Some Sexouty dialogue lines are missing

[Santr]

- No lines for PC-initiated 'Sexout Hookups'. NPCs do approach, and it works normally when that happens.

 

- No lines for 'Sexout Companions' sexing. A line for Veronica appeared once, at first meeting, and hasn't been seen since. Cass's never appeared at all. Whiskey/wine/mentats are present in Courier's inventory.

 

Mod list/order:

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

WMVM.esm

Companion Core.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

RobCo Certified.esm

Sexout.esm

SexoutCommonResources.esm

SexoutSlavery.esm

SexoutLegion.esm

oHUD.esm

Lings.esm

MikotoBeauty.esm

DFB - Random Encounters.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

Mission Mojave - Ultimate Edition.esp

MMUE-CP-PNCore.esp

MMUE-CP-PNEquipment.esp

MMUE-CP-PNRebalance.esp

MoonShadowRace.esp

MojaveDelight.esp

bzArmour.esp

K2_GirlieGirlRaiderWitch_NV.esp

K2LotusSpike_NV.esp

T6M CH Raider Armor.esp

T6M Combat Uniform NV.esp

K2_EM Girls_NV.esp

Type3 Leather Armors.esp

NWIxiaarmor1.esp

jailhouserockette.esp

NVLadyoutfit1.esp

BBTombRaider.esp

Type3MClothing.esp

Type3MClothing_HH.esp

Type3MClothing_OWB.esp

Sunset Sarsaparilla Star Caps Random Luck.esp

EpF-BetterPerkDescriptions.esp

Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp

Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp

Project Nevada - Old World Blues.esp

Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp

Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp

MMUE-CP-PNOWB.esp

Vurt's WFO.esp

DeadMoneyEquipmentFixes.esp

Honest Hearts - Grunt Fix.esp

NVDLC04 Allegiance w Duster.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

Centered 3rd Person Camera.esp

Vanity Camera Smoother.esp

GoodspringsPlayerHome.esp

NVHomestedCompanionEdit.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

dD - Smaller Spatters Realistic.esp

dD - Smaller Wounds.esp

WeaponModsExpanded.esp

EVE FNV.esp

EVE FNV-[GRA Patch for EVE 1.3].esp

MMUE-CP-EVE.esp

Project Nevada - EVE.esp

Project Nevada - WMX.esp

WMX-DeadMoney.esp

WMX-HonestHearts.esp

WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

WMX-EVE.esp

WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp

WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp

WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp

WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp

KillingKarmaFix.esp

AllCompanionsEssential 2.0b.esp

MyAngelicVeronica.esp

NVWillow.esp

SunnyCompanion.esp

Follower Wait Time 10000000.esp

MikotoBeauty.esp

Improved Sound FX.esp

Improved Sound FX - Project Nevada.esp

Improved Sound FX - WMX - Merged Major DLCs.esp

Improved Sound FX - WMX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp

Improved Sound FX - WMX - GRA Sharing Fix.esp

Improved Sound FX - EVE.esp

ELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.esp

Imp's Timescale Adjuster.esp

SexoutZAZ.esp

SexoutDiscounts.esp

SexoutFadeToBlack.esp

Sexout Certified.esp

SexoutLobos.esp

SexoutHookupsAlt.esp

SexoutPowderGangers.esp

SexoutFiends.esp

SexoutKhans.esp

SexoutKings.esp

SexoutNCR.esp

SexoutWorkingGirl.esp

SexoutConsequences.esp

SexoutCompanions.esp

SexoutRapist.esp

SexoutBrutalRapers.esp

SexoutLust.esp

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Everything is up to date (19.07.2012) and always updated via clean saves.

[zippy57]

I found part of your problem. From the SexoutHookups OP:

Requirements:

1. This is needed to use the plugin at all

- Sexout

2. These are "requirements"' date=' use them to get additional features.

- Smalltalk Let's you talk to characters that don't have dialogue from before. Only needed when they are following you to a more private location and you want to start conversation with them.

- MCM adds a menu system where you can:

- change the multiplier for approaches

- enable/disable some factions from approaching you.[/quote']Click here to download that feature's requirements.

[Kashked]

Sexout Hookups doesn't let you initiate sex, you need SexoutSex for that, and you need SexoutCompanions for sex with companions.

[Santr]

Actually, SmallerTalk isn't a requirement-requirement for Hookups, since it only enables 'hooking up' with NPCs without dialogues. And I clearly remember SexoutHookups dialogues showing up for NPCs with dialogues up until a week or so ago, since I haven't had SmallerTalk installed for a very long time.

 

As a long shot, the disappearance may have coincided with one of the recent SexoutNG/SCR updates, but I don't think there's anything specifically related to dialogues in their changelogs.

 

I haven't tried starting a new game, yet, though I don't know if it would be any different from a clean-save update/reinstall in regards to fixing the missing dialogues. Will try later today.

[prideslayer]

Nothing in NG has touched dialogs like... ever. The last 2-3 beta releases of .67 have been messing with how the dialog callback hooks are implemented, but that's all working now, and isn't a system that hookups or the companion mod use.

 

If you think sexout itself is to blame, I always keep 4-5 older versions of it in the core file you download, so you can try one of the older ones if you like. They're in the backups directory and named stuff like "Sexout_1.4.65.esm.bak".

 

Sorry about the '.bak' bit, I had to do that to prevent FOMM from crying about ESM files outside the data directory.

 

I don't think SCR has touched anything there either.

 

A clean save is just as good as starting over.

 

Since you're having trouble specifically with companions, I'd start by disabling any non-sexout companion mods you have, as well as smalltalk/smallertalk, and see if that fixes your issue.

[Kashked]

Actually' date=' SmallerTalk isn't a [i']requirement[/i]-requirement for Hookups, since it only enables 'hooking up' with NPCs without dialogues. And I clearly remember SexoutHookups dialogues showing up for NPCs with dialogues up until a week or so ago, since I haven't had SmallerTalk installed for a very long time.

 

 

I'm sorry, but you are confusing SexoutHookups with SexoutSex. Hookups makes NPC's approach YOU, nothing else. SexoutSex allows you to approach NPC's (including some but not all followers I think, I'm unsure about that), while SexoutCompanions is the mod that allows you to have sex with any of the vanilla companions + ImprovedSunnysmiles.

[Santr]

I'm sorry' date=' but you are confusing SexoutHookups with SexoutSex. Hookups makes NPC's approach YOU, nothing else. SexoutSex allows you to approach NPC's (including some but not all followers I think, I'm unsure about that), while SexoutCompanions is the mod that allows you to have sex with any of the vanilla companions + ImprovedSunnysmiles.

[/quote']

Hmm, now that I think about it, I may have packaged SexoutSex along with SexoutNG into one FOMOD, back when the latter wasn't yet released as FOMOD itself. And if I did, it seems I have forgotten to reinstall SexoutSex separately. Will reinstall it later today and see it solves the PC 'hookups' issue, thanks.

 

If you think sexout itself is to blame' date=' I always keep 4-5 older versions of it in the core file you download, so you can try one of the older ones if you like. They're in the backups directory and named stuff like "Sexout_1.4.65.esm.bak".[/quote']

I don't believe Sexout is to blame, either. As I've described in my answer to Kashked, one of the issues is likely related to my forgetting to include one of the addons when I updated Sexout to its first FOMOD release.

But I'll keep the older versions in mind, just in case - thanks for telling me about them.

 

Since you're having trouble specifically with companions, I'd start by disabling any non-sexout companion mods you have, as well as smalltalk/smallertalk, and see if that fixes your issue.

Will do.

[Santr]

Alright, an update:

 

1) PC not being able to hookup was indeed caused by absent SexoutSex. Thanks again, Kashked.

 

2) Still no SexoutCompanion dialogues after uninstalling all companion mods and companion modifications, as well as RobCo Certified, SexoutCertified and SexoutLobo.

Loading up all active mods in FNVEdit, I see no conflicts of any kind with SexoutCompanions, either.

There a few mods that modify unrelated 'Dialogue Topic', so I guess I'll have to try removing them one by one next.

[prideslayer]

You can try just loading sexoutcompanion last, and smallertalk or smalltalk just before that. I don't think smallertalk should be required for a voiced NPC but you never know.

 

Open the companion esp in fnvedit and look at the included dialogs, and you can try initiating them manually in game with startconversation in the console as well.

[Santr]

You can try just loading sexoutcompanion last' date=' and smallertalk or smalltalk just before that. I don't think smallertalk should be required for a voiced NPC but you never know.[/quote']

Erm, there doesn't seem to be any requirement for Small(er)Talk in SexoutCompanions. I've also noticed that right after [clean] installing SexoutCompanions, its dialogue option does appear for Veronica (but not Cass) only once, works as intended and then disappears forever (unless I clean-reinstall the addon again).

 

Open the companion esp in fnvedit and look at the included dialogs, and you can try initiating them manually in game with startconversation in the console as well.

Heh, that's probably a bit too much immersion-breaking trouble to go through for such a minor addition to gameplay.

Oh well, if I can't get it to work normally (and I've run out of mods I'm willing to disable), then I'll just have to do without.

 

 

 

In other news, the PC-initiated 'hooking-up' is now getting me stuck in an infinite 'NPC's after-sex comment' loop. WILL THIS NIGHTMARE NEVER END?

And I've run into exactly the same looping problem with Powder Gangers Tryouts described in this thread. Except, it happens for me with or without having Hard Prison Time installed - simply defying Eddie in the first conversation is enough to trigger it.

[prideslayer]

Are you using the sexout beta? If so is it the latest one?

[Santr]

Are you using the sexout beta? If so is it the latest one?

Yep' date=' but not the very latest one by now: 2.4.67b[b']6[/b].

[prideslayer]

If you're going to use the beta (especially if you're going to bug report with the beta) it's always important to use the most recent one. A bug in one of the earlier versions had an infinite-callback-dialogue bug.

 

Test again either with the release version, or with the latest beta.

[Santr]

If you're going to use the beta (especially if you're going to bug report with the beta) it's always important to use the most recent one. A bug in one of the earlier versions had an infinite-callback-dialogue bug.

 

Test again either with the release version' date=' or with the latest beta.

[/quote']

Oh god, I'm head-desking from my own stupidity pretty hard, right now. Guess what I forgot to do? Why, to update NVSE Extender to v7, of course! It just sat there, in my downloads, minding its own business for the last two days, while I was tearing my hair out and reinstalling every mod I had one by one.

 

No looping for SexoutSex, now. Will check Tryouts later, but I expect that issue to have been solved by this, as well.

 

Thanks, prideslayer. I probably wouldn't have stumbled on this for a long time had I not gone to check Sexout's latest versions and see your reminder to install NVSEEv7. In bold letters. Twice.

[prideslayer]

haha ok, taht would do it.

[prideslayer]

I'll add an extender version check to the next beta of sexout so it'll be able to catch that.