boobi3 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Just my opinion, but I think sexlab framework + zaz animations are quite static. It feel like sexout in new vegas before the new animation by Amra72. So is there a new set of animation for sexlab like one for sexoutNG? And how come the brest dosen't move in my game? I installed tbbp and havok hdt, how to make mine look like this? http://www.naughtymachinima.com/video/8605/skyrim-puppetmaster-showcase (just the animations, not clothing and stuff) Thanks ahead of time. Link to comment
artichoketea Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I wouldn't really say that Sexlab animations are completely static - what's really missing are the expressions + lip sync working together. I get what you mean though, unfortunately as far as I know animations that detailed take an incredible amount of work, and as a result limit the number of animations that you can churn out. As for the breast bounce - I don't know what animation that is but it probably comes with TBBP support which not all animations do (correct me if I'm wrong). You'll notice the difference. HDT on the other hand is generally more subtle, although I do believe there are xml files out there that are optimized for more bounce during animations. You might want to take a look at Arrok's animations thread (under Skyrim >Adult Mods > Downloads) for the xml he uses. Link to comment
Ashra XIII Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 You linked the Skyrim version but forgot to provide a link to Sexout for comparison: http://www.naughtymachinima.com/video/8877/fallout-nv-fuck-with-the-king To be honest, when I first saw this post I was thinking, "Why is he pining for Sexout animations? Those were OK for the time, but Skyrim's are way more detailed and realistic!". Then I did a little looking and saw Amra72's stuff and was blown away! Those are really good and now I wanna go back to Fallout NV to try them. In answer to your question, Sexlab is pretty much all their is for sex animations in Skyrim. Those animations have been created by several people and so they vary in quality, but all of the newer ones are really well-done, and I think the animators have come a long way in making things seem as natural as possible. I'm sure someone with more expertise than me (I have zero) could explain why it's so difficult to do these things, but I know it is difficult and it's worth praise that these lovely people make animations for us to enjoy. Link to comment
boobi3 Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 You linked the Skyrim version but forgot to provide a link to Sexout for comparison: http://www.naughtymachinima.com/video/8877/fallout-nv-fuck-with-the-king To be honest, when I first saw this post I was thinking, "Why is he pining for Sexout animations? Those were OK for the time, but Skyrim's are way more detailed and realistic!". Then I did a little looking and saw Amra72's stuff and was blown away! Those are really good and now I wanna go back to Fallout NV to try them. In answer to your question, Sexlab is pretty much all their is for sex animations in Skyrim. Those animations have been created by several people and so they vary in quality, but all of the newer ones are really well-done, and I think the animators have come a long way in making things seem as natural as possible. I'm sure someone with more expertise than me (I have zero) could explain why it's so difficult to do these things, but I know it is difficult and it's worth praise that these lovely people make animations for us to enjoy. My bad I assumed that most played FNV also here is the one for new vegas http://www.naughtymachinima.com/video/8877/fallout-nv-fuck-with-the-king Link to comment
boobi3 Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Oh and don't get me wrong, im not disrespecting the people who created the framwork. I really appriciate what they have done. It just that I was wondering if there was alternative animations cause nothing pop up on google. They have my full respect! Link to comment
D_ManXX2 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 The only once static are the very older once or the Adult prostitution once but you can deactivate them. Newer once from zynch, panic forever, dayelyte or newer animators are not static at all. For breast animations try to switch to HDT it will be far better animated then animator can currently come up with for Bethesda games. Link to comment
boobi3 Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 The only once static are the very older once or the Adult prostitution once but you can deactivate them. Newer once from zynch, panic forever, dayelyte or newer animators are not static at all. For breast animations try to switch to HDT it will be far better animated then animator can currently come up with for Bethesda games. I tried using HDT, but i am not sure of to install it. I do have Havok HDT and HDT extended, but they are simply not moving. Link to comment
eflat0 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 The only once static are the very older once or the Adult prostitution once but you can deactivate them. Newer once from zynch, panic forever, dayelyte or newer animators are not static at all. For breast animations try to switch to HDT it will be far better animated then animator can currently come up with for Bethesda games. I tried using HDT, but i am not sure of to install it. I do have Havok HDT and HDT extended, but they are simply not moving. Am sure is not installed right, Make sure of the skeleton and body... clothes need to support it also. SL ani's do utilize the physics. Check the HDT section here on LL for support. Link to comment
Madmartigan34 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I feel that the AP animations need to be removed from SexLab. Link to comment
lordofthedread Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I feel that the AP animations need to be removed from SexLab. I strongly agree +1 Link to comment
D_ManXX2 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The AP animations needs only small alterations. The bending of the body part needs to be corrected and the feet needs IK applied and the animations themselves will look so much better. But other then that till it is fully fixed it will be better to have it removed, or disabled and game start till the player wants it activated instead of us having to manually deactivate them. Link to comment
shadow866 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I feel that the AP animations need to be removed from SexLab. No point in removing them when you can simply just turn them off your self if you dont like them. The last thing we need is less animations. They are hard enough to come by and hard enough to make. Link to comment
galgat Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 those are very good, I may have to finally get one of the fallOut games. LOL that is some very good animation for in game, sex play. Link to comment
D_ManXX2 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 This is what i mean if you fix AP: APAnimationFixed.7z Just the bending of the body to make it less distorted. But it is no fun task fixing some one else his animations. you need the original blend and in there it will be better suited to fully fix this part. Link to comment
a2b Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I feel that the AP animations need to be removed from SexLab. This, so much. I appreciate how hard creating quality animations is, but the AP anims are so far off the quality of everything else it just makes them stand out massively. Link to comment
Ashra XIII Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 This is what i mean if you fix AP: APAnimationFixed.7z Just the bending of the body to make it less distorted. But it is no fun task fixing some one else his animations. you need the original blend and in there it will be better suited to fully fix this part. Oh my gosh, where can I get this? Is this available to put in-game? It looks so much better than the current animation, even though you can tell just by looking at it, that it is the same one. I so wish someone would do this, but I understand the time investment is probably high just to fix someone else's stuff. For the most part I'd be fine removing all AP animations from Sexlab, because they are just so awful. Link to comment
boo Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Someone should port those NV anims. Link to comment
BringtheNoise Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 For HDT breast and butt movement during sex scenes you will need to do a little work. Requirements: HDT extension for SKSE, SKSE (yeah it's required by HDT so duh), a HDT enabled skeleton (XMPSE 2.0 or better), BBP/TBBP/HDT armors (for when walking around in game), TBBP or HDT female body (both 0 and 1 nifs), and lastly either the HDT Havok item esp or a modified femalhead.nif file that points to the HDT xml in the "data\skse\plugins\" folder. Option 1 (Havok Object ESP): With HDT installed and the HDT esp installed make sure you character has the Havok object item on them when they are nude so the HDT xml's settings with animate the character during the sex act. Option 2 (femalehead.nif) Install HDT, install a female head mesh that points to the HDT xml file (search in the HDT section and you should find a femalhead.nif with the HDT path already setup, I can't remember which thread it's in though). With the female head pointing to the xml file you can have the character completely naked and the HDT physics will still work. For Option 2 you do not need the havok object esp file. But you may have to make a copy of the "hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml" file and rename it to "hdt.xml". I know one of the female head meshes that is available is pointed to "data\skse\plugins\hdt.xml". So just in case copy the long file name xml and rename it to hdt.xml and it should work. 2b. If you are using a custom femalehead.nif then look for instruction on how to add the string to the mesh via nifscope. Again that is in the same thread on the female head nif (The thread is actually about belly distortion during sex scene's).... That should get you sorted on the breast and butt bounce while using sexlab animations. You can also enable the facial animations inside sex labs, some animation will work some do not. They are turned off by default in the latest version (1.59b). I could look up the other threads but I'm being a lazy bastard this morning Link to comment
strikemasterz Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Do you think anybody would start to redo these animations to get less static, since those ones by Amra72 look AWESOME Link to comment
D_ManXX2 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 You only need a good rig then creating new animation should not be far off: NewGoodRigX2.7z Someone made a rig for 3dmax so if i get that one installed, i will see if i can create new once for skyrim. But why are people saying the animations for skyrim are static ?? those from Gone , panicforever are better once i have seen in a long time Zynisch is even making far more advanced animations then any other previous games. Link to comment
FinalCloud Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Seconded, the newer anims in SL are great, and I would much rather have aload more anims of that kind of quality than a few more absolutely perfect ones Link to comment
ratrace Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I feel that the AP animations need to be removed from SexLab. Or replaced by better ones since they don't do SexLab justice. I like the Zyn animations very much, they seem more realistic than the robotic AP animations. But let's be patient. I'm sure there'll be much more to come. Link to comment
Lansganda Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 The breast physics: for me, havoc with XML and sevenbase didn't work. But I am using calientes cbbe Body and with this mod comes bodyslide. In bodislide you can choose and customize different Body types. There are bodymodels with breast physics (bbp) but also breast and butt physics (tbbp I think) and bodyslide is working very good for me. I am using bbp for breast physics. The butt physics are too unrealistic for me. I don't know if bodyslide works with other models than cbbe. sexlab Framework animations: I think, better animations are needing much time so you can't expect better animations in the next weeks or months or maybe years. Link to comment
Acornus Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I would personally like to add to the animations if possible, (I'm surprised at the lack of animations found on certain characters or even monsters like Lurkers and Seekers for example), however, I will be damned if I can even figure out how to import the default skeletons assets correctly in pairs ( or even 2+) and know how to export them correctly with the Havok tools (they literally refused to work for me), so I wouldn't be surprised if that is the part that mainly stumps people. Once that is done, the animations themselves are pretty easy, especially since they are cycles and don't need to be full on extensions of one set piece to another. I'm not joking, if you can poop out the Max files needed, I can do some animations : P Link to comment
judyLS58 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Missing are interesting f/f animations. No strap-ons. Mutual masturbation; better 69; more breast caressing and nipple sucking, biting, and tweaking. Using soul crystals as double-ended dildos. Link to comment
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