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Hi everybody, after doing a major overhaul to the mods that I've been using and trying to get back into Skyrim, I was hoping I could check the more veteran users on Loverslab to see if they could take a look at my mod priority order and Load Order as per Mod Organizer to make sure I have everything lined up properly.  I've been dealing with a few difficulties recently and have decided to go over all of my mods, check if they're the most recent builds, etc. and try to figure out which ones I don't really need anymore, but some of this is beyond my ken.  Any suggestions or advice as to which mods are unnecessary, or which mods might be causing CTD or Script Conflicts, or what order they should be put in would all be really appreciated!!

 

MO Mod Load Order

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HighResTexturePack03
HighResTexturePack02
HighResTexturePack01
BarenziahQuestMarkers v1
Bounty Quest Fix
BR HoodCirclets
CLoaks of Skyrim
DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers v1
Faction Armor
Fuz Ro Doh
GreenWaterFix v2 Compatible
Guard Dialogue Overhaul
hdtHighHeelbeta0
Hoodless Archmage Robes
Inconsequential NPCs 1.9e
Insects Begone V31
JContainers
Left Hand Rings
MacKom Lore Styles hair mod
NetImmerse Override v 3-4
noRadientJEDragonborn SDMC
PapyrusUtil v31
Realistic Force
Dawnguard
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
Sexlab Creature Animations v 160
Showers in Inns
Windcallers Pass
Hearthfires
Dragonborn
PapyrusUtil- Modders Scripting Utility Functions
Apachii SkyHair
Mfg Console
Drink Eat Sleep Bathe
Baths for Hearthfire Homes
Longhair for Female Khajiits
Sexlab Framework v162 Full
Campire- Complete Camping System
I'll Take the Display Model
SkyUI
Female Facial Animation
Fores New Idles in Skyrim
FNIS Creature Pack
Ultimate Combat
A Matter of Time- HUD Clock Widget
Diverse Guards Skyrim
Bandolier- Bags and Pouches
Unique Uniques
Helgen Reborn
RS Children Overhaul
Immersive Weapons
Bijin Wives
Bijin Warmaidens
Expanded Towns and Cities
Follower Commentary Overhaul
Feminine Females
Bijin NPCs
Immersive Armors
Extensible Follower Framework
UIExtensions v1-2
Brawl Bugs- Compatibility Edition
Frostfall
Seranaholic
Racemenu
Beautiful Danica- Healer Follower
Michiko- Samurai Follower
Better Males
Sexlab Aroused V28b
SpousesEnhanced
Quest Eraser
Brynjolf and Vex Thieves Guild Followers
xazPrisonOverhaul
Civil War Overhaul
When Vampires Attack
Run For Your LIves
Karliah as Follower
House of Horrors Alternate Ending
Alternate Start- Live Another Life
HDT Physics Extensions
HDT Invisibility Fix 011 beta
Lovely Hairstyles
CBBE
SG Female Textures Renewal
ZazAnimation Pack V7
Zaz Craft 2
Bodyslide and Outfit Studio
SLDialogues 30
SLAnimLoader
FunnyBiznessAnimationPack
SexLabTools v3.0
Devious Devices Assets
Devious Devices Expansion
Devious Devices Integration
Devious Equip
Captured Dreams
Devious Devices for the Masses
XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended
Sanguines Debauchery Plus 36a
SlaveTrainer

 

Plugin Order as Organized By Loot:

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     hdtHighHeel.esm
  7  7     SexLab.esm
  8  8     Campfire.esm
  9  9     RSkyrimChildren.esm
 10  a     ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
 11  b     EFFCore.esm
 12  c     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 13  d     ApachiiHair.esm
 14  e     SexLabAroused.esm
 15  f     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 16 10     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 17 11     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 18 12     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
           HighResTexturePack01.esp
           HighResTexturePack02.esp
           HighResTexturePack03.esp
 19 13     SkyUI.esp
 20 14     ETaC - Complete.esp
 21 15     Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
 22 16     Helgen Reborn.esp
 23 17     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 24 18     Brawl Bugs CE.esp
 25 19     Bounty Quest Fix.esp
 26 1a     xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
 27 1b     Civil War Overhaul.esp
 28 1c     Feminine Females.esp
 29 1d     FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
 30 1e     UIExtensions.esp
 31 1f     BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
 32 20     noRadiantJE.esp
 33 21     GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp
 34 22     MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp
 35 23     When Vampires Attack.esp
 36 24     Insects Begone - DragonBorn Spiders and Ashoppers.esp
 37 25     Insects Begone - Hearthfires.esp
           FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp
           FtM_3 - OBIS.esp
 38 26     Drink Eat Sleep.esp
 39 27     Immersive Weapons.esp
 40 28     LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
 41 29     LeftHandRings.esp
 42 2a     BR_HoodCirclets.esp
 43 2b     Captured Dreams.esp
 44 2c     Immersive Whiterun.esp
 45 2d     Immersive Solstheim.esp
 46 2e     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 47 2f     Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 48 30     _admod.esp
 49 31     Hoodless Archmage Robes.esp
 50 32     Bijin Warmaidens.esp
 51 33     Inconsequential NPCs.esp
 52 34     Run For Your Lives.esp
 53 35     FtM_3.esp
           FtM_3 - CCOR.esp
 54 36     Cloaks.esp
 55 37     Nightingale Hall.esp
 56 38     EFFDialogue.esp
 57 39     sanguinesDebauchery.esp
 58 3a     ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
 59 3b     Frostfall.esp
 60 3c     SexLab_Dialogues.esp
 61 3d     Insects Begone - Spiders and Chaurus.esp
 62 3e     Insects Begone - Dawnguard - Spiders and Chaurus.esp
 63 3f     ShowersInInns.esp
 64 40     SpousesEnhanced.esp
 65 41     DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp
 66 42     LakeviewBathhouse.esp
 67 43     WinstadBathhouse.esp
 68 44     HeljarchenBathhouse.esp
 69 45     PP_WindcallerPass.esp
 70 46     GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp
 71 47     HouseOfHorrorsAlternateEnding.esp
 72 48     mmkhajiithair11.esp
 73 49     FNIS.esp
 74 4a     UltimateCombat.esp
 75 4b     AMatterOfTime.esp
 76 4c     SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp
 77 4d     Dr_Bandolier.esp
 78 4e     Unique Uniques.esp
 79 4f     Bijin Wives.esp
 80 50     Drink Eat Sleep Addon - Dragonborn.esp
 81 51     Drink Eat Sleep Addon - Hearthfire.esp
 82 52     Serana.esp
 83 53     DanicaTheHealer.esp
 84 54     Michiko.esp
 85 55     Quest Eraser.esp
 86 56     Brynjolf & Vex Followers.esp
 87 57     Bijin NPCs.esp
 88 58     LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
 89 59     RSChildren.esp
 90 5a     RaceMenu.esp
 91 5b     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 92 5c     SLAnimLoader.esp
 93 5d     Devious Devices - Equip.esp
 94 5e     zaz-craft.esp
 95 5f     dcc-dm2.esp
 96 60     SexLabTools.esp
 97 61     dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
 98 62     XPMSE.esp
 99 63     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
100 64     SlaveTrainer.esp

 

 

I'm mostly aiming to just play the game with combat, NPC tweaks while also allowing for enslavement of my PC and of defeated NPC's.

Thank you very much in advance to any who have any tips or suggestions!

 

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3 minutes ago, luc87 said:

This is a nice post!

 

I follow and try to learn something.

 

I'm still at the beginning and I try to make the adult mods work better with NMM but I think I'll have to learn how to use Mod Organizer and Loot :,)

Cheers ^^.  Mod Organizer I have to say really is the best.  With Loot, it can help you find solutions to your problems 9/10

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Hey, surely use loot for the load order.Also if you want use wryebash and mergeplugins to minimize the number of the esp, if you get near the limit.
Also use save game script cleaner, specially if you unistall a mod.
And a mod i suggest using cause it reduced my ctd's a lot, ssme skyrim start up memory editor.

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18 hours ago, Gimlord said:

Hey, surely use loot for the load order.Also if you want use wryebash and mergeplugins to minimize the number of the esp, if you get near the limit.
Also use save game script cleaner, specially if you unistall a mod.
And a mod i suggest using cause it reduced my ctd's a lot, ssme skyrim start up memory editor.

Thankfully I'm doing okay ESP wise, and I have Game script cleaner.  SSME SKyrim? I'll check that out, thank you for the suggestion.

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On 2/6/2018 at 2:27 AM, caocaothedeciever said:

Hi everybody, after doing a major overhaul to the mods that I've been using and trying to get back into Skyrim, I was hoping I could check the more veteran users on Loverslab to see if they could take a look at my mod priority order and Load Order as per Mod Organizer to make sure I have everything lined up properly.  I've been dealing with a few difficulties recently and have decided to go over all of my mods, check if they're the most recent builds, etc. and try to figure out which ones I don't really need anymore, but some of this is beyond my ken.  Any suggestions or advice as to which mods are unnecessary, or which mods might be causing CTD or Script Conflicts, or what order they should be put in would all be really appreciated!!

 

MO Mod Load Order

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HighResTexturePack03
HighResTexturePack02
HighResTexturePack01
BarenziahQuestMarkers v1
Bounty Quest Fix
BR HoodCirclets
CLoaks of Skyrim
DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers v1
Faction Armor
Fuz Ro Doh
GreenWaterFix v2 Compatible
Guard Dialogue Overhaul
hdtHighHeelbeta0
Hoodless Archmage Robes
Inconsequential NPCs 1.9e
Insects Begone V31
JContainers check to make sure you have latest version and that no mod provided copy overwrites it (i have this just above XPMSE)
Left Hand Rings
MacKom Lore Styles hair mod
NetImmerse Override v 3-4
noRadientJEDragonborn SDMC
PapyrusUtil v31 same as JContainers
Realistic Force
Dawnguard
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
Sexlab Creature Animations v 160
Showers in Inns
Windcallers Pass
Hearthfires
Dragonborn
PapyrusUtil- Modders Scripting Utility Functions
Apachii SkyHair
Mfg Console
Drink Eat Sleep Bathe
Baths for Hearthfire Homes
Longhair for Female Khajiits
Sexlab Framework v162 Full
Campire- Complete Camping System
I'll Take the Display Model
SkyUI
Female Facial Animation
Fores New Idles in Skyrim
FNIS Creature Pack
Ultimate Combat
A Matter of Time- HUD Clock Widget
Diverse Guards Skyrim
Bandolier- Bags and Pouches
Unique Uniques
Helgen Reborn
RS Children Overhaul
Immersive Weapons
Bijin Wives
Bijin Warmaidens
Expanded Towns and Cities
Follower Commentary Overhaul
Feminine Females
Bijin NPCs
Immersive Armors
Extensible Follower Framework
UIExtensions v1-2 same as JConstainers again
Brawl Bugs- Compatibility Edition
Frostfall
Seranaholic
Racemenu
Beautiful Danica- Healer Follower
Michiko- Samurai Follower
Better Males
Sexlab Aroused V28b 
SpousesEnhanced
Quest Eraser
Brynjolf and Vex Thieves Guild Followers
xazPrisonOverhaul
Civil War Overhaul
When Vampires Attack
Run For Your LIves
Karliah as Follower
House of Horrors Alternate Ending
Alternate Start- Live Another Life
HDT Physics Extensions
HDT Invisibility Fix 011 beta
Lovely Hairstyles
CBBE
SG Female Textures Renewal
ZazAnimation Pack V7
Zaz Craft 2
Bodyslide and Outfit Studio
SLDialogues 30
SLAnimLoader
FunnyBiznessAnimationPack
SexLabTools v3.0
Devious Devices Assets
Devious Devices Expansion
Devious Devices Integration
Devious Equip
Captured Dreams
Devious Devices for the Masses
XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended
Sanguines Debauchery Plus 36a
SlaveTrainer

 

Plugin Order as Organized By Loot:

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     hdtHighHeel.esm
  7  7     SexLab.esm
  8  8     Campfire.esm
  9  9     RSkyrimChildren.esm
 10  a     ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
 11  b     EFFCore.esm
 12  c     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 13  d     ApachiiHair.esm
 14  e     SexLabAroused.esm
 15  f     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 16 10     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 17 11     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 18 12     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
           HighResTexturePack01.esp
           HighResTexturePack02.esp
           HighResTexturePack03.esp
 19 13     SkyUI.esp
 20 14     ETaC - Complete.esp
 21 15     Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
 22 16     Helgen Reborn.esp this one (if i remember right) should not be activated until after Helgen resets (4-5 days after completing "After the Storm")

                                          if you do this you will need to use something as a "placeholder" so all following mods will not have their load order changed.
 23 17     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 24 18     Brawl Bugs CE.esp
 25 19     Bounty Quest Fix.esp
 26 1a     xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
 27 1b     Civil War Overhaul.esp
 28 1c     Feminine Females.esp
 29 1d     FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
 30 1e     UIExtensions.esp
 31 1f     BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
 32 20     noRadiantJE.esp
 33 21     GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp
 34 22     MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp
 35 23     When Vampires Attack.esp
 36 24     Insects Begone - DragonBorn Spiders and Ashoppers.esp see below
 37 25     Insects Begone - Hearthfires.esp see below
           FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp
           FtM_3 - OBIS.esp
 38 26     Drink Eat Sleep.esp
 39 27     Immersive Weapons.esp
 40 28     LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp see below
 41 29     LeftHandRings.esp see below
 42 2a     BR_HoodCirclets.esp
 43 2b     Captured Dreams.esp
 44 2c     Immersive Whiterun.esp
 45 2d     Immersive Solstheim.esp
 46 2e     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 47 2f     Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 48 30     _admod.esp
 49 31     Hoodless Archmage Robes.esp
 50 32     Bijin Warmaidens.esp
 51 33     Inconsequential NPCs.esp
 52 34     Run For Your Lives.esp
 53 35     FtM_3.esp
           FtM_3 - CCOR.esp
 54 36     Cloaks.esp
 55 37     Nightingale Hall.esp
 56 38     EFFDialogue.esp
 57 39     sanguinesDebauchery.esp
 58 3a     ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
 59 3b     Frostfall.esp
 60 3c     SexLab_Dialogues.esp
 61 3d     Insects Begone - Spiders and Chaurus.esp see below
 62 3e     Insects Begone - Dawnguard - Spiders and Chaurus.esp see below
 63 3f     ShowersInInns.esp
 64 40     SpousesEnhanced.esp
 65 41     DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp
 66 42     LakeviewBathhouse.esp
 67 43     WinstadBathhouse.esp
 68 44     HeljarchenBathhouse.esp
 69 45     PP_WindcallerPass.esp
 70 46     GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp
 71 47     HouseOfHorrorsAlternateEnding.esp
 72 48     mmkhajiithair11.esp
 73 49     FNIS.esp
 74 4a     UltimateCombat.esp
 75 4b     AMatterOfTime.esp
 76 4c     SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp
 77 4d     Dr_Bandolier.esp
 78 4e     Unique Uniques.esp
 79 4f     Bijin Wives.esp
 80 50     Drink Eat Sleep Addon - Dragonborn.esp
 81 51     Drink Eat Sleep Addon - Hearthfire.esp
 82 52     Serana.esp
 83 53     DanicaTheHealer.esp
 84 54     Michiko.esp
 85 55     Quest Eraser.esp
 86 56     Brynjolf & Vex Followers.esp
 87 57     Bijin NPCs.esp
 88 58     LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
 89 59     RSChildren.esp
 90 5a     RaceMenu.esp
 91 5b     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 92 5c     SLAnimLoader.esp
 93 5d     Devious Devices - Equip.esp
 94 5e     zaz-craft.esp
 95 5f     dcc-dm2.esp
 96 60     SexLabTools.esp
 97 61     dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
 98 62     XPMSE.esp
 99 63     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
100 64     SlaveTrainer.esp

 

 

I'm mostly aiming to just play the game with combat, NPC tweaks while also allowing for enslavement of my PC and of defeated NPC's.

Thank you very much in advance to any who have any tips or suggestions!

 

i did not see anything major that jumped out at me, but i did leave some notes (in color) in you mod list and load order and a few notes below, 

that may be helpful

 

anything that adds multiple ESM/ESP files you will have to manually check to be sure they are in the correct order.

 

something else to check is mods (addons too) to make sure they load in correct order (ie addons whether or not they are technically a separate mod, that affect stuff

should load in vanilla order ie insects begone main, then dawnguard addon, then hearthfires addon, then dragonborn addon).  example would be spots 36 and 37 above,

just reverse their order, doing this type thing makes sure that anything corrected by later additions does its job correctly.

 

also i would suggest you install crash fixes (https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2551-crash-fixes/) as it can help with issues (and let you break skyrim's default string limit),

but you should start a new game after installation.  for save game cleaning i would suggest you use Fallrim tools 

(https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2885-fallrimtools-script-cleaner-and-more/) as it will let you clean saves that have broken the default string limit already.

 

hope this is helpful

 

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You know what would be cool? If there was a way to download completed mod lists from people who've got a good setup. I mean, let's say I really like how person A's game looks and I like the mods they're using, so I'd just cleanly install the game and click on one massive download that would get me all the mods they're using and keep them in the same order. I know that's not possible, but I've spent so many hours over the years breaking my game and trying to fix it, that would be a godsend.

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1 hour ago, facepoppies said:

You know what would be cool? If there was a way to download completed mod lists from people who've got a good setup. I mean, let's say I really like how person A's game looks and I like the mods they're using, so I'd just cleanly install the game and click on one massive download that would get me all the mods they're using and keep them in the same order. I know that's not possible, but I've spent so many hours over the years breaking my game and trying to fix it, that would be a godsend.

A lot of the peeps who post 'let's play' vids on youtube post their mod lists. So:

1. Find one you like.

2. Install the mods.

3. Mess about with them till you break your game. :blush:

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One thing I would recommend is replacing the official hi res texture packs with optimized hi res textures mods available on Nexus.  It's because the official hi res textures are allegedly inefficient and heavier on system memory than they need to be, and of course when you're pushing the limit with hi res textures every little bit counts.  It's called Optimized Vanilla Textures.

 

I also recommend:

 

Crash Fixes

Safety Load (I know some sources say it's unnecessary, but I've always done well with it and it fixed my infinite loading screen issues)

Load Game CTD Fix

Bug Fixes

 

and of course go through the performance optimization tutorials on Nexus and other sites if you haven't already checked them out.

 

ParkControl (it unparks your cpu cores so they're much more responsive to Skyrim's memory demands)

Cleanmem (cleans up memory processes and frees up ram to help you keep from hitting the ctd ram limit)

The SKSE ini memory fixes

 

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