unpronounceable Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 It just comes down from the ceiling and crumples upon hitting the floor. I tried disabling my mods but unfortunately, the removal of some of them causes the game to crash. I tried attacking it with spells and the amount of health it has is normal. It just dies for some reason when it touches the floor. The spider dying instantly Spoiler Anyone experienced something like this before? Here is my load order. Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm OSA.esm hdtHighHeel.esm PC Exclusive Voice Path.esm ApachiiHair.esm SexLab.esm notice board.esp RaceCompatibility.esm Heels Sound.esm CreatureFramework.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm SexLabAroused.esm daymoyl.esm SGHairPackBase.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp RelightingSkyrim.esp FS_UltimateAssortment.esp [NINI] Shining Will.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp HDTTESTEarring.esp Serana.esp FNIS.esp Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RelightingSkyrim_DG.esp Tamriel Reloaded Mountains.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp RelightingSkyrim_HF.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp Missives.esp ImmersiveSpells.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Eyes of Aber.esp Knight Plate Armor.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SGEyebrows.esp TKDodge.esp NIOVHH.esp ParticleField.esp HRK ENB DG & DB.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp SGHairMIX2.esp SlaveTats.esp Combat Evolved.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp Real Roads.esp Bijin Wives.esp PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp Facelight.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp RaceCompatibility-Dialog-Legendary.esp Extended Slider Colors.esp RevampedExteriorFog.esp RevertUSKPFortifyRestoration.esp FNIS_PCEA2.esp PeroPeroArmorPack.esp Valerica.esp blessarmors.esp Bijin NPCs.esp XPMSE.esp Elisif Makeover.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp RaceMenu.esp UIExtensions.esp [NINI] Bless MD 0004.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SkyUI.esp RelightingSkyrim_DB.esp Dark Dungeons for Skyrim-Dawnguard-Dragonborn.esp WondersofWeather.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp HighHrothgarWindowGlow.esp Upgrade Leveled Items Spell.esp Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp Proper Aiming.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp HHairstyles.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp VanillaRaces.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp CustomESP.esp PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp UltimateCombat.esp SexLab Extra Voices.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp LegionaryShield.esp AddItemMenu2.esp CustomRaces.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp MiniBikini.esp RSChildren.esp VioLens.esp mintylightningmod.esp SexLabDefeat.esp GoToBed.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SGHair33x144.esp RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp DynDOLOD.esp And my mod list Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. +Overwrite Folder +Custom Mod +JContainers V3.2.6 +Creature Framework 1.1.0-pre2 +SexLab Extra Voices 1.1b +SexLabAroused V28b -SexLab Tools v3.0 +SLAL Animations by Leito v1.6 +MYSLALPACK v12.0 +SLAnimLoader V1.5 +Beast HDT V0.64 +MoreNastyCritters v11.1E +SL Defeat v5.3.5 +Death Alternative - 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Grey Cloud Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 Please don't. I've just had a do with a mechanical dragon outside Mzulft. I didn't know it was there until it fell out of the sky and hit the ground right in front of me. It was definitely a fall and not a landing. It was still alive but it didn't seem to do much by way of defending itself. The world's gone fucking mad.
Guest Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 I think its just the act of physics from Realistic Ragdolls And Force. I have the same issue but idc about it.
srayesmanll Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 Yep, I've seen it. It seems like it's taking fall damage. Nothing else does this that I've seen (although haven't done a full play-through in a while). The only things I have installed that I know touch the spiders is More Nasty Creatures and possibly USLEEP. Doubt it's the physics from realistic ragdols - have had that installed for years but never had the spider issue until recently (last 6 months or so). Sometime it dies, sometimes it's just damaged, then 1-2 hits finishes it.
karlpaws Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 I can concurr on the MNC idea. I've had that spider start dying on me as well, though sometimes it doesn't completely die, but land at very low health. I do have some falling damage tweaks for NPCs and at other times have gone through at quite a high level if I did a lot of other things first, which might increase its HP.
Grey Cloud Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 49 minutes ago, srayesmanll said: The only things I have installed that I know touch the spiders is More Nasty Creatures and possibly USLEEP. 7 minutes ago, karlpaws said: I can concurr on the MNC idea USLEEP has been updated twice in the last few weeks. . . . I've had the opposite problem with Nimhe(?) in Markarth in the last few plays. She stays up in the ceiling and only drops when killed. Maybe I'm not going far enough into the room?
karlpaws Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: USLEEP has been updated twice in the last few weeks. . . . I've had the opposite problem with Nimhe(?) in Markarth in the last few plays. She stays up in the ceiling and only drops when killed. Maybe I'm not going far enough into the room? I update manually so nothing snuck in via USLEEP, though I should probably check and get patches I have had no-drop issues with other spiders as well, might be a trigger box issue but getting shot always does bring them down.
packprof Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 It is both an MNC issue and a trigger box issue. MNC changes the height of the race to 1.0 (base game is 1.9). That causes something to happen in the trigger box as the spider drops down. Resizing the spider race back to at least 1.4 eliminates the problem. I remember seeing something somewhere about this and my own testing has confirmed.
Grey Cloud Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, packprof said: It is both an MNC issue and a trigger box issue. MNC changes the height of the race to 1.0 (base game is 1.9). That causes something to happen in the trigger box as the spider drops down. Resizing the spider race back to at least 1.4 eliminates the problem. I remember seeing something somewhere about this and my own testing has confirmed. Interesting, thanks.
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