devious Devices - Lore Patch.esp < known to be problematic. - Devious Devices - Hider rework.esp < What is this? - DD - I4 Patch.esp < What is this? If it's "Integration" patch know that current DD is version 5 not 4. DD Lore patch is ok, as long as they updated it to the new one where the lore patch was fixed for 5.2. The old patch was the one breaking things. DD Hider rework is from the DD NG discord. It should mean they have DD NG, and the discord version of Unforgiving Devices. UD 3.x requires this for the older versions of DD NG. The NG team is working redoing the device hider as a native function in the DLL. DD - I4 is an icon patch for Inventory Interface Icon Injector (aka I4). DD I4 should be this mod. 5 hours ago, cokacora said: Okay im not sure where i messed up, but im fairly certain my load order is slightly wrong but i can't see where. when launching an old save things work fine, but saving then trying to load that causes DD to freak out and give device hider issues. starting a new game just gives a perma black screen. been staring at this for a bit and i feel like im just blinding over the issue at this point Load order Reveal hidden contents # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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Wyrmstooth.esp Lux - Dungeons Revisited Patch.esp Lux - 3DNPC patch.esp Lux - Water for ENB patch.esp Lux - Wintersun patch.esp Lux - USSEP patch.esp Lux - Embers XD patch.esp Lux - Vigil Enforcer CC.esp Lux - Umbra CC.esp Lux - Tundra Homestead patch.esp Lux - The Cause patch.esp Lux - Staff of Hasedoki CC.esp Lux - Skyrim Sewers.esp Lux - Shadowfoot Sanctum patch.esp Lux - Saints and Seducers patch.esp Lux - Pets of Skyrim CC.esp Lux - No grass in caves patch.esp Lux - Necrohouse patch.esp Lux - Nchuanthumz Dwarven Home patch.esp Lux - Live Another Life patch.esp Lux - JK's Skyrim.esp Lux - Hendraheim patch.esp Lux - Goldbrand CC.esp Lux - Goblins CC.esp Lux - Ghosts of the Tribunal CC.esp Lux - Forgotten Seasons.esp Lux - Farmer patch.esp Lux - Elite Crossbows.esp Lux - Divine Elegance patch.esp Lux - Dead Mans Dread Patch.esp Lux - Dawnfang CC.esp Lux - CC Fish patch.esp Lux - Brighter interior nights.esp Lux - Bloodchill Manor patch.esp Lux - Bittercup Patch.esp LUX - Apocrypha Patch - Rudy ENB NAT.esp Lux - 3DNPC Alternate Start patch.esp LBS-Lux.esp Lux - Brighter Templates.esp Lux - Even Brighter Templates.esp Water for ENB (Shades of Skyrim).esp Water for ENB - Patch - Clear Creek Water.esp Water for ENB - Patch - Darker LOD Water.esp Water for ENB - Patch - Generic Landscape Patch.esp Natural Waterfalls - Water for ENB Patch (Shades of Skyrim).esp Water for ENB - Patch - Clear Underwater.esp Im a bit stump tho, since i haven't changed the load order since i last played, and even disabling the few mods i put in since the last time i played left me with the error still, any insight? What I did note is that the DD SE patch is active - what version of DD NG are you on? I assume since you have the hider rework, you're in the NG. If you have DD NG 0.3.x then you should have removed the DD SE patch. And if you have DD NG 0.3.3, then device hider rework is redundant and should be removed. You also have the Lore patch before Lore though, so you should either move that below Lore or remove it entirely. You have the DCL BRRF patch after the UD DCL patch - these patches should be after all other DD patches for the mods they're patching. Move them down to the bottom with the other UD patches. I would actually take this over to ponz and ihmk on the discord since the device hider issues could be related to the DD NG and UD work and there might be other things I'm missing. And finally, you might need to think about removing some things and seeing if your list is just too large now for your pc to handle. Or even doing a staggered load for new games to limit the number of scripts firing at once. Basically, cut your load order in half, start, wait for the messages to stop. save and exit, then enable the rest of your mods. Link to comment
cokacora Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 22 hours ago, zarantha said: DD Lore patch is ok, as long as they updated it to the new one where the lore patch was fixed for 5.2. The old patch was the one breaking things. DD Hider rework is from the DD NG discord. It should mean they have DD NG, and the discord version of Unforgiving Devices. UD 3.x requires this for the older versions of DD NG. The NG team is working redoing the device hider as a native function in the DLL. DD - I4 is an icon patch for Inventory Interface Icon Injector (aka I4). DD I4 should be this mod. What I did note is that the DD SE patch is active - what version of DD NG are you on? I assume since you have the hider rework, you're in the NG. If you have DD NG 0.3.x then you should have removed the DD SE patch. And if you have DD NG 0.3.3, then device hider rework is redundant and should be removed. You also have the Lore patch before Lore though, so you should either move that below Lore or remove it entirely. You have the DCL BRRF patch after the UD DCL patch - these patches should be after all other DD patches for the mods they're patching. Move them down to the bottom with the other UD patches. I would actually take this over to ponz and ihmk on the discord since the device hider issues could be related to the DD NG and UD work and there might be other things I'm missing. And finally, you might need to think about removing some things and seeing if your list is just too large now for your pc to handle. Or even doing a staggered load for new games to limit the number of scripts firing at once. Basically, cut your load order in half, start, wait for the messages to stop. save and exit, then enable the rest of your mods. Yea ik its getting a little long, i tend to just add things as i see them. ill trim some of the mods later and fix the load order and see if that fixes things, if its still busted ill see if the discord t can give a hand. thanks for the help! Link to comment
Conni Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Does anyone know of a mod that adds a faster crawl animation for the petsuit and lets me cast magick while wearing it ? Link to comment
randomUser2019 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 For some reason looting non-human NPCs or harvesting most plants isn't triggering any DCL events. I've turned on the debug features as well and they don't even log. I've only had them log for human NPCs, chests, barrels and ores. Is there a way to fix this? Link to comment
zarantha Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 53 minutes ago, randomUser2019 said: For some reason looting non-human NPCs or harvesting most plants isn't triggering any DCL events. I've turned on the debug features as well and they don't even log. I've only had them log for human NPCs, chests, barrels and ores. Is there a way to fix this? Level up. Events are suspended for the first few levels. Or if you're above level 5, make sure you don't have an active DCL quest running. You can check in the mcm under the debug section. Link to comment
Allen Harris Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 12 hours ago, zarantha said: Level up. Events are suspended for the first few levels. Or if you're above level 5, make sure you don't have an active DCL quest running. You can check in the mcm under the debug section. Arousal also effects it A LOT. I ran into not triggering DCL events because of low arousal many times. For a while, I though DCL was broken Link to comment
zarantha Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, Allen Harris said: Arousal also effects it A LOT. I ran into not triggering DCL events because of low arousal many times. For a while, I though DCL was broken I keep forgetting that because I usually end up permanently aroused pretty quick. Link to comment
Allen Harris Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 50 minutes ago, zarantha said: I keep forgetting that because I usually end up permanently aroused pretty quick. Lol I was pulling my hair out for like 3 days, then @Elsidia was like "ummm...are you horny in game?" (Paraphrasing) So i installed Deviously accessible and after the first quest, I was getting hit every 2 minutes 🙃 😂 Link to comment
Elysiasiasia Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 when i was completing the chloe quest, it was stuck on opening nazeem's box stage. the box is shown correctly but i just cannot open it and no E button is shown on the box. and when i tried to type 'setstage dcur_chloequest xxx', any number didnt work until 1000. but set it to 1000 just simply skip entire quest, not a stage. does anyone know how to skip exactly one stage step of the quest, or is there anyway to fix the bug? Link to comment
zarantha Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 52 minutes ago, Elysiasiasia said: when i was completing the chloe quest, it was stuck on opening nazeem's box stage. the box is shown correctly but i just cannot open it and no E button is shown on the box. and when i tried to type 'setstage dcur_chloequest xxx', any number didnt work until 1000. but set it to 1000 just simply skip entire quest, not a stage. does anyone know how to skip exactly one stage step of the quest, or is there anyway to fix the bug? try crouching. it's going to be a stolen item, so if you have something to block stealing, that would be why. Link to comment
Zaflis Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 16 hours ago, Elysiasiasia said: when i was completing the chloe quest, it was stuck on opening nazeem's box stage. the box is shown correctly but i just cannot open it and no E button is shown on the box. and when i tried to type 'setstage dcur_chloequest xxx', any number didnt work until 1000. but set it to 1000 just simply skip entire quest, not a stage. does anyone know how to skip exactly one stage step of the quest, or is there anyway to fix the bug? Judging from the strange UI alone, you have likely some conflicting mod. Link to comment
Elysiasiasia Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/17/2024 at 9:19 PM, zarantha said: try crouching. it's going to be a stolen item, so if you have something to block stealing, that would be why. ty for reply! a fpp mod blocks it. btw is there anyway to delete the flag on tallus? the quest page shows killing him is doable but it seems like he is still marked as essential typing kill in console will let him roll on the floor, lul Link to comment
zarantha Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 8 hours ago, Elysiasiasia said: ty for reply! a fpp mod blocks it. btw is there anyway to delete the flag on tallus? the quest page shows killing him is doable but it seems like he is still marked as essential typing kill in console will let him roll on the floor, lul you can change the flag from essential to protected. protected NPCs can only be killed by the player. Doing so may break your game, so you do that at your own risk. Link to comment
Wacek Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 So, there is a dialogue option that say something like "Help, I can't eat with my hands tied." But is there an option (or a separate mod) that makes it so I actually can't eat while tied? Or is it just for roleplay. Link to comment
Elsidia Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 hours ago, Wacek said: "Help, I can't eat with my hands tied." Actually DCL says that you can't eat with gag inside, but it's done because are some mods what, if you not eat, you die. So DCL gives chance not die, when you are tied up. Link to comment
randomUser2019 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 2/17/2024 at 3:37 PM, zarantha said: Level up. Events are suspended for the first few levels. Or if you're above level 5, make sure you don't have an active DCL quest running. You can check in the mcm under the debug section. Yeah I'm level 16 (also double checked the MCM level limit) and the debug page says there's no active quest. My chance is 5% and I've played around with it. Maybe I'm just suuuuper unlucky for 100+ triggers, but it does seem to trigger (just too often) when the chance is above 25%, but just not below. On 2/18/2024 at 3:56 AM, Allen Harris said: Arousal also effects it A LOT. I ran into not triggering DCL events because of low arousal many times. For a while, I though DCL was broken I've also had a high arousal as per my MCM setup (+25%) and I've got the debug notifications on so I can monitor what's going on. It just always says something along the lines of 'no trap found' or something like that. It's odd, but I'm going to try starting a new game and seeing if it clears up. Link to comment
Wacek Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 7 hours ago, Elsidia said: Actually DCL says that you can't eat with gag inside, but it's done because are some mods what, if you not eat, you die. So DCL gives chance not die, when you are tied up. Hmm, it makes sense from the gameplay perspective. However the little nerd inside me is screaming internally, because having to ask for help while tied up seems logical, but asking for help while gagged? What is the person supposed to do about that, when your mouth is blocked? Haha. Anyway, it sounds like a nice addition to not be able to eat while tied up, so if anyone knows a mod that does something like that, let me know. Link to comment
SpicyNuggies24 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Is it possible to have custom restraints be locked onto you through DCL events? Like, I created a DD restraints version of Audhol's Celene costume mod and thought it would be cool if they could appear in the world and lock themselves onto me. Would I need to edit a certain list for that to happen or what? Link to comment
paintpeeler Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 here's an interesting one. when I try to wear just about any footwear from devious devices I get this error message. now my research says netimmerse override had been replace with racemenu I have that so what do I do now? Link to comment
RoninDog Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I set "Chance to get tied up" to 0% but my character is still tied up sometimes. It doesn't work in AE? Link to comment
Zaflis Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 8 hours ago, RoninDog said: I set "Chance to get tied up" to 0% but my character is still tied up sometimes. It doesn't work in AE? That sounds like a setting for NPC or guard dialogs? If you mean devious traps there is a separate page in MCM for those chances. Please be more specific in what you mean and DCL's MCM is huge. Link to comment
RoninDog Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 5 hours ago, Zaflis said: That sounds like a setting for NPC or guard dialogs? If you mean devious traps there is a separate page in MCM for those chances. Please be more specific in what you mean and DCL's MCM is huge. I meant in the settings for rape, the chance to get tied up after. Link to comment
arthurioBoomer Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) Hi. I did DBVO for this mod (will make your immersion even more). You can check this and some other bdsm-theme voice over here - Edited February 27 by arthurioBoomer Link to comment
zarantha Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 2/22/2024 at 8:29 PM, SpicyNuggies24 said: Is it possible to have custom restraints be locked onto you through DCL events? Like, I created a DD restraints version of Audhol's Celene costume mod and thought it would be cool if they could appear in the world and lock themselves onto me. Would I need to edit a certain list for that to happen or what? I don't think so. You'd need to edit scripts I believe. Link to comment
zarantha Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 2/23/2024 at 7:22 AM, paintpeeler said: here's an interesting one. when I try to wear just about any footwear from devious devices I get this error message. now my research says netimmerse override had been replace with racemenu I have that so what do I do now? Pick a racemenu. are you ae or vr? You get that message when your racemenu is not working properly, or something has reverted DD/DCL's scripts to the LE version. Also make sure nothing is overwriting DD or DCL., except each other. If you have DD NG, that also is ok. Just no separate script patches Link to comment
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