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I just got SL and DD working after what has been a very problematic startup process in which the members of this community helped me a lot.

Still though, there are some annoying things that happen:

 

1: Strapon belts partially clip into the female model wearing them, always.

 

2: The metal bras worn by the 'workers' at Captured Dreams clip almost entirely into the character models. They're just breasts with areas of morphing metal shapes.

 

3: Some character models have semi detached hands. As in, I can sometimes see through their arm through the wrist. Well, maybe 'some' is exaggerating a little bit, as I've only seen it on one character thus far, but I haven't played that long and many of the NPC's I've met still wear clothing.

 

4: Sometimes the characters clip into some weird positions. Charmed a woman once, and we started having sex inside the wall. Got arrested and got banged by the female warden who mid-act sank halfway through the floor and proceeded to hump my lower leg, and I felt all awkward and just pretended it was somewhat uncomfortable.

 

5: A small clipping error in the fullbody (upper and lower body minus arms, legs and head) bondage equipment I always forget the name of. On my character's belly there's an area where the strap clips into the model right below the navel.

 

I'm guessing there's no easy fix to these, but I figured I'd ask for help anyhow.

 

Modlist:

 

+Alternate Start - Live Another Life

+PapyrusUtil - Scripting Utility Functions
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended
+BodySlide and Outfit Studio
+UNP Female Body Renewal
+SOS
+xazPrisonOverhaul V033
+xazPrisonOverhaul V033 fix
+Reward
+display model
+Captured Dreams
+RaceMenu v3-4
+SexLab solutions
+Fuz Ro Doh
+Anub
+Devious Devices Expansion
+Devious Devices Integration
+ZazAnimationPackV7
+Devious Devices Assets
+SexLabMatchMaker
+SLAnimLoader
+JContainers
+SexLab
+FNIS Behavior
+UIExtensions v1-2
+SkyUI
+HDT Physics Extensions
+SexLabAroused V28b
+SexLabFramework v162 FULL
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
 

 

Loadorder

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SkyUI.esp
UIExtensions.esp
FNIS.esp
SexLabTools.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SexLabMatchMaker.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Captured Dreams.esp
dcc-dm2.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp
RewardYourFollowers.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
XPMSE.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 

 

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Have you run the batch build in bodyslide?  This is needed to form the armor and clothing to your chosen body.  Are you using NMM or MO?  (I can't help you with NMM).

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2: The metal bras worn by the 'workers' at Captured Dreams clip almost entirely into the character models. They're just breasts with areas of morphing metal shapes.

Try disabling breast management in the DD menu.

 

5: A small clipping error in the fullbody (upper and lower body minus arms, legs and head) bondage equipment I always forget the name of. On my character's belly there's an area where the strap clips into the model right below the navel.

When you built the Devious Devices in bodyslide did you also build a base body? Or at least make sure you used the same slider settings?

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Have you run the batch build in bodyslide?  This is needed to form the armor and clothing to your chosen body.  Are you using NMM or MO?  (I can't help you with NMM).

 

I built them in MO.

 

 

 

2: The metal bras worn by the 'workers' at Captured Dreams clip almost entirely into the character models. They're just breasts with areas of morphing metal shapes.

Try disabling breast management in the DD menu.

 

5: A small clipping error in the fullbody (upper and lower body minus arms, legs and head) bondage equipment I always forget the name of. On my character's belly there's an area where the strap clips into the model right below the navel.

When you built the Devious Devices in bodyslide did you also build a base body? Or at least make sure you used the same slider settings?

 

 

It's getting late here, so I'll try that out tomorrow.

 

I didn't build a base body because I didn't know how. I did come across some model editor when messing around before I reinstalled MO, but I wasn't sure how to save it for usage in the game. The stock model I ended up with worked well enough, so I didn't see the need to look further into it until I actually got the animations working and saw the DD equipment in action.

Can I retroactively edit my character model and refit the equipment for it? 

 

 

Posted

 

Have you run the batch build in bodyslide?  This is needed to form the armor and clothing to your chosen body.  Are you using NMM or MO?  (I can't help you with NMM).

 

I built them in MO.

 

 

 

2: The metal bras worn by the 'workers' at Captured Dreams clip almost entirely into the character models. They're just breasts with areas of morphing metal shapes.

Try disabling breast management in the DD menu.

 

5: A small clipping error in the fullbody (upper and lower body minus arms, legs and head) bondage equipment I always forget the name of. On my character's belly there's an area where the strap clips into the model right below the navel.

When you built the Devious Devices in bodyslide did you also build a base body? Or at least make sure you used the same slider settings?

 

 

It's getting late here, so I'll try that out tomorrow.

 

I didn't build a base body because I didn't know how. I did come across some model editor when messing around before I reinstalled MO, but I wasn't sure how to save it for usage in the game. The stock model I ended up with worked well enough, so I didn't see the need to look further into it until I actually got the animations working and saw the DD equipment in action.

Can I retroactively edit my character model and refit the equipment for it? 

 

 

Open bodyslide

top left select type of body - CBBE HDT etc

just below that select style - Curvy, skinny etc

at bottom, click the big build button

click on tick box next to batch build button for morphs

click on batch build button and follow screens to completion.

 

Should then have a body and bodyslide meshes that match.

 

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Open bodyslide

top left select type of body - CBBE HDT etc

just below that select style - Curvy, skinny etc

at bottom, click the big build button

click on tick box next to batch build button for morphs

click on batch build button and follow screens to completion.

 

Should then have a body and bodyslide meshes that match.

 

Ah! I thought that was only for outfits. Is there any way to modify with a live preview? I hate having to guess until I hit preview. Gonna take ages making a good model that way.

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Open bodyslide

top left select type of body - CBBE HDT etc

just below that select style - Curvy, skinny etc

at bottom, click the big build button

click on tick box next to batch build button for morphs

click on batch build button and follow screens to completion.

 

Should then have a body and bodyslide meshes that match.

 

Ah! I thought that was only for outfits. Is there any way to modify with a live preview? I hate having to guess until I hit preview. Gonna take ages making a good model that way.

 

The preview window should live-update with any changes you make. Just keep in mind that you'll want to save the preset, and rebuild all the outfits/devices with the new preset as well. Or else they won't fit properly.

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I just got SL and DD working after what has been a very problematic startup process in which the members of this community helped me a lot.

Still though, there are some annoying things that happen:

 

1: Strapon belts partially clip into the female model wearing them, always.

 

4: Sometimes the characters clip into some weird positions. Charmed a woman once, and we started having sex inside the wall. Got arrested and got banged by the female warden who mid-act sank halfway through the floor and proceeded to hump my lower leg, and I felt all awkward and just pretended it was somewhat uncomfortable.

 

 

Stiffon gives good advice which should mostly take care of all the other points

 

for these 2

 

1 - some strapon's will be fixed by doing the bodyslide ...for the others there are 2 options

      A - live with it.  the strapon as built, by the original mod maker, is actually built for a specific bodytype/race combo and any other combo will

           have (usually very minor) clipping issues

           (example - if the strapon was originally built to fit a 7BO Nord then even a 7BO Breton {much less a CBBE Slim Dunmer} will have clipping

            issues if it was not built to use bodyslide originally).

      B - learn how to use bodyslide to modify the individual strapon belts yourself.

 

also be aware there are extra strapon mods available (some with and some without bodyslide).

 

and also on the SexLab MCM page, on the Rebuild and Clean tab (the very bottom tab) there is a strapon list that you can use to remove strapons

from use in game (if you remove them the game will not use them anymore), so you can remove ones you absolutely do not want to see in game,

 

 

4 - if you ever figure this one out (how to prevent that ever happening) please tell me.  I have seen (and had) the same thing happen....most times

     I just deal with it (it is not to bad usually when it happens to me).

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4 - if you ever figure this one out (how to prevent that ever happening) please tell me.  I have seen (and had) the same thing happen....most times

     I just deal with it (it is not to bad usually when it happens to me).

While I don't know of a way to stop it, sexlab has a key you can press to move the scene elsewhere (like away from said wall or whatever).

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Regarding the strapons I personally had to have it refitted and rebuilt in bodyslide then had to override the nonCBBE version in the Sexlab as I couldn't get it to stop wanting to use vanilla scaled version. You may have to do something like that.

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Open bodyslide

top left select type of body - CBBE HDT etc

just below that select style - Curvy, skinny etc

at bottom, click the big build button

click on tick box next to batch build button for morphs

click on batch build button and follow screens to completion.

 

Should then have a body and bodyslide meshes that match.

 

 

I click Build, then Batch build, but many of the DD items fail to generate, and so far I haven't found out how to load a previous generated body shape, so every time I mess around with it I have to do it all over again.

 

I'm using the regular Unified UNP, not the HDT one. Maybe I should try and see if that works.

 

Also, the reason I assumed there was no live preview function was because I only tried adjusting the Low weight settings when the preview was for the high weight settings. Before I build I copy the settings from the high weight sliders over to the low weight side.

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