Falmer not being aggressive?

[Fishman51]

Falmer only turn aggressive after i hit them like friendly npcs would but i dont get the e to talk

I also have a mod that adds some Draenei into the falmer caves and theyre also passive but i guess theyre just remodeled Falmer

Any idea what could be causing this?

 

Mod list

 

 

  0  0 Skyrim.esm
  1  1 Update.esm
  2  2 Dawnguard.esm
  3  3 HearthFires.esm
  4  4 Dragonborn.esm
  5  5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6 HoldsResources.esm
  7  7 ApachiiHair.esm
  8  8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  9  9 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
 10  a RaceCompatibility.esm
 11  b Grytewake.esm
       DraeneiRace.esm
 12  c TeenVoice.esm
 13  d hdtHighHeel.esm
 14  e ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 15  f SGHairPackBase.esm
 16 10 SexLab.esm
 17 11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 18 12 SexLabAroused.esm
 19 13 Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 20 14 Inn Girls Resources.esm
 21 15 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 22 16 CoD Waking Nightmare II.esm
 23 17 notice board.esp
 24 18 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 25 19 CreatureFramework.esm
 26 1a SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
 27 1b RichMerchants.esp
 28 1c WeightlessAlchemyIngredients.esp
 29 1d WeightlessCraftedPotions.esp
 30 1e WeightlessDragonBones.esp
 31 1f WeightlessDragonClaws.esp
 32 20 WeightlessDwemerSmeltables.esp
 33 21 WeightlessFood.esp
 34 22 WeightlessPotions.esp
 35 23 WeightlessScrolls.esp
 36 24 Realistic AI Detection 2 Lite.esp
 37 25 SkyUI.esp
 38 26 XPMSE.esp
 39 27 MashupCHSBHC.esp
 40 28 HelmetToggle2.02b.esp
 41 29 FlameAtronachArmor.esp
 42 2a Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
 43 2b WeightlessOreIngotsPeltsGems.esp
 44 2c Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
 45 2d ContinueGameNoCrash.esp
 46 2e Daedric_Biscuts_Weightless_Books.esp
 47 2f 1nivWICCloaks.esp
 48 30 SexyVest.esp
 49 31 Alternate Valerica.esp
 50 32 TrueStorms.esp
 51 33 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
 52 34 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
 53 35 dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp
 54 36 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
 55 37 Skyrim Bigger Trees Full.esp
 56 38 PsijicOrder.esp
 57 39 ApachiiHairStyles.esp
 58 3a KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
 59 3b Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
 60 3c RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
 61 3d no sun damage vampires.esp
 62 3e FemaleWerewolf.esp
 63 3f mintylightningmod.esp
 64 40 SGEyebrows.esp
 65 41 TD_MHC_Replacer.esp
 66 42 TD_Rayya_Replacer.esp
 67 43 Serana No Hood.esp
 68 44 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
 69 45 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp
 70 46 TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp
 71 47 CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp
 72 48 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
 73 49 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
 74 4a arousing_weather_plugin.esp
 75 4b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
 76 4c 3DNPC.esp
 77 4d Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
 78 4e RealisticWaterTwo.esp
 79 4f Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
 80 50 Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp
 81 51 ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp
 82 52 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
 83 53 Undeath.esp
 84 54 Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
 85 55 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
 86 56 Immersive Wenches.esp
 87 57 BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
 88 58 SexLab_Solutions.esp
 89 59 SoS - Civilization.esp
 90 5a arousing_weather_climates_of_tamriel.esp
 91 5b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
 92 5c hydra_slavegirls.esp
 93 5d Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
 94 5e Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
 95 5f Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
 96 60 Deadly Wenches.esp
 97 61 NewVampChainsArmor.esp
 98 62 FEMALE.esp
 99 63 SoS - The Dungeons.esp
100 64 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
101 65 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
102 66 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
103 67 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
104 68 SexLab-Stories.esp
       Sekirei.esp
105 69 HentaiCreatures.esp
106 6a Grytewake.esp
107 6b RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
108 6c Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp
109 6d fallentreebridges.esp
110 6e SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp
111 6f Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
112 70 quest into the depths.esp
113 71 ZaFromTheDeepsV2.esp
114 72 AdalMatar.esp
115 73 SimpleSlavery.esp
116 74 Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
117 75 CoD Waking Nightmare II.esp
118 76 Skyshards.esp
119 77 Marriable Serana.esp
120 78 AgentOfRighteousMight.esp
121 79 Loraine.esp
122 7a SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
123 7b Amame_follower.esp
124 7c Major Races Overhaul.esp
125 7d crimsonquestmarkers.esp
126 7e Devious Cidhna.esp
127 7f SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
128 80 HouseMansion.esp
129 81 HoldsModularUSLEEPCompatibilityPatch.esp
130 82 theAsylum.esp
131 83 FullBootForKKSA.esp
132 84 FemaleBriarHearts.esp
133 85 LylvieveSisters.esp
134 86 Six Beautiful Followers Standalone.esp
135 87 Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp
136 88 SexLab-Parasites.esp
137 89 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
138 8a PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
139 8b PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
140 8c PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
141 8d Ancient Spells 2.esp
142 8e Size Does Matter HF.esp
143 8f Dolls.esp
144 90 Tanya.esp
145 91 Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
146 92 Katherine.esp
147 93 SummonWereHerm.esp
148 94 HermWolfPlayer.esp
149 95 100XCarryWeight.esp
150 96 Avarantha Aman.esp
151 97 Dawn&Dusk.esp
152 98 Follower_Claudia.esp
153 99 Fredrika Follower.esp
154 9a Immersive Monster Girls.esp
155 9b TemptressVixen.esp
156 9c Hecate.esp
157 9d FEMALE_DLCaddon.esp
158 9e SexLab Romance.esp
159 9f LustyArgonianMaid&SultryArgonianBard.esp
160 a0 Initiate.esp
161 a1 ElisHotSprings.esm
162 a2 Legionettes.esp
163 a3 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
164 a4 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp
165 a5 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
166 a6 DeadlyCombat.esp
167 a7 PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp
168 a8 Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
169 a9 JiubQuestMarkers.esp
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172 ac Customizable Camera.esp
173 ad iHUD.esp
174 ae ShannaLoadScreensADDON.esp
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176 b0 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
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178 b2 bugi_quicksave.esp
179 b3 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
180 b4 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
181 b5 More Hair Colors Dawnguard.esp
182 b6 Extended Slider Colors.esp
183 b7 SkyrimIsWindy.esp
184 b8 Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp
185 b9 Skyrim Unadoption Mod.esp
186 ba ARO_Follwer.esp
187 bb Nadia.esp
188 bc BVLT - Human.esp
189 bd RosaFollower.esp
190 be Lucretia.esp
191 bf TCCO_ALL_IN_ONE.esp
192 c0 Mirielle Follower.esp
193 c1 JokerinePenguins.esp
194 c2 Emfy Cleric Robes.esp
195 c3 Karyssa Althera.esp
196 c4 Toccata.esp
197 c5 TeenGiant.esp
198 c6 FollowerVio.esp
       arousing_weather_new_lands.esp
199 c7 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
200 c8 Breast Size Scaling for NPCs.esp
201 c9 CeciliaFollower.esp
202 ca Devious Deviants.esp
203 cb Nireli.esp
204 cc SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
205 cd QuieterDogs.esp
206 ce Dota2Outfits.esp
207 cf ERF - Ceraph.esp
208 d0 EstrusChaurus.esp
209 d1 zzEstrus.esp
210 d2 12FemaleBrows.esp
211 d3 Mannequin.esp
212 d4 Followers of Aber.esp
       Half Orc Race.esp
213 d5 Companion_Ria.esp
214 d6 Sexual Vampire Feed.esp
215 d7 TwinSildaril.esp
216 d8 Cute Adoptable.esp
217 d9 Saeko.esp
218 da OK_Noela.esp
219 db Cute Serana.esp
220 dc LoversVictim.esp
       BedUndressDLC.esp
221 dd FestiveAttire.esp
222 de TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
223 df TrueEyes.esp
224 e0 Nilaya.esp
225 e1 Inafollower.esp
226 e2 CopyArmor.esp
227 e3 SGHairPackAIO.esp
228 e4 SexLab Horny Followers.esp
229 e5 SexLabDefeat.esp
230 e6 SWT1.2.esp
231 e7 SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
232 e8 SexLab Brawling Rape.esp
233 e9 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
234 ea MoreNastyCritters.esp
235 eb Miqo'te Follower.esp
236 ec SexLabSquirtR.esp
237 ed Jugs.esp
238 ee SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
239 ef SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp
240 f0 FNIS.esp
241 f1 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
242 f2 SecretPlaces.esp
243 f3 TheLandlordsDaughter.esp
       SlaveTats.esp
244 f4 Blush When Aroused.esp
245 f5 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
246 f6 Ciceriareplacor.esp
247 f7 FollowerCiceria.esp
248 f8 zdd.esp
249 f9 HorrifiedFemalePrisons.esp
250 fa Amiella Outfit.esp
251 fb HDT TestSkirts.esp
252 fc AshiensCursedRings.esp
253 fd BDIC.esp
254 fe BDIC SkyTEST Patch.esp

 

 

 

That mod cap btw

 

Thanks!

[Dragonjoe69]

Try slappin the crap out of a couple of em and burning their villages, if that don't work rename the falmer race to pussies(the creation kit rules lol) and take out your anger on the thalmor. lol

[flatliner10]

Maybe it is because of:

 36 24 Realistic AI Detection 2 Lite.esp

Falmer are near-Blind in the basegame if you have a silencing thing going on and this or another mod tweaks around with them, they might not detect you at at all.

[AWP3RATOR]

That's quite a list!  I've had similar issues happen with SD+, which you're not running - but the issue was that after being freeing the player character from slavery, the factions were not properly clearing - and I was stuck in a "friendly to all" faction.  The result was that nothing was hostile that should have been.  The most currently version of SD+ seems to be free of this issue however.  If it's just falmer, it's more likely what flatliner10 suggested.

 

 

Not that it caused your issue, but have you considered merge plugins?  The 8 mods below are a perfect example - you can merge them all in to a single merged esp and reduce your load order by 7, in this example.  Here is a video on how to use it as well:  Merge Plugins - Start to Finish

 

 28 1c WeightlessAlchemyIngredients.esp
 29 1d WeightlessCraftedPotions.esp
 30 1e WeightlessDragonBones.esp
 31 1f WeightlessDragonClaws.esp
 32 20 WeightlessDwemerSmeltables.esp
 33 21 WeightlessFood.esp
 34 22 WeightlessPotions.esp
 35 23 WeightlessScrolls.esp

 

 

 

[Fishman51]

Thanks for the help guys but unfortunately it was not caused by 36 24 Realistic AI Detection 2 Lite.esp

I also merged the Weightless plugins

 

I have no idea what could be causing this :/

[Fishman51]

I figured it out, i was infected with spider eggs from Kynes Blessing and that made me a part of the spider faction for some reason and falmers were friendly to spiders, fixed it with the command "player.removefromfaction 2997f" or curing myself from the mod menu but thats no fun and heres hoping removing the faction isnt going to break the mod

[AWP3RATOR]

Could very well be that a mod or mods in your order have "messed" with the Falmers, in that one made good changes, another made changes you don't want - like being overly stealthy, or otherwise making them not notice you unless you attack.

 

You're not running a bashed patch, and with a mod list of your size, with the variability of mods you are running - it can certainly help with the allowing the mods to play nicely together.  It's not a one stop solution, but it can definitely improve your game.  Gamer Poet's Bashed Patch tutorial here

[kaizersoze27]

On 10/23/2017 at 5:40 AM, Fishman51 said:

I figured it out, i was infected with spider eggs from Kynes Blessing and that made me a part of the spider faction for some reason and falmers were friendly to spiders, fixed it with the command "player.removefromfaction 2997f" or curing myself from the mod menu but thats no fun and heres hoping removing the faction isnt going to break the mod

Thank you for this!