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7 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

With what did you overwrote your spiders?

I did all of this and the Billyy Spider animations still don't show up in the animation loader:

maybe your mod manager or antivirus is just fucking with you by not updating/replacing the effected files:

Data\tools\GenerateFNIS_for_Users\BehavioredObjects.txt

Data\Meshes\actors\frostbitespider\behaviors\frostbitespiderbehavior_TEMPLATE.txt

Data\Meshes\actors\frostbitespider\behaviors\frostbitespiderbehavior.hkx (and all other hkx files in this folder)

 

delete all of theses files by hand and then install the newest FNIS creature pack, then use generatefnisformodders.exe on all spider animaton fnis list files, then use the GenerateFNISforUsers.exe last.

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1 minute ago, xboxking37 said:

I did all of this and the Billyy Spider animations still don't show up in the animation loader:

Wait, what?

 

Billy SLAL animations:

  • can't be chosen in SLAL MCM? (do other Billy animations show up in SLAL MCM?)
  • can't be chosen for SL animations? (did you check SL MCM if they successfully registered, check if you are over 500 creature animations in SL MCM debug page)

Or are spider animations not working?

Those are COMPLETELY different issues.

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3 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Wait, what?

 

Billy SLAL animations:

  • can't be chosen in SLAL MCM? (do other Billy animations show up in SLAL MCM?)
  • can't be chosen for SL animations? (did you check SL MCM if they successfully registered, check if you are over 500 creature animations in SL MCM debug page)

Or are spider animations not working?

Those are COMPLETELY different issues.

can't be chosen in SLAL MCM and other Billy animations show up in SLAL MCM and spider animations are not working

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30 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

delete all spider behavior hkx files and remake them with generatefnisformodders.exe, then run GenerateFNISforUsers.exe and reregister the animations in game.

What do you mean by "remake them with generatefnisformodders.exe"?

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23 minutes ago, xboxking37 said:

can't be chosen in SLAL MCM and other Billy animations show up in SLAL MCM and spider animations are not working

How did you manage that?

Just to make sure: SLAL = SexLab Animation Loader, SL = Sexlab Framework

 

Even if Spider animations ingame aren't working as intended an installed SLAL pack would show up it's animations in SLAL MCM.

To have missing SLAL entries of Billy SLAL Animation pack the pack must be damaged already or not installed completely or you deleted files of it or you manipulated files of it.

 

In addition: If you can't register Billy spider animations ingame via the SLAL MCM they can't be called by SL because they don't get registered there.

The next questions would be:

Do vanilla animations of spiders still work? (would be funny if they T pose)

Do other SL animations with spiders work unrelated to Billy SLAL?

 

The first thing I would check:

Either reinstall the whole Billy SLAL pack from scratch (inclusive completely removing it from your mod manager and download it again and add it manually to your mod manager).

Or check if its files got installed by comparing the files from the SLAL pack with what got installed (spider related).

If you use the newest Billy SLAL pack you might found a bug, in that case fall back to an earlier version of Billy SLAL pack.

 

If other SL animations for spiders fail ingame:

check FNIS for errors

check overwrites of MNC and any related mods (any mesh replacers installed for spiders unrelated to MNC supported creatures?)

 

(you aren't installing all mod files manually don't you? ?)

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5 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

How did you manage that?

Just to make sure: SLAL = SexLab Animation Loader, SL = Sexlab Framework

 

Even if Spider animations ingame aren't working as intended an installed SLAL pack would show up it's animations in SLAL MCM.

To have missing SLAL entries of Billy SLAL Animation pack the pack must be damaged already or not installed completely or you deleted files of it or you manipulated files of it.

 

In addition: If you can't register Billy spider animations ingame via the SLAL MCM they can't be called by SL because they don't get registered there.

The next questions would be:

Do vanilla animations of spiders still work? (would be funny if they T pose)

Do other SL animations with spiders work unrelated to Billy SLAL?

 

The first thing I would check:

Either reinstall the whole Billy SLAL pack from scratch (inclusive completely removing it from your mod manager and download it again and add it manually to your mod manager).

Or check if its files got installed by comparing the files from the SLAL pack with what got installed (spider related).

If you use the newest Billy SLAL pack you might found a bug, in that case fall back to an earlier version of Billy SLAL pack.

 

If other SL animations for spiders fail ingame:

check FNIS for errors

check overwrites of MNC and any related mods (any mesh replacers installed for spiders unrelated to MNC supported creatures?)

 

(you aren't installing all mod files manually don't you? ?)

I install the mods through Vortex

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18 minutes ago, xboxking37 said:

Is the FNIS supposed to say this:

 4486 animations for 18 mods and 44 creatures successfully included.

Or is something wrong?

You need to post the whole FNIS output (in a spoiler!) or there isn't anything to see. ^^

 

11 minutes ago, xboxking37 said:

I install the mods through Vortex

I saw you have installed Piffy's SE conversation of Billy SLAL. You hopefully uninstalled that first.

If you have older Billy SLAL packs installed also uninstall those first.

Make sure you grabbed the SE version of Billy: SLAL_Billyy_Animations v5.5 SE.7z

 

For everything else post (in spoilers):

Skyrim version

Load Order

Mod List

complete FNIS output including the warnings (EVERYTHING)

 

Oh my, you have spider issues since April 24, 2021 ?

In that case: start a tech support topic in SE here: https://www.loverslab.com/forum/73-technical-support-skyrim-special-edition/

Add all the details from above (LO and FNIS)

There seems to be a bigger issue with your game than just Billy spiders.

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3 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

You need to post the whole FNIS output (in a spoiler!) or there isn't anything to see. ^^

 

I saw you have installed Piffy's SE conversation of Billy SLAL. You hopefully uninstalled that first.

If you have older Billy SLAL packs installed also uninstall those first.

Make sure you grabbed the SE version of Billy: SLAL_Billyy_Animations v5.5 SE.7z

 

For everything else post (in spoilers):

Load Order

Mod List

complete FNIS output including the warnings (EVERYTHING)

 

oh my, you have spider issues since Posted April 24, 2021 ?

Spoiler

FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL   4/2/2022 2:08:10 PM
Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.6.353.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: Default (99 bones)   male: Default (99 bones)
Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations"  
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  

Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ...     ChAnims:298     CTD:1.8%     pOpt:0.5%
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ...     ChAnims:145     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...     ChAnims:136     CTD:0.8%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ...     ChAnims:185     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading BaboHorribleHarassment V5 ...     ChAnims:41     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ...     ChAnims:473     CTD:3.2%     pOpt:0.9%
Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ...     ChAnims:344     CTD:2.1%     pOpt:0.5%
Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ...     ChAnims:140     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ...     ChAnims:30     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ...     ChAnims:536     CTD:3.3%     pOpt:0.8%
Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ...     ChAnims:243     CTD:1.5%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ...     ChAnims:110     CTD:0.7%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ...     ChAnims:845     CTD:5.2%     pOpt:1.3%
Reading Billyy_HumanDD V1.0 ...     ChAnims:370     CTD:2.3%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ...     ChAnims:182     CTD:1.1%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading Billyy_HumanFurnitureInvis V1.0 ...     ChAnims:292     CTD:1.8%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading Billyy_HumanFuta V1.0 ...     ChAnims:168     CTD:1.0%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ...     ChAnims:300     CTD:1.9%     pOpt:0.5%
Reading BodySearchAnims V1.0 ...     ChAnims:12     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading BodySearchMotion V1.0 ...     ChAnims:2     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading Defeat V5 ...     ChAnims:84     CTD:1.0%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading EstrusChaurus V4.35 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISBase V7.6 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISSexyMove V7.2 ...     ChAnims:21(18)     CTD:3.3%     pOpt:2.2%
        NOTE: FNISSexyMove has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided
Reading FunnyBizAmp V8.0 ...     ChAnims:45     CTD:0.3%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FunnyBizBeastly V1.0 ...     ChAnims:90     CTD:0.6%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ...     ChAnims:170     CTD:1.1%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ...     ChAnims:252     CTD:1.5%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ...     ChAnims:276     CTD:1.7%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ...     ChAnims:30     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ...     ChAnims:8     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FunnyBizMolag V1.0 ...     ChAnims:277     CTD:1.7%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading FunnyBizNecro V10.0 ...     ChAnims:328     CTD:2.1%     pOpt:0.5%
Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ...     ChAnims:200     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ...     ChAnims:362     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ...     ChAnims:80     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...     ChAnims:344     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading SexLab V1.64 ...     ChAnims:882     CTD:5.6%     pOpt:1.5%
Reading SexLabAP V1.64 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ...     ChAnims:5     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SexLabCreature V1.64 ...     ChAnims:177     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading SexLab_Aroused_Creatures V1.0 ...     ChAnims:1     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ...     ChAnims:23     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading zzEstrus V2.50 ...     ChAnims:277(12)     CTD:3.6%     pOpt:0.2%

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
No GENDER directory male
No GENDER directory female
Alternate Animation mods: 3 sets: 7 total groups: 35 added file slots: 214 alternate files: 30

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ...
Reading HCOSWildlife V1.0 ...
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ...
Reading Defeat V?.? ...
Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ...
Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ...
Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ...
Reading BaboHorribleHarassmentCreature V1.0 ...
Reading SexLab_Aroused_Creatures V1.0 ...

 9068 animations for 46 mods successfully included (character)
ChAnims: 9068  CTD:62.5%  pOpt:16.9%  max: 14517  LC: 16342 (max. 26162)

 5560 animations for 18 mods and 44 creatures successfully included.

 

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6 minutes ago, xboxking37 said:

Skeleton(hkx) female: Default (99 bones)   male: Default (99 bones)

You miss a skeleton: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1988

If it's installed already, something went wrong.

Should show up in FNIS: Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)

Overwrite rules: overwrite XPMSE with MNC SLAL (and both with ABC HDT if you ever use it)

If you have any mods that come with own skeletons: don't let them overwrite XPMSE unless there is a good reason (like an explanation on the mod page).

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8 minutes ago, xboxking37 said:

It is installed

That might be, but it can't be read by FNIS = you have to start your trouble shooting there.

Is it overwritten? Correct version installed? Failed download? Something SE version specific? Crazy manual installation?

 

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1 minute ago, donttouchmethere said:

That might be, but it can't be read by FNIS = you have to start your trouble shooting there.

 

Okay I reinstalled the XPMSE and here's what I got:

Spoiler

FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL   4/2/2022 2:27:27 PM
Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.6.353.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)
Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations"  
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  

Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ...     ChAnims:298     CTD:1.8%     pOpt:0.5%
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ...     ChAnims:145     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...     ChAnims:136     CTD:0.8%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ...     ChAnims:185     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading BaboHorribleHarassment V5 ...     ChAnims:41     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ...     ChAnims:473     CTD:3.2%     pOpt:0.9%
Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ...     ChAnims:105     CTD:0.7%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ...     ChAnims:125     CTD:0.8%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ...     ChAnims:77     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ...     ChAnims:255     CTD:1.6%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ...     ChAnims:85     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ...     ChAnims:45     CTD:0.3%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ...     ChAnims:395     CTD:2.4%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading Billyy_HumanDD V1.0 ...     ChAnims:370     CTD:2.3%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ...     ChAnims:92     CTD:0.6%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading Billyy_HumanFurnitureInvis V1.0 ...     ChAnims:292     CTD:1.8%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading Billyy_HumanFuta V1.0 ...     ChAnims:168     CTD:1.0%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ...     ChAnims:30     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading BodySearchAnims V1.0 ...     ChAnims:12     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading BodySearchMotion V1.0 ...     ChAnims:2     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading Defeat V5 ...     ChAnims:84     CTD:1.0%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading EstrusChaurus V4.35 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISBase V7.6 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISSexyMove V7.2 ...     ChAnims:21(18)     CTD:3.3%     pOpt:2.2%
        NOTE: FNISSexyMove has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided
Reading FunnyBizAmp V8.0 ...     ChAnims:45     CTD:0.3%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FunnyBizBeastly V1.0 ...     ChAnims:90     CTD:0.6%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ...     ChAnims:170     CTD:1.1%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ...     ChAnims:252     CTD:1.5%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ...     ChAnims:276     CTD:1.7%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ...     ChAnims:30     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ...     ChAnims:8     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FunnyBizMolag V1.0 ...     ChAnims:277     CTD:1.7%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading FunnyBizNecro V10.0 ...     ChAnims:328     CTD:2.1%     pOpt:0.5%
Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ...     ChAnims:200     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ...     ChAnims:362     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ...     ChAnims:80     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...     ChAnims:344     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading SexLab V1.64 ...     ChAnims:882     CTD:5.6%     pOpt:1.5%
Reading SexLabAP V1.64 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ...     ChAnims:5     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SexLabCreature V1.64 ...     ChAnims:177     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading SexLab_Aroused_Creatures V1.0 ...     ChAnims:1     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ...     ChAnims:23     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ...     ChAnims:164(164)     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading zzEstrus V2.50 ...     ChAnims:277(12)     CTD:3.6%     pOpt:0.2%

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
No GENDER directory male
No GENDER directory female
Alternate Animation mods: 4 sets: 23 total groups: 65 added file slots: 384 alternate files: 194

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ...
Reading HCOSWildlife V1.0 ...
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ...
Reading Defeat V?.? ...
Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ...
Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ...
Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ...
Reading BaboHorribleHarassmentCreature V1.0 ...
Reading SexLab_Aroused_Creatures V1.0 ...

 7711 animations for 47 mods successfully included (character)
ChAnims: 7711  CTD:56.3%  pOpt:14.6%  max: 13708  LC: 14717 (max. 26162)

 4486 animations for 18 mods and 44 creatures successfully included.

 

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11 minutes ago, xboxking37 said:

Okay I reinstalled the XPMSE and here's what I got:

Just reinstalled and it works already ?

Anyways, now make sure (I don't know how that works with Vortex) MNC overwrites XPMSE (set rules with vortex).

Test on a new game. Wait for all mods to load and check SLAL MCM.

If you change something on mods with animations always run FNIS again.

Best if you use any kind of alternate start mod (with a starter cell) to circumvent the Skyrim intro (quicker testing, no interference by the intro)

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4 minutes ago, xboxking37 said:

Okay so I have SE Billyy's SLAL Animations Rape Redux installed and I think it might be the problem?

Yes >.<

Changes to the official SLAL Pack

- Reduced SLAL animation count (roughly 100)

- added Aggressive, AggressiveDefault tag to some animations

- replaced "MovingDick" tag for ABC anims with "ABC".
- renamed ABC animations to have (ABC) in the name

- removed most clearly consensual animations with humans and also animals
- Mammoth, Hare (Rabbit), Slaughterfish were completly removed. 

 

Means you want the whole Billy SLAL pack but you installed a mod to reduce animations.

The one that wins the overwrites shows it's animations in SLAL MCM.

Drop that and continue testing only with the full Billy pack from here.

 

Another thing: If you use also Naked Defeat (ND) for testing during defeats: you need to activate spider animations in ND MCM, they have their own setting in there (maybe @Nymra has arachnophobia)

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5 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Yes >.<

Changes to the official SLAL Pack

- Reduced SLAL animation count (roughly 100)

- added Aggressive, AggressiveDefault tag to some animations

- replaced "MovingDick" tag for ABC anims with "ABC".
- renamed ABC animations to have (ABC) in the name

- removed most clearly consensual animations with humans and also animals
- Mammoth, Hare (Rabbit), Slaughterfish were completly removed. 

 

Means you want the whole Billy SLAL pack but you installed a mod to reduce animations.

The one that wins the overwrites shows it's animations in SLAL MCM.

Drop that and continue testing only with the full Billy pack from here.

 

Another thing: If you use also Naked Defeat (ND) for testing during defeats: you need to activate spider animations in ND MCM, they have their own setting in there (maybe @Nymra has arachnophobia)

Okay I have SL Animation Loader SE, SLAL SE Creature Animations by Sailing Rebel (SRB) v02.0, SLAL_AnimationsByLeito_v1.6SE and SLAL_Billyy_Animations v5.5 SE

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