caocaothedeciever Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Hi everybody, after doing a major overhaul to the mods that I've been using and trying to get back into Skyrim, I was hoping I could check the more veteran users on Loverslab to see if they could take a look at my mod priority order and Load Order as per Mod Organizer to make sure I have everything lined up properly. I've been dealing with a few difficulties recently and have decided to go over all of my mods, check if they're the most recent builds, etc. and try to figure out which ones I don't really need anymore, but some of this is beyond my ken. Any suggestions or advice as to which mods are unnecessary, or which mods might be causing CTD or Script Conflicts, or what order they should be put in would all be really appreciated!! MO Mod Load Order Spoiler HighResTexturePack03 HighResTexturePack02 HighResTexturePack01 BarenziahQuestMarkers v1 Bounty Quest Fix BR HoodCirclets CLoaks of Skyrim DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers v1 Faction Armor Fuz Ro Doh GreenWaterFix v2 Compatible Guard Dialogue Overhaul hdtHighHeelbeta0 Hoodless Archmage Robes Inconsequential NPCs 1.9e Insects Begone V31 JContainers Left Hand Rings MacKom Lore Styles hair mod NetImmerse Override v 3-4 noRadientJEDragonborn SDMC PapyrusUtil v31 Realistic Force Dawnguard Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch Sexlab Creature Animations v 160 Showers in Inns Windcallers Pass Hearthfires Dragonborn PapyrusUtil- Modders Scripting Utility Functions Apachii SkyHair Mfg Console Drink Eat Sleep Bathe Baths for Hearthfire Homes Longhair for Female Khajiits Sexlab Framework v162 Full Campire- Complete Camping System I'll Take the Display Model SkyUI Female Facial Animation Fores New Idles in Skyrim FNIS Creature Pack Ultimate Combat A Matter of Time- HUD Clock Widget Diverse Guards Skyrim Bandolier- Bags and Pouches Unique Uniques Helgen Reborn RS Children Overhaul Immersive Weapons Bijin Wives Bijin Warmaidens Expanded Towns and Cities Follower Commentary Overhaul Feminine Females Bijin NPCs Immersive Armors Extensible Follower Framework UIExtensions v1-2 Brawl Bugs- Compatibility Edition Frostfall Seranaholic Racemenu Beautiful Danica- Healer Follower Michiko- Samurai Follower Better Males Sexlab Aroused V28b SpousesEnhanced Quest Eraser Brynjolf and Vex Thieves Guild Followers xazPrisonOverhaul Civil War Overhaul When Vampires Attack Run For Your LIves Karliah as Follower House of Horrors Alternate Ending Alternate Start- Live Another Life HDT Physics Extensions HDT Invisibility Fix 011 beta Lovely Hairstyles CBBE SG Female Textures Renewal ZazAnimation Pack V7 Zaz Craft 2 Bodyslide and Outfit Studio SLDialogues 30 SLAnimLoader FunnyBiznessAnimationPack SexLabTools v3.0 Devious Devices Assets Devious Devices Expansion Devious Devices Integration Devious Equip Captured Dreams Devious Devices for the Masses XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended Sanguines Debauchery Plus 36a SlaveTrainer Plugin Order as Organized By Loot: Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 hdtHighHeel.esm 7 7 SexLab.esm 8 8 Campfire.esm 9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm 10 a ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 11 b EFFCore.esm 12 c ApachiiHairFemales.esm 13 d ApachiiHair.esm 14 e SexLabAroused.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Assets.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 17 11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 18 12 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp 19 13 SkyUI.esp 20 14 ETaC - Complete.esp 21 15 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp 22 16 Helgen Reborn.esp 23 17 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 24 18 Brawl Bugs CE.esp 25 19 Bounty Quest Fix.esp 26 1a xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 27 1b Civil War Overhaul.esp 28 1c Feminine Females.esp 29 1d FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp 30 1e UIExtensions.esp 31 1f BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 32 20 noRadiantJE.esp 33 21 GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp 34 22 MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp 35 23 When Vampires Attack.esp 36 24 Insects Begone - DragonBorn Spiders and Ashoppers.esp 37 25 Insects Begone - Hearthfires.esp FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp FtM_3 - OBIS.esp 38 26 Drink Eat Sleep.esp 39 27 Immersive Weapons.esp 40 28 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp 41 29 LeftHandRings.esp 42 2a BR_HoodCirclets.esp 43 2b Captured Dreams.esp 44 2c Immersive Whiterun.esp 45 2d Immersive Solstheim.esp 46 2e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 47 2f Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 48 30 _admod.esp 49 31 Hoodless Archmage Robes.esp 50 32 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 51 33 Inconsequential NPCs.esp 52 34 Run For Your Lives.esp 53 35 FtM_3.esp FtM_3 - CCOR.esp 54 36 Cloaks.esp 55 37 Nightingale Hall.esp 56 38 EFFDialogue.esp 57 39 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 58 3a ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 59 3b Frostfall.esp 60 3c SexLab_Dialogues.esp 61 3d Insects Begone - Spiders and Chaurus.esp 62 3e Insects Begone - Dawnguard - Spiders and Chaurus.esp 63 3f ShowersInInns.esp 64 40 SpousesEnhanced.esp 65 41 DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp 66 42 LakeviewBathhouse.esp 67 43 WinstadBathhouse.esp 68 44 HeljarchenBathhouse.esp 69 45 PP_WindcallerPass.esp 70 46 GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp 71 47 HouseOfHorrorsAlternateEnding.esp 72 48 mmkhajiithair11.esp 73 49 FNIS.esp 74 4a UltimateCombat.esp 75 4b AMatterOfTime.esp 76 4c SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp 77 4d Dr_Bandolier.esp 78 4e Unique Uniques.esp 79 4f Bijin Wives.esp 80 50 Drink Eat Sleep Addon - Dragonborn.esp 81 51 Drink Eat Sleep Addon - Hearthfire.esp 82 52 Serana.esp 83 53 DanicaTheHealer.esp 84 54 Michiko.esp 85 55 Quest Eraser.esp 86 56 Brynjolf & Vex Followers.esp 87 57 Bijin NPCs.esp 88 58 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 89 59 RSChildren.esp 90 5a RaceMenu.esp 91 5b RaceMenuPlugin.esp 92 5c SLAnimLoader.esp 93 5d Devious Devices - Equip.esp 94 5e zaz-craft.esp 95 5f dcc-dm2.esp 96 60 SexLabTools.esp 97 61 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 98 62 XPMSE.esp 99 63 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 100 64 SlaveTrainer.esp I'm mostly aiming to just play the game with combat, NPC tweaks while also allowing for enslavement of my PC and of defeated NPC's. Thank you very much in advance to any who have any tips or suggestions! Link to comment
luc87 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 This is a nice post! I follow and try to learn something. I'm still at the beginning and I try to make the adult mods work better with NMM but I think I'll have to learn how to use Mod Organizer and Loot :,) Link to comment
caocaothedeciever Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, luc87 said: This is a nice post! I follow and try to learn something. I'm still at the beginning and I try to make the adult mods work better with NMM but I think I'll have to learn how to use Mod Organizer and Loot :,) Cheers ^^. Mod Organizer I have to say really is the best. With Loot, it can help you find solutions to your problems 9/10 Link to comment
Gimlord Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Hey, surely use loot for the load order.Also if you want use wryebash and mergeplugins to minimize the number of the esp, if you get near the limit. Also use save game script cleaner, specially if you unistall a mod. And a mod i suggest using cause it reduced my ctd's a lot, ssme skyrim start up memory editor. Link to comment
caocaothedeciever Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 18 hours ago, Gimlord said: Hey, surely use loot for the load order.Also if you want use wryebash and mergeplugins to minimize the number of the esp, if you get near the limit. Also use save game script cleaner, specially if you unistall a mod. And a mod i suggest using cause it reduced my ctd's a lot, ssme skyrim start up memory editor. Thankfully I'm doing okay ESP wise, and I have Game script cleaner. SSME SKyrim? I'll check that out, thank you for the suggestion. Link to comment
valcon767 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 2/6/2018 at 2:27 AM, caocaothedeciever said: Hi everybody, after doing a major overhaul to the mods that I've been using and trying to get back into Skyrim, I was hoping I could check the more veteran users on Loverslab to see if they could take a look at my mod priority order and Load Order as per Mod Organizer to make sure I have everything lined up properly. I've been dealing with a few difficulties recently and have decided to go over all of my mods, check if they're the most recent builds, etc. and try to figure out which ones I don't really need anymore, but some of this is beyond my ken. Any suggestions or advice as to which mods are unnecessary, or which mods might be causing CTD or Script Conflicts, or what order they should be put in would all be really appreciated!! MO Mod Load Order Hide contents HighResTexturePack03 HighResTexturePack02 HighResTexturePack01 BarenziahQuestMarkers v1 Bounty Quest Fix BR HoodCirclets CLoaks of Skyrim DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers v1 Faction Armor Fuz Ro Doh GreenWaterFix v2 Compatible Guard Dialogue Overhaul hdtHighHeelbeta0 Hoodless Archmage Robes Inconsequential NPCs 1.9e Insects Begone V31 JContainers check to make sure you have latest version and that no mod provided copy overwrites it (i have this just above XPMSE) Left Hand Rings MacKom Lore Styles hair mod NetImmerse Override v 3-4 noRadientJEDragonborn SDMC PapyrusUtil v31 same as JContainers Realistic Force Dawnguard Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch Sexlab Creature Animations v 160 Showers in Inns Windcallers Pass Hearthfires Dragonborn PapyrusUtil- Modders Scripting Utility Functions Apachii SkyHair Mfg Console Drink Eat Sleep Bathe Baths for Hearthfire Homes Longhair for Female Khajiits Sexlab Framework v162 Full Campire- Complete Camping System I'll Take the Display Model SkyUI Female Facial Animation Fores New Idles in Skyrim FNIS Creature Pack Ultimate Combat A Matter of Time- HUD Clock Widget Diverse Guards Skyrim Bandolier- Bags and Pouches Unique Uniques Helgen Reborn RS Children Overhaul Immersive Weapons Bijin Wives Bijin Warmaidens Expanded Towns and Cities Follower Commentary Overhaul Feminine Females Bijin NPCs Immersive Armors Extensible Follower Framework UIExtensions v1-2 same as JConstainers again Brawl Bugs- Compatibility Edition Frostfall Seranaholic Racemenu Beautiful Danica- Healer Follower Michiko- Samurai Follower Better Males Sexlab Aroused V28b SpousesEnhanced Quest Eraser Brynjolf and Vex Thieves Guild Followers xazPrisonOverhaul Civil War Overhaul When Vampires Attack Run For Your LIves Karliah as Follower House of Horrors Alternate Ending Alternate Start- Live Another Life HDT Physics Extensions HDT Invisibility Fix 011 beta Lovely Hairstyles CBBE SG Female Textures Renewal ZazAnimation Pack V7 Zaz Craft 2 Bodyslide and Outfit Studio SLDialogues 30 SLAnimLoader FunnyBiznessAnimationPack SexLabTools v3.0 Devious Devices Assets Devious Devices Expansion Devious Devices Integration Devious Equip Captured Dreams Devious Devices for the Masses XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended Sanguines Debauchery Plus 36a SlaveTrainer Plugin Order as Organized By Loot: Hide contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 hdtHighHeel.esm 7 7 SexLab.esm 8 8 Campfire.esm 9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm 10 a ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 11 b EFFCore.esm 12 c ApachiiHairFemales.esm 13 d ApachiiHair.esm 14 e SexLabAroused.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Assets.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 17 11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 18 12 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp 19 13 SkyUI.esp 20 14 ETaC - Complete.esp 21 15 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp 22 16 Helgen Reborn.esp this one (if i remember right) should not be activated until after Helgen resets (4-5 days after completing "After the Storm") if you do this you will need to use something as a "placeholder" so all following mods will not have their load order changed. 23 17 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 24 18 Brawl Bugs CE.esp 25 19 Bounty Quest Fix.esp 26 1a xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 27 1b Civil War Overhaul.esp 28 1c Feminine Females.esp 29 1d FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp 30 1e UIExtensions.esp 31 1f BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 32 20 noRadiantJE.esp 33 21 GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp 34 22 MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp 35 23 When Vampires Attack.esp 36 24 Insects Begone - DragonBorn Spiders and Ashoppers.esp see below 37 25 Insects Begone - Hearthfires.esp see below FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp FtM_3 - OBIS.esp 38 26 Drink Eat Sleep.esp 39 27 Immersive Weapons.esp 40 28 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp see below 41 29 LeftHandRings.esp see below 42 2a BR_HoodCirclets.esp 43 2b Captured Dreams.esp 44 2c Immersive Whiterun.esp 45 2d Immersive Solstheim.esp 46 2e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 47 2f Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 48 30 _admod.esp 49 31 Hoodless Archmage Robes.esp 50 32 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 51 33 Inconsequential NPCs.esp 52 34 Run For Your Lives.esp 53 35 FtM_3.esp FtM_3 - CCOR.esp 54 36 Cloaks.esp 55 37 Nightingale Hall.esp 56 38 EFFDialogue.esp 57 39 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 58 3a ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 59 3b Frostfall.esp 60 3c SexLab_Dialogues.esp 61 3d Insects Begone - Spiders and Chaurus.esp see below 62 3e Insects Begone - Dawnguard - Spiders and Chaurus.esp see below 63 3f ShowersInInns.esp 64 40 SpousesEnhanced.esp 65 41 DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp 66 42 LakeviewBathhouse.esp 67 43 WinstadBathhouse.esp 68 44 HeljarchenBathhouse.esp 69 45 PP_WindcallerPass.esp 70 46 GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp 71 47 HouseOfHorrorsAlternateEnding.esp 72 48 mmkhajiithair11.esp 73 49 FNIS.esp 74 4a UltimateCombat.esp 75 4b AMatterOfTime.esp 76 4c SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp 77 4d Dr_Bandolier.esp 78 4e Unique Uniques.esp 79 4f Bijin Wives.esp 80 50 Drink Eat Sleep Addon - Dragonborn.esp 81 51 Drink Eat Sleep Addon - Hearthfire.esp 82 52 Serana.esp 83 53 DanicaTheHealer.esp 84 54 Michiko.esp 85 55 Quest Eraser.esp 86 56 Brynjolf & Vex Followers.esp 87 57 Bijin NPCs.esp 88 58 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 89 59 RSChildren.esp 90 5a RaceMenu.esp 91 5b RaceMenuPlugin.esp 92 5c SLAnimLoader.esp 93 5d Devious Devices - Equip.esp 94 5e zaz-craft.esp 95 5f dcc-dm2.esp 96 60 SexLabTools.esp 97 61 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 98 62 XPMSE.esp 99 63 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 100 64 SlaveTrainer.esp I'm mostly aiming to just play the game with combat, NPC tweaks while also allowing for enslavement of my PC and of defeated NPC's. Thank you very much in advance to any who have any tips or suggestions! i did not see anything major that jumped out at me, but i did leave some notes (in color) in you mod list and load order and a few notes below, that may be helpful anything that adds multiple ESM/ESP files you will have to manually check to be sure they are in the correct order. something else to check is mods (addons too) to make sure they load in correct order (ie addons whether or not they are technically a separate mod, that affect stuff should load in vanilla order ie insects begone main, then dawnguard addon, then hearthfires addon, then dragonborn addon). example would be spots 36 and 37 above, just reverse their order, doing this type thing makes sure that anything corrected by later additions does its job correctly. also i would suggest you install crash fixes (https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2551-crash-fixes/) as it can help with issues (and let you break skyrim's default string limit), but you should start a new game after installation. for save game cleaning i would suggest you use Fallrim tools (https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2885-fallrimtools-script-cleaner-and-more/) as it will let you clean saves that have broken the default string limit already. hope this is helpful Link to comment
Guest Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 You know what would be cool? If there was a way to download completed mod lists from people who've got a good setup. I mean, let's say I really like how person A's game looks and I like the mods they're using, so I'd just cleanly install the game and click on one massive download that would get me all the mods they're using and keep them in the same order. I know that's not possible, but I've spent so many hours over the years breaking my game and trying to fix it, that would be a godsend. Link to comment
Grey Cloud Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, facepoppies said: You know what would be cool? If there was a way to download completed mod lists from people who've got a good setup. I mean, let's say I really like how person A's game looks and I like the mods they're using, so I'd just cleanly install the game and click on one massive download that would get me all the mods they're using and keep them in the same order. I know that's not possible, but I've spent so many hours over the years breaking my game and trying to fix it, that would be a godsend. A lot of the peeps who post 'let's play' vids on youtube post their mod lists. So: 1. Find one you like. 2. Install the mods. 3. Mess about with them till you break your game. Link to comment
manchuligans Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 One thing I would recommend is replacing the official hi res texture packs with optimized hi res textures mods available on Nexus. It's because the official hi res textures are allegedly inefficient and heavier on system memory than they need to be, and of course when you're pushing the limit with hi res textures every little bit counts. It's called Optimized Vanilla Textures. I also recommend: Crash Fixes Safety Load (I know some sources say it's unnecessary, but I've always done well with it and it fixed my infinite loading screen issues) Load Game CTD Fix Bug Fixes and of course go through the performance optimization tutorials on Nexus and other sites if you haven't already checked them out. ParkControl (it unparks your cpu cores so they're much more responsive to Skyrim's memory demands) Cleanmem (cleans up memory processes and frees up ram to help you keep from hitting the ctd ram limit) The SKSE ini memory fixes Link to comment
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