NNS10 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 The evil roleplay has always been difficult b/c of how static the world is and also the type of mods available. Going to try again though. Is it possible for an evil conqueror roleplay where the character tries to takeover Skyrim? I looked at High King of Skyrim since there are routes to become high king by killing Ulfric/Elisif, but it also requires doing the annoying political stuff by having supporters (why would an evil conqueror bother with that?). I'm not sure what other ways there are to do this roleplay. Are there other ways to be more flexible with the roleplay and mods available that could sort of make this doable?
Guest Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 . . . but it also requires doing the annoying political stuff by having supporters (why would an evil conqueror bother with that?). How do you expect to maintain your rule without soldiers, advisers, bureaucrats, and treasurers?
winny257 Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 Why a wicked conqueror????the psyche of a humans is reflected in his game. And it is so easy to be high kings. Elisif the Fair Marriable - become future High King or Queen by Beth http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/10343/? Become High King of Skyrim by Solarhamster http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/41087/?
Delzaron Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 Mostly everything is possible by modding... problem is a mod like what you dream will take lot of time to develop, and it's risky to modfy vanilla cities.
Kain82 Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 . . . but it also requires doing the annoying political stuff by having supporters (why would an evil conqueror bother with that?). How do you expect to maintain your rule without soldiers, advisers, bureaucrats, and treasurers? Exactly. Even the evil factions in Warhammer: Total War have soldiers, advisers, bureaucrats, and treasurers.
NNS10 Posted July 17, 2017 Author Posted July 17, 2017 . . . but it also requires doing the annoying political stuff by having supporters (why would an evil conqueror bother with that?). How do you expect to maintain your rule without soldiers, advisers, bureaucrats, and treasurers? Exactly. Even the evil factions in Warhammer: Total War have soldiers, advisers, bureaucrats, and treasurers. Who said anything about ruling? This is a conqueror Only need them to submit to the conqueror's power. Thing is without some sort of mod to handle this, even if you make essentials killable and wipe out the town including the Jarl, the guards do respawn and will still aggro you. So you can never quite conquer a city/town.
Kain82 Posted July 18, 2017 Posted July 18, 2017 . . . but it also requires doing the annoying political stuff by having supporters (why would an evil conqueror bother with that?). How do you expect to maintain your rule without soldiers, advisers, bureaucrats, and treasurers? Exactly. Even the evil factions in Warhammer: Total War have soldiers, advisers, bureaucrats, and treasurers. Who said anything about ruling? This is a conqueror Only need them to submit to the conqueror's power. Thing is without some sort of mod to handle this, even if you make essentials killable and wipe out the town including the Jarl, the guards do respawn and will still aggro you. So you can never quite conquer a city/town. Don't you eventually want to rule over the people you conquered? Like Tiber Septim, Julius Caesar, and Alexander the Great?
winny257 Posted July 18, 2017 Posted July 18, 2017 ---snip--- Don't you eventually want to rule over the people you conquered? Like Tiber Septim, Julius Caesar, and Alexander the Great? But one you've forgotten, He was actually the greatest and bloodthirsty Conqueror of all time. https://www.welt.de/img/geschichte/mobile115440721/3512504017-ci102l-w1024/zgbdc5-69pwlhbnbdu16b580kic-original-jpg.jpg And a very important point, all these conquerors (except Tiber Septim) had generals and a huge army. https://www.strategie-zone.de/forum/gallery/image/18024/source Not as in Skyrim where 10 Imperials against 10 Stormcloaks fight. Or a patrol of 3 soldiers, in Skyrim are the greatest fights of all time. If it were at least so!
Kain82 Posted July 18, 2017 Posted July 18, 2017 ---snip--- Don't you eventually want to rule over the people you conquered? Like Tiber Septim, Julius Caesar, and Alexander the Great? But one you've forgotten, He was actually the greatest and bloodthirsty Conqueror of all time. https://www.welt.de/img/geschichte/mobile115440721/3512504017-ci102l-w1024/zgbdc5-69pwlhbnbdu16b580kic-original-jpg.jpg And a very important point, all these conquerors (except Tiber Septim) had generals and a huge army. https://www.strategie-zone.de/forum/gallery/image/18024/source Not as in Skyrim where 10 Imperials against 10 Stormcloaks fight. Or a patrol of 3 soldiers, in Skyrim are the greatest fights of all time. If it were at least so! How can I forget about Genghis Khan. He completely slipped my mind. But yes, he is the greatest of all time. About Skyrim and it's small "battles." That's why I've always wanted a Tamriel Total War. Set either in Tiber Septim's time or the second Great War. The "battles" in Skyrim were lackluster.
Guest Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Who said anything about ruling? This is a conqueror Only need them to submit to the conqueror's power. So your character walks into a village alone and demands that all the guards and townsfolk submit to his/her will? They'll be cut down in no time.
Jexsam Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Seems the main stumbling block is OP's two-dimensional idea of what am evil conqueror is. Further confusing matters, they use the term "takeover", but in subesquent posts contradicts that very idea by saying they don't want to rule anything. What you've described isn't a conqueror, it's a murderous force of nature that exists only to kill whatever gets in its way. If we were to look at Google's definition: con·quer ˈkäNGkər/Submit verb overcome and take control of (a place or people) by use of military force. So by its very nature, a conqueror must be at least militarily political, with an army consisting of minions that are at least loosely organized, and must aim to control the place they are conquering.
Kaz Aanh Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 . . . but it also requires doing the annoying political stuff by having supporters (why would an evil conqueror bother with that?). How do you expect to maintain your rule without soldiers, advisers, bureaucrats, and treasurers? Have you ever pledged yourself to the chaos gods? They have no needs for money, food or whores. They fight for glory and notice-me-senpai-gods. Sadly half npc being essential kinda breaks immersion, also no desctructible villages. Can't raise army of undead without getting CTD around whiterun
Mud Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 The closest thing I could imagine would be using a home mod involving a castle or player-run town of some sort alongside mods like Paradise Halls to allow you to capture prisoners. Assuming the home or base is self-sufficient with its own merchants and such, the player could routinely go on marauding runs to rampage through towns and take NPCs as their prize before returning home to bind them up or do whatever it is the player normally likes to do with helpless townspeople.
GimmeBACON Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 Have you ever pledged yourself to the chaos gods? They have no needs for money, food or whores. They fight for glory and notice-me-senpai-gods. I get your point, but those characters Definitely have need for food and whores... main reason they do what they do is to get food and women without putting the labor into making a thriving settlement. On topic, that playstyle feels like a hard RP style, meaning mods like Realistic Needs, and Frostfall should be used... and if you feel dedicated, play a 'dead is dead' playstyle. To bad the game doesn't allow wars in all the major cities, so you can't leave all the cities fucked up like Whiterun after the battle for it, or damageable buildings, so you could take torches and burn them down.
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