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252 Active Plugins + 347 Installed Mods + Horizon + AAF + RSE

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Full Load Order in Spoiler

 

 

 


GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
DLCUltraHighResolution.esm=0
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
SettlementKeywords.esm=1
Loads.esm=1
NewCalibers.esp=1
Worsin's Garage.esm=1
AAF.esm=1
Snap'n Build.esm=1
Homemaker.esm=1
Z_Architect.esm=1
FaceLight.esl=1
TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp=1
CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp=1
CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp=1
CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp=1
CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp=1
Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
Remove Interior Fog - All Dlc.esp=1
Modern Firearms.esp=1
Modern Sidearms.esp=1
10mmRevolver.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
Crafting Workbench.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp=1
SnapBeds.esp=1
EyesoftheUniverse.esp=1
Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp=1
Mk14 Redux.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Summer.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp=1
Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp=1
Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp=1
AEWS.esp=1
DnxTattoos.esp=1
MiscHairstyle.esp=1
CROSS_Cybernetics.esp=1
Eli_Apocalypse Attire.esp=1
Personal Jetpack - Crafting Workbenches.esp=1
HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp=1
BrighterSettlementLights.esp=1
FO4Hotkeys.esp=1
mcgFemaleWalk.esp=1
mcgFemaleWalk-Granny-eng.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays.esp=1
BobbleGirl.esp=1
CROSS_Swimsuit.esp=1
CROSS_Jetpack.esp=1
Idiot Slut.esp=1
Smoke-able Cigars.esp=1
el_precursorsuit.esp=1
NanoArmor.esp=1
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp=1
The Eyes of Beauty Looking Stranger.esp=1
Build Two Chair - Full Edition.esp=1
Elegant Hardware.esp=1
Elegant Hardware AWKCR.esp=1
Elegant Hardware DEF_UI.esp=1
rfortaleza2.esp=1
TheKite_MilitiaWoman.esp=1
T60SkullGorilla.esp=1
NCRDesertRavenArmor.esp=1
Mk14_Redux_-_AWKCR_VIS.esp=1
Mk14 Redux - Damage Modifiers.esp=1
WraparoundNVG.esp=1
TheKite_CaitSet.esp=1
TheKite_Caitset_ReplacerAddon.esp=1
TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform.esp=1
TheKite_ScoopDigger.esp=1
MTM-ArmyHelmetBlack.esp=1
Zenna PantyHose.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp=1
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1
SettleObjExpandPack.esp=1
SettleObjExpandPack-AllLightShadowEnabler.esp=1
BetterJunkFences.esp=1
Passthrough.esp=1
Dickys Pinup Outfit.esp=1
Factor.esp=1
AmmoCrafting.esp=1
BallisticWeaverAWKCR-All_in_one.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size.esp=1
EFF.esp=1
WAYN_CompanionTracking.esp=1
WIPAG - Paint Garage - Full (Easy).esp=1
WIPAG - Decal Station.esp=1
WIPAG - Materials Overhaul.esp=1
WIPAG - Model-X.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp=1
FALLOUT4WT.esp=1
Crimsomrider's 1950s Feminine Outfits.esp=1
ModularVaultSuit.esp=1
ModularVaultSuit - ColourSchemesAddon.esp=1
GalactacStandalone.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp=1
ASA.esp=1
EAMR.esp=1
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp=1
4PlaySEU.esp=1
EnclaveX02.esp=1
GunmetalArmorSkins.esp=1
Locksmith.esp=1
move that workbench!.esp=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
AdvBubbleTurretSet-RealNP.esp=1
Bunker1LinkedContainers.esp=1
Ghouls Revamped.esp=1
TransferSettlements.esp=1
Wana_ToddStatue.esp=1
PowerConnector.esp=1
BalconySupports.esp=1
dinoshelf.esp=1
dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp=1
Survival-Tweaks-Without-Chem-Stim-Thirst-0.20.ESP=1
FunctionalDisplays-AID-Vanilla.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL.esp=1
GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp=1
SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp=1
ImmersiveVendors.esp=1
Evan_Modular Kitchen.esp=1
g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp=1
Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp=1
OCDecorator.esp=1
OCDispenser.esp=1
OCDecoratorDLC.esp=1
Thematic and Practical.esp=1
Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp=1
MoreVaultRooms.esp=1
cartman1975_warehouse.esp=1
Snappy_HouseK.esp=1
AWPWandererCoat.esp=1
BoS Medic Battle Suit.esp=1
EvilViking13_WastelandWalls.esp=1
Seiryuu Beam Katana.esp=1
Super Laser.esp=1
MTM-LaserPlasmaWeaponMods.esp=1
Art Gallery.esp=1
ESPExplorerFO4.esp=1
GCM.esp=1
KSHairdos.esp=1
BDO Hair.esp=1
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp=1
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp=1
SanctuaryParts.esp=1
Dongs_Of_Fallout.esp=1
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1
AA Lets Dance.esp=1
Settler Sandbox Overhaul.esp=1
Multiple Floors Sandboxing.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_CAS_CCA_Cost.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_AzarHair.esp=1
ScarfMask.esp=1
AWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.esp=1
WIPAG - Mod Overhaul.esp=1
WIPAG - ArmorKeywords Compatibility Patch.esp=1
NanoArmor_AWKCR_AE.esp=1
rfortaleza2_AE.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_AE.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_VaultSuitDLC_AE.esp=1
Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp=1
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1
TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform_Replacer.esp=1
NewCalibers_ModernFirearms.esp=1
NewCalibers_ModernSidearms.esp=1
Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp=1
MikeMooresMCAM.esp=1
More Smarter Companions Mod.esp=1
Viper6610.esp=1
Back Bay Penthouse.esp=1
Vivid Waters.esp=1
MilitarizedMinutemen.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_CFA.esp=1
Mercenary.esp=1
powerarmort49.esp=1
DualSurvivors.esp=1
ApalLeotard.esp=1
ApalLeotardUnderArmor.esp=1
WoodenPrefabsExtended.esp=1
CraftableAmmo.esp=1
CraftableAmmo_plus.esp=1
CWSS Redux.esp=1
MODGirlyAnimation.esp=1
WattzLaserGun.esp=1
DX_Black_Widow.esp=1
AQUILA.esp=1
G_Survivalist.esp=1
cVc Dead Wasteland.esp=1
BasementLiving.esp=1
TheKite_VTS.esp=1
GetDirty.esp=1
Hoamaii_SleepTogetherAnywhere.esp=1
SSEX.esp=1
OWR_NIN.esp=1
CMPA +300.esp=1
Hellfirenew.esp=1
X03Factions.esp=1
mjp_PTRS41ATR.esp=1
DualSurvivors_additionaldialogue.esp=1
Swingin' Baby!.esp=1
IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp=1
Synth Overhaul.esp=1
Synth Overhaul - Black Patch.esp=1
Synth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_SynthOverhaul.esp=1

FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp=1
four_play.esp=1 <===AAF Compatibility - not FP
AAF_RSE.esp=1
RSE_CWSS_patch.esp=1
AAF_RSE_DLCPatch.esp=1
AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp=1
SavageCabbage_Animations.esp=1
CumNWealth.esp=1
BetterSettlers.esp=1
BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp=1
BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp=1
BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp=1
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
Z_Horizon.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DLC_Automatron.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DLC_FarHarbor.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DLC_Nuka.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop01.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop03.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop02.esp=1
Z_Horizon_Loot_Respawn.esp=1
Z_Horizon_Loot_Respawn_DLC.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DEFUI_MenusOnly.esp=1
Z_Horizon_Patch_ArmorsmithExtended.esp=1
Z_Horizon_Patch_ArmorsmithExtendedDLC.esp=1
Z_Horizon_Patch_Homemaker.esp=1
Z_Extras.esp=1
Z_Horizon_Timescale.esp=1
Z_Horizon_Patch_ScrapEverythingFull.esp=1
The Sanctuary Bridge.esp=1
[777] Sanctuary - Reworked Roads.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
StartMeUp.esp=1

 

 

If anyone is familiar with me from Skyrim you're probably well aware I've never physically finished Skyrim due to being constantly hauled into game restarts cause of my constantly changing mod list. Thankfully I finished Fallout 4 back about a month or so after its original release but with 76 on its way I'm getting back into Fallout 4 specifically mostly for building because being able to create swank crash pads in the new game is gonna be lit obvi so.....I wanted to get stronger on that end of things.

 

That aside I can never play a game without modding the living crap out of it. I remember when I stole my brothers Fallout 2 disc and played it like crazy and the best parts about it were the more adult situations the game presented, I'd never played a game like that in my entire life and it set my expectations for what I expect from an immersive roleplay experience....so here I am, weirdest weirdo on the internet....or so I thought til I found you people. 

 

That aside, I've been watching the RSE thread and seeing a lot of confusion about how load order works to make everything work together and even had an immense amount of trouble myself and it all comes down to an automatic assumption many of us will make if we're familiar with NMM and LOOT from Skyrim and that assumption is simple.

 

"The software understands how to create a proper load order."  and unfortunately in the case of Fallout 4 that is entirely incorrect. I was consistently having mod failures and issues with Horizon and AAF/RSE based integrations and it all stems from having faith in the LOOT system to be able to coherently understand how Fallout 4 formid's work and what has the greatest potential to override what and it appears to have no bloody idea how to deal with any of it.

 

I'm sharing my load order to give people help with understanding the right way to get all of this stuff to function with the maximum amount of stability....and since I tend to run the most ridiculous installs ever, hopefully it will help people that are running much smaller installations that are still having trouble.

 

The basic structure goes like this

 

>MAIN GAME ESMS

>MOD ESM LOAD

-----AAF.ESM

-----Z_Architect.esm 

> ESL FILES

> WEAPON ESPs

> ARMOR ESPs

> HOMESTEAD ESPs

> MINOR ADDITION ESPs

> CHARACTER OVERHAUL ESPs

> MAJOR SYSTEM OVERHAUL ESPs

-----FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp=1
-----four_play.esp=1 <===AAF Compatibility - not FP
-----AAF_RSE.esp=1
-----RSE_CWSS_patch.esp=1
-----AAF_RSE_DLCPatch.esp=1
-----AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp=1
-----SavageCabbage_Animations.esp=1
-----CumNWealth.esp=1
-----Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_DLC_Automatron.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_DLC_FarHarbor.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_DLC_Nuka.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop01.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop03.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop02.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_Loot_Respawn.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_Loot_Respawn_DLC.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_DEFUI_MenusOnly.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_Patch_ArmorsmithExtended.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_Patch_ArmorsmithExtendedDLC.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_Patch_Homemaker.esp=1
-----Z_Extras.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_Timescale.esp=1
-----Z_Horizon_Patch_ScrapEverythingFull.esp=1
-----EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
-----StartMeUp.esp=1

 

By following this structure you can very simply reorder your mod install to ensure the least amount of error my cut and pasted mod list isn't 100% optimal yet but it does all work so I'm loathe to even mess with it at this time. As far as AAF/RSE goes I am able to trigger CSA, abductions and encounters do have a potential to result in pregnancies from Family Planning and I finally got the cum layers from the AAF compatibility patches for Leito and Crazy Animations working as well.

 

So its a 100% functional install with the highest possible load order without merged patches....which to be fair don't work well for FO4 anyways from what I can tell. But basically a lot of the problems I was having were all created by trusting LOOT to sort my load order coherently, and it didn't, it took my Horizon install and put the esp's all over the place, the AAF/RSE related stuff was all wrong, hell it couldn't even seem to put Bobblegirl in the right place and that was constantly getting overwritten by something else.

 

TLDR: DON'T TRUST LOOT TO NOT FUCK UP YOUR MOD ORDER. CAUSE IT WILL. CONSTANTLY. YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO BEST ORDER YOUR MOD INSTALL YOURSELF.

 

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riot_punch

LOOT used to work, but since a couple of months ago, it would orient my plugins in such a ridiculous way. Thanks for the guide, my dude. 

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ArmaSoldier512

Thank you for this it's a very helpful reference!

 

Additionally I see you have a bunch of mods mixed in here or there with animations, is that something I should do as well?

 

This is what mine looks like:

 

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I'd be curious to see if any changes should be made.

 

Full plugin list is here:

 

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*Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
*Arbitration - Resources.esm
*ArmorKeywords.esm
*TrueStormsFO4.esm
*HUDFramework.esm
*Homemaker.esm
*Knockout Framework.esm
*TortureDevices.esm
*Devious Devices.esm
*ConcealedArmor.esm
*AAF.esm
*CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp
*CBBE.esp
*AmmoCrafting.esp
*Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons - Auto Raise from Cover.esp
*Armorsmith Extended.esp
*ConcealedArmor.esp
*Remove Interior Fog - All Dlc.esp
*Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
*DX_Atom_Girl_Outfit.esp
*FM_Badlands_Mashups.esp
*MikeMooresMCAM.esp
*The Lost Vault.esp
*Mercenary.esp
*Minuteman Watchtowers.esp
*BuildingGroundFix.esp
*NVUMP.esp
*ApalCSA.esp
*CigaretteInMouth.esp
*DOOMMerged.esp
*DarkSniperJacket.esp
*Eli Armor Compendium AE VIS Patch.esp
*sarahRageArmor.esp
*WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
*WestTekTacticalOptics-AWKCR.esp
*Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp
*Quieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.esp
*Quieter Settlements - Contraptions.esp
*AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
*HairVariations_YoungAtHeart.esp
*HairVariations_FairyTails.esp
*HairVariations_Elegant.esp
*HairVariations_Sophisticate.esp
*HairVariations_Conversions.esp
*THBrows.esp
*Realistic Crippled Limbs Effects No Autoheal.esp
*ReducedEnergyRecoil.esp
*RichMerchants.esp
*Clothing Of The Commonwealth.esp
*Lazmans_highheels_outfits.esp
*MonnoBikini.esp
*PreWarDressSA.esp
*Armorsmith Siraxx Extended.esp
*CompanionsGoHome_A.esp
*Companion Infinite Ammo.esp
*EveryonesBestFriend.esp
*VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp
*LegendaryModification.esp
*LegendaryModification2LM.esp
*LegendaryModification2LMConcealed.esp
*LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
*LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
*LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp
*LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp
*LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor (2LM).esp
*LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor (2LM Concealed).esp
*BetterGenerators.esp
*OCDecorator.esp
*OCDispenser.esp
*OCDecoratorDLC.esp
*BetterJunkFences.esp
*Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
*LaserBuff.esp
*W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
*5% Fusion Core Drain.esp
*LongerPowerLines3x.esp
*IncreasedSettlerPopulation30.esp
*NoNegativeAffinityNoFucks.esp
*HalfAffinityCooldown.esp
*PersonalSleepingBag.esp
*dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force.esp
*Relax.esp
*WeaponDisarm.esp
*Give Me That Bottle.esp
*LightUp2.0.esp
*BioshockInspiredPowerArmor.esp
*G36Complex.esp
*Infiltrator.esp
*HandmadeAntiMaterielRifle.esp
*mk14.esp
*F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
*ClassicSniper.esp
*Rangergearnew.esp
*LAER.esp
*LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp
*AK74M.esp
*_00Stingray.esp
*AkaWaterWorld.esp
*IMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.esp
*chem redux.esp
*SmallerMoon.esp
*The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
*DCGuardOutfitOverride.esp
*BP VIS AE patch - CROSS_IES.esp
*Lucky Critter.esp
*CleanSettlement.esp
*More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
*SSEX.esp
*SettlementLimitSlashedFarHarbor.esp
*OWR_CraftableDecor.esp
*OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
*EnclaveX02.esp
*Hellfirenew.esp
*Better Power Armor - Extended.esp
*PipBoyShadows.esp
*EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
*Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
*Tactical Flashlights.esp
*Tactical Flashlights - Settings.esp
*NCRMaskLampFix Flashlight AllVer.esp
*X-02 PipboyLight Patch.esp
*VIS-PatchChemReduxWeightless.esp
*DV-Durable Vertibirds.esp
*DV-Armored Pilots.esp
*DV-Vertibird Explosive Minigun.esp
*DarkerNights.esp
*DarkerNights-Radiant.esp
*Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp
*FO4LaserBolts - InstituteGreen.esp
*FO4LaserBolts.esp
*Hunting Revolver_SA.esp
*AQUILA.esp
*OWR.esp
*Crossbow.esp
*ChineseOfficer38 Copy.esp
*ClassicSniperSounds.esp
*ClassicSniperCombatScopes.esp
*Extended weapon mods.esp
*P90.esp
*P90NPC.esp
*Jacket.esp
*BattleRifle.esp
*USP 45.esp
*LeeEnfieldNo4MkI - VIS&AWKCR.esp
*M9A1.esp
*SA80.esp
*Mauser.esp
*mk14-awkcr.esp
*R91AssaultRifle.esp
*Skibs-IF88Redux.esp
*Skibs-WH77Redux.esp
*Skibs-IF54Redux.esp
*ReconPack.esp
*Better Weapon Scrap.esp
*Skibs-WHMk22Redux.esp
*StG44.esp
*M14.esp
*MP153.esp
*SpetnazRifle.esp
*3dscopes-framework.esp
*3dscopes.esp
*3dscopes-g67addon.esp
*3dscopes-m14addon.esp
*3dscopes-Crossbowaddon.esp
*3dscopes-spetnazaddon.esp
*3dscopes-classicsniperaddon.esp
*3dscopes-uspaddon.esp
*3dscopes-AddToSpawnList.esp
*3dscopes-reconpackaddon.esp
*DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp
*1nivDX Courser X-92 Power Suit Male.esp
*Crafting Mastery.esp
*Immersive HUD.esp
*DX_Overboss_Outfit.esp
*DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
*DX Commonwealth Mini Dresses.esp
*DX Adventurer Outfit.esp
*DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
*LooksMenu.esp
*Prisoner Shackles.esp
*Classic Combat Armor.esp
*weaponpatch1.esp
armorpatch1.esp
*armorpatch4.esp
*armorpatch2.esp
*armorpatch3.esp
*Rogg DD Items Manager.esp
*VIO_Strap-On.esp
*FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
*4PlaySEU.esp
*Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp
*FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp
*four_play.esp
*AAF_RSE.esp
*AAF_RSE_DLCPatch.esp
*AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp
*SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
*Rufgt's Animations.esp
*Atomic Lust.esp
*CumNWealth.esp
*Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp

 

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Jay-Omms

Yeah I stopped using LooT years ago :classic_laugh: It sucks... I load them now by category like clothes go together settlement mods go together weapons and so on.;) 

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