Meelis13 Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 As part of my recent reinstall of skyrim and its mods to MO, i have hit another issue- Live another Life isnt working properly. Again, when i used NMM it worked. But the problem is quite odd one- it seems sexlab alternate start mods (using CCAS, immerslave and devious devices addons) somehow prevent original LAL scenarios from happening (and overall causing script bugs, mostly in minor ways (like execution of that guard who let Ulfric go in first time in solitude doesnt happen), but i cant push main quest for example because even if i reach Balgruuf, meeting court wizard doesnt take place) im certain i have mods in correct load order, i also have tried disabling potentially conflicting mods and tried them out one by one. Only common theme is that if any SL alternate start mod is active, LAL bed wont work at original scenarios. Again, i did get it to work in NMM, but not when i moved to MO. Load order (it has few disabled mods as well, mostly cllothes mods (riided esp-s are merged clothing esp-s), with exception of OBIS and SL kidnapped, that still appear in log i use to post load order (but im likely not taking it from correct place)): Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Falskaar.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Unique Flowers & Plants.esm MiasLair.esp Devious Devices - Integration.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm notice board.esp daymoyl.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm DeviousFramework.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Heels Sound.esm AzarHair.esm SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp RelightingSkyrim.esp WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp RLO - Interiors.esp WARZONES - DLC - Assault Attack.esp Helgen Reborn.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp NewMerge.esp Immersive Jewelry.esp ApachiiHairStyles.esp RelightingSkyrim_DG.esp SD Cages.esp RLO - Exteriors.esp RelightingSkyrim_DB.esp xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp Riided.esp ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp everyonecandie.esp OBIS.esp hydra_slavegirls.esp Captured Dreams.esp mercenary war-gear.esp Sekirei.esp townsandcitiesenhanced.esp SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp fallentreebridges.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp RelightingSkyrim_HF.esp SimpleSlavery.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp immersive patrols ii.esp amuletsofthedivines.esp matys medieval knights.esp matys mithril armor enhanced.esp fountain guard armor maty743.esp gondorarmormaty743.esp noldorarmor.esp airrifle.esp assassin yataghan sword.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp gunnormal.esp RwbyMod.esp purewaters.esp hqsnow.esp azarhair.esp elven archer armor.esp steelmaiden.esp mxlevelupallperks.esp BDO -Valkyrie Armor-.esp noble coliseum champion armour.esp Slaverun_Reloaded.esp Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp Devious Cidhna.esp Insects Begone - Spiders and Chaurus.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp whiteruninenhanced.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp riverwoodenhancedplugin.esp ktxcompleteskyforge.esp SL99Exchanger.esp war machine.esp Deviously Enslaved.esp daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp WARZONES - DLC - Assault Attack + Helgen Reborn - Compatibility.esp matys knights of the nine armor 2.1.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp kotn mage.esp Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp UTHERINSPIREDJUDGEMENT.esp craftable musket.esp calyps-razorarmor.esp Erza.esp SkyrimWeatherBeautification.esp FereldanRobes.esp ReinaPrincessAA.esp WonderWomanAA.esp [NINI] Charles Rene.esp Vin Infinity Crown.esp Christie dress.esp [Dint]BDO_MilrenFedora.esp [NINI] Raven Night Watch.esp 1Nun.esp Aion-rose-armor.esp Gantz Outfit.esp BLITZ - Armure des enfers.esp Honoka Costume.esp Honoka Officer Suit.esp Honoka Rodeo Time.esp Knight's Steel Armor.esp Summer49.esp [NINI] Bless MD 0004.esp [NINI] Bless RB 3004.esp riided2.esp _BDO Anemos.esp Blue&White.esp bdo1.esp NewmillerMagicianDress.esp [GLT]MerryChristmas.esp NS_NobleDress.esp NoblesseOblige.esp Tecmo 50th Anniversary DLC.esp [GLT]BDO Epheria Marine Sailor.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Arabian Knights.esp Bless_Tyelle.esp NN_ElvishDresses.esp YgritteRedone.esp VSCiriProjectTW3.esp Syanna+Henrietta.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Artificial Academy.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenu2.esp Avatar Korra.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp notice board - dragonborn patch.esp trident spear.esp ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp gun.esp rifle.esp Santa Girl 2017.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp BTRH_Waifu.esp Bijin Wives.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Brows.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp CinematicFireFX.esp LunariWarriors.esp Fachry Standalone Follower Chun li.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp TrueStorms.esp TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp Combat Evolved.esp More Hair Colors Dawnguard.esp DaenerysTargaryen.esp DEM Victorian.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp DeviousToys.esp DfwSupport.esp linglingFS0002.esp Ezia.esp Eyes of Aber.esp Facelight.esp NewmillerFancySkirtTartOutf.esp Fitness Outfit OE.esp SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp FNIS.esp FNISSexyMove.esp FreckleMania.esp GagSFX.esp Harley Quinn.esp Rodeo Set.esp Greek_Armor.esp HentaiLoadScreens.esp HHairstyles.esp Insects Begone - Dawnguard - Spiders and Chaurus.esp Insects Begone - DragonBorn Spiders and Ashoppers.esp Insects Begone - Hearthfires.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp yurica_kimono.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp LaraCroftDefaultHair.esp mintylightningmod.esp MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp MeridaHair.esp MM shirt.esp yurica_musketeer [HDT].esp NoMoreUglyVampireLord.esp NewmDragoNecklace2.esp KS Hairdo's.esp OBISDB.esp NewmillerPiercings2.esp NewmillerPiercings3.esp Fachry Raven the Titan Follower.esp Realistic Haircolors.esp RLO - Effects.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp elewin sunglasses.esp Samus Suit.esp Raxys_SansaStarkFollower.esp seducesets.esp SexLab Submit.esp SGEyebrows.esp kuerteeSimpleMultipleFollowers.esp NewmShortDress2.esp SkyDreamMaidens.esp Simple Slavery Defeat.esp SkyrimBound.esp SkyUI.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp KomAnimObjects.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SlaveTats.esp Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp Fachry Starfire the Titan.esp Street Fighter 5 Cammy Follower.esp Fachry ZONE-tan Follower.esp zzArmormashups.esp Tes4mod.esp XPMSE.esp College of Winterhold NPC Impovement.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp VarAttre.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp NewmillerWeirdSkirt2.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp WetFunction.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp ccas_starts.esp Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp ImmerSlave.esp Again, SL alternate start LAL additions work, whereas normal LAL scenarios just fade black and then fade back in in same dungeon with clothes gone and statue as well
Nazzzgul666 Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 Did you try just to reinstall LAL? Sounds like either those scenarios are overwritten or deleted or not properly installed, fade to black and back in cell is the "fail safe" concept of LAL when a scenario can't be found, might happen for a few CCAS scenarios too if missing requirements. If reinstall doesn't help, do you have all of those addons installed at once? Chances are they aren't compatible with each other, i'd suggest using only one of them at once.
Meelis13 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Posted March 16, 2018 yes, i tried reinstalling LAL. It basically occurs only when anything other than vanilla LAL is installed (which makes it kinda boring, though still better than vanilla)- i tried it every way i can think of- just LAL, scenarios linked on its nexus page (same issue as LL), LL scenarios. Though one thing worth noting- LL scenarios work immideatly, whereas scenarios linked on LAL page fade back in in clothes and then send you on your way, so there is slight difference. Again, i remember getting it working perfectly on NMM with same setup EDIT! tought about something else that might be cause of all this- CBBE. I cant remember how i got it working with NMM (because i do recall having exact same issue way back when), but i do remember CBBE being the key there, as LAL author did not use custom bodies, thus its less compactible with CBBE and such. Will keep trying, but as im new to MO, i could use extra help
valcon767 Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 ok some possibly (probably) dumb questions (if you are sure you have done it right just ignore the question) as i use MO and CBBE (Cosio now) and have not run into this problem before i will try to help 1 - which version of AS-LAL are you using? 2 - you are starting a new game (from main menu, not trying from a previous save)?? 3 - when you re-installed AS-LAL, you did install it (through MO) from the downloaded file?? (not a file copied from your previous NMM installation) 4 - the Helgen Reborn mod, is that the one that the mod author specifically states to not activate until after Helgen is cleared and resets to have bandits in it?? 5 - as far as you know you have no other mods that alter the AS-LAL starting cell (it is in the Abandoned Prison)?? 6 - as far as you know you have no other mods that affect talking activators?? 7 - as far as you know you do not have any other mods (not counting AS-LAL, and its addons) that affect the quests "Unbound" and "Before the Storm"? 8 - when in the AS-LAL starting cell you have initialized Sexlab (and all you other mods), so that you are ready to play the game then made a hard save, then loaded that hard save (and waited out notifications) before trying the statue? 9 - your left pane (mod list) and right pane (plugin order) of MO are as close to the same as you can get them?? they will not be a perfect match but should be close. i know some of those will (probably) be dumb questions, but i am just trying to make sure nothing easy was missed.
Meelis13 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Posted March 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, valcon767 said: ok some possibly (probably) dumb questions (if you are sure you have done it right just ignore the question) as i use MO and CBBE (Cosio now) and have not run into this problem before i will try to help 1 - which version of AS-LAL are you using? 2 - you are starting a new game (from main menu, not trying from a previous save)?? 3 - when you re-installed AS-LAL, you did install it (through MO) from the downloaded file?? (not a file copied from your previous NMM installation) 4 - the Helgen Reborn mod, is that the one that the mod author specifically states to not activate until after Helgen is cleared and resets to have bandits in it?? 5 - as far as you know you have no other mods that alter the AS-LAL starting cell (it is in the Abandoned Prison)?? 6 - as far as you know you have no other mods that affect talking activators?? 7 - as far as you know you do not have any other mods (not counting AS-LAL, and its addons) that affect the quests "Unbound" and "Before the Storm"? 8 - when in the AS-LAL starting cell you have initialized Sexlab (and all you other mods), so that you are ready to play the game then made a hard save, then loaded that hard save (and waited out notifications) before trying the statue? 9 - your left pane (mod list) and right pane (plugin order) of MO are as close to the same as you can get them?? they will not be a perfect match but should be close. i know some of those will (probably) be dumb questions, but i am just trying to make sure nothing easy was missed. I know you said to ignore it if i have done those, but just for sakes of clarity (and speed things up), i will answer. Besides, it never hurts to check easy stuff- i know i have missed few such things in past 1. the latest one thats available on nexus (and yes, for oldrim) 2. yes 3. through MO 4. Not exactly. FAQ refers to older version of Helgen Reborn and even then it mentions only vanilla start (which im avoiding anyways)- its specified even in FAQ itself that new version doesnt have that issue. had it working with NMM though. But i suppose disabling it for a try wont hurt (though im guessing i did that already) 5. im 100 percent certain that there aint any such mods. I am really careful about that 6. Well, i suppose fus ro doh does alffect them? But they have worked together in past without issues. As for others, im pretty sure that not, but i could be mistaken. But wouldnt that affect entire thing instead just vanilla scenarios to point where i cant use bed properly for any scenario? 7. yes 8. have tried that as well 9. Isnt left side supposed to be pretty much opposite of right side? In any case, i do seem to have bit odd left side, but it should be within acceptable deviations
valcon767 Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 ok well that was all the easy stuff the thing with MO is that left pane and right pane should be roughly the same when you are looking at them in MO, but when you look at the text files MO produces one of them is printed in reverse (modlist.txt is printed from bottom to top). the reason i asked about talking activators is that another mod has an issue with some (but not all, and it varies by individual load orders also). as this issue is a bit out of the ordinary i guess my next step is going to be to download the latest version (i think it is 1 or 2 numbers higher than mine) and test myself. that way i can at least say whether the issue is specific to your setup or not. (should be able to do in a day or so) in the meantime there are 2 things you could do to try to solve it 1 - try using a older version (if you have one) that you know worked 2 - try disabling other mods (to see if you find a conflict) i will repost here when i know if the newest version works for me or not.
Meelis13 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Posted March 17, 2018 Thank you, will try doing that. Will probably start with script-heavy mods or mods i installed later
valcon767 Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 ok i installed the new version and ran a fast test for the test i started new game with a female nord (was checking a pebcak issue, and it that one was operator idiocy), let notifications finish, started Sexlab, registered ZAP animations, made a hard save, loaded that save, waited out second set of notifications (this lets DDI and any other mods that need a game load finish), reset creature framework and waited that out (to be sure all mods were done initializing), made a new hard save, loaded that new save, waited game start notifications out, started game (4 default AS=LAL, 3 added to basic AS-LAL, and 4 CCAS starts). all ran fine lead me to believe it is one of 4 things causing your issue (least likely to most likely) 1 - trying to upgrade without starting a new game (you said this is not it and i will take your word here) 2 - corrupt download of AS-LAL (it happens but is unlikely) 3 - made a hard save to fast (did not wait long enough for all mods to finish initializing) 4 - mod conflict (most likely) i have discounted #1 as the problem as you started a new game already. if it was #3 you would have it working already (during testing you would have figured that one out) there are 2 methods to determine if it is #2 : A - redownload and install the new download (faster way to check) B - start a new game with a minimal install (just needed files only to test out the extra starts - and if you try this method make a backup of your profile BEFORE you do it, so you can easily restore it for testing #4) most likely cause is #4 (mod conflict) if it is a mod conflict you will have to find it by trial and elimination method (remove a few mods and try again until you find which mod or mods are causing the problem) On 3/14/2018 at 7:36 AM, Meelis13 said: Hide contents Falskaar.esm Unique Flowers & Plants.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm notice board.esp daymoyl.esm AzarHair.esm Cutting Room Floor.esp RelightingSkyrim.esp WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp RLO - Interiors.esp WARZONES - DLC - Assault Attack.esp Helgen Reborn.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp NewMerge.esp RelightingSkyrim_DG.esp RLO - Exteriors.esp RelightingSkyrim_DB.esp Riided.esp ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp everyonecandie.esp OBIS.esp mercenary war-gear.esp Sekirei.esp townsandcitiesenhanced.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp fallentreebridges.esp RelightingSkyrim_HF.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp immersive patrols ii.esp amuletsofthedivines.esp matys medieval knights.esp matys mithril armor enhanced.esp fountain guard armor maty743.esp gondorarmormaty743.esp noldorarmor.esp airrifle.esp assassin yataghan sword.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp gunnormal.esp RwbyMod.esp purewaters.esp hqsnow.esp azarhair.esp elven archer armor.esp steelmaiden.esp mxlevelupallperks.esp BDO -Valkyrie Armor-.esp noble coliseum champion armour.esp Insects Begone - Spiders and Chaurus.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp whiteruninenhanced.esp riverwoodenhancedplugin.esp ktxcompleteskyforge.esp SL99Exchanger.esp war machine.esp daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp WARZONES - DLC - Assault Attack + Helgen Reborn - Compatibility.esp matys knights of the nine armor 2.1.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp kotn mage.esp Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp UTHERINSPIREDJUDGEMENT.esp craftable musket.esp calyps-razorarmor.esp Erza.esp SkyrimWeatherBeautification.esp FereldanRobes.esp ReinaPrincessAA.esp WonderWomanAA.esp [NINI] Charles Rene.esp Vin Infinity Crown.esp Christie dress.esp [Dint]BDO_MilrenFedora.esp [NINI] Raven Night Watch.esp 1Nun.esp Aion-rose-armor.esp Gantz Outfit.esp BLITZ - Armure des enfers.esp Honoka Costume.esp Honoka Officer Suit.esp Honoka Rodeo Time.esp Knight's Steel Armor.esp Summer49.esp [NINI] Bless MD 0004.esp [NINI] Bless RB 3004.esp riided2.esp _BDO Anemos.esp Blue&White.esp bdo1.esp NewmillerMagicianDress.esp [GLT]MerryChristmas.esp NS_NobleDress.esp NoblesseOblige.esp Tecmo 50th Anniversary DLC.esp [GLT]BDO Epheria Marine Sailor.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Arabian Knights.esp Bless_Tyelle.esp NN_ElvishDresses.esp YgritteRedone.esp VSCiriProjectTW3.esp Syanna+Henrietta.esp Artificial Academy.esp AddItemMenu2.esp Avatar Korra.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp notice board - dragonborn patch.esp trident spear.esp ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp gun.esp rifle.esp Santa Girl 2017.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp CinematicFireFX.esp LunariWarriors.esp Fachry Standalone Follower Chun li.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp TrueStorms.esp TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp Combat Evolved.esp More Hair Colors Dawnguard.esp DaenerysTargaryen.esp linglingFS0002.esp Ezia.esp Facelight.esp NewmillerFancySkirtTartOutf.esp Fitness Outfit OE.esp SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp FNISSexyMove.esp FreckleMania.esp Harley Quinn.esp Rodeo Set.esp Greek_Armor.esp HHairstyles.esp Insects Begone - Dawnguard - Spiders and Chaurus.esp Insects Begone - DragonBorn Spiders and Ashoppers.esp Insects Begone - Hearthfires.esp yurica_kimono.esp LaraCroftDefaultHair.esp mintylightningmod.esp MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp MeridaHair.esp MM shirt.esp yurica_musketeer [HDT].esp NoMoreUglyVampireLord.esp NewmDragoNecklace2.esp OBISDB.esp Fachry Raven the Titan Follower.esp Realistic Haircolors.esp RLO - Effects.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp elewin sunglasses.esp Samus Suit.esp Raxys_SansaStarkFollower.esp seducesets.esp kuerteeSimpleMultipleFollowers.esp NewmShortDress2.esp SkyDreamMaidens.esp SkyrimBound.esp SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp Fachry Starfire the Titan.esp Street Fighter 5 Cammy Follower.esp Fachry ZONE-tan Follower.esp zzArmormashups.esp Tes4mod.esp College of Winterhold NPC Impovement.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp VarAttre.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp NewmillerWeirdSkirt2.esp Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp WetFunction.esp i qouted your posted load order and removed all the mods i have installed now (or last new game start) to hopefully help narrow down which mod it is (probably) a conflict with. i left all the mods i do not have installed (or am not sure if i have them installed). it sounds like you are running into a non-obvious conflict (something a mod is doing in the background that as a player you do not see at all, but is causing the conflict with AS-LAL). the only mod i know of with this kind of conflict you do not have installed (it casues a CTD on using the statue actually, Devious Followers Beta). i would suggest deactivating 5-10 mods at a time and trying again until you find the problem mod. i would start with mods that modify statues, daedric quests, followers first (they are the most likely culprits). when you remove a mod (or mods) and it still does not work, do not put them back in until you have it working. and as much as i hate to say this, it is going to be a trial and error method of finding which mod is causing the issue. p.s. i just noticed something, looking back at your posted load order you have Sexlab-StoriesDevious.esp installed but i did not see Sexlab Stories installed, and if i remember right Stories Devious needs Stories installed to work correctly (might be part of the problem, might not).
Grey Cloud Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 SL Stories Devious requires SL Stories, SL Aroused, Zaz Animation Pack and Devious Devices Integration.
Meelis13 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Posted March 19, 2018 On 18.3.2018 at 12:24 AM, valcon767 said: ok i installed the new version and ran a fast test for the test i started new game with a female nord (was checking a pebcak issue, and it that one was operator idiocy), let notifications finish, started Sexlab, registered ZAP animations, made a hard save, loaded that save, waited out second set of notifications (this lets DDI and any other mods that need a game load finish), reset creature framework and waited that out (to be sure all mods were done initializing), made a new hard save, loaded that new save, waited game start notifications out, started game (4 default AS=LAL, 3 added to basic AS-LAL, and 4 CCAS starts). all ran fine lead me to believe it is one of 4 things causing your issue (least likely to most likely) 1 - trying to upgrade without starting a new game (you said this is not it and i will take your word here) 2 - corrupt download of AS-LAL (it happens but is unlikely) 3 - made a hard save to fast (did not wait long enough for all mods to finish initializing) 4 - mod conflict (most likely) i have discounted #1 as the problem as you started a new game already. if it was #3 you would have it working already (during testing you would have figured that one out) there are 2 methods to determine if it is #2 : A - redownload and install the new download (faster way to check) B - start a new game with a minimal install (just needed files only to test out the extra starts - and if you try this method make a backup of your profile BEFORE you do it, so you can easily restore it for testing #4) most likely cause is #4 (mod conflict) if it is a mod conflict you will have to find it by trial and elimination method (remove a few mods and try again until you find which mod or mods are causing the problem) i qouted your posted load order and removed all the mods i have installed now (or last new game start) to hopefully help narrow down which mod it is (probably) a conflict with. i left all the mods i do not have installed (or am not sure if i have them installed). it sounds like you are running into a non-obvious conflict (something a mod is doing in the background that as a player you do not see at all, but is causing the conflict with AS-LAL). the only mod i know of with this kind of conflict you do not have installed (it casues a CTD on using the statue actually, Devious Followers Beta). i would suggest deactivating 5-10 mods at a time and trying again until you find the problem mod. i would start with mods that modify statues, daedric quests, followers first (they are the most likely culprits). when you remove a mod (or mods) and it still does not work, do not put them back in until you have it working. and as much as i hate to say this, it is going to be a trial and error method of finding which mod is causing the issue. p.s. i just noticed something, looking back at your posted load order you have Sexlab-StoriesDevious.esp installed but i did not see Sexlab Stories installed, and if i remember right Stories Devious needs Stories installed to work correctly (might be part of the problem, might not). Thank you for all that- will try to make sure what mod caused this.
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