lukaskalho123 Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Hello guys, I've recently installed my skyrim, some mods (180+ actually), used TES5 Edit to clean, Loot to sort, and all those necessary stuff. But, i can't make my game run for more than 15 minutes since the character creation, i aways get CTD or my screen freezes but the BGM keeps playing. I did some reseach about papyrus to find the errors myself, but i just cant figure out what i did wrong. Hope you guys can help this poor soul. P.S: Im a MO user. here is the load order: Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmUnofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp[JmV]LTTF.esmSkyrim Project Optimization.esmWM Flora Fixes.esphdtHighHeel.esmApachiiHair.esmSGHairPackBase.esmPubicMeshColorRE.esmSchlongs of Skyrim - Core.esmSexLab.esmZaZAnimationPack.esmdaymoyl.esmSexLabAroused.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espMainMenu.espNo Dragon LODs v2 full.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espDragon Combat Overhaul.espdD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espFSS-No pause between lines.espethereal_elven_overhaul.espXPMSE.espFNIS.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espUNP Undies.espBetter Dragon Breath (BALANCED).espThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espRaceMenuMorphsUUNP.espSexy Armor Package.espKS Hairdo's.espSotteta Necromancer Outfit.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espWeapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.espBook of UUNP Iron And Steel.espWAFR - Book of UUNP.espBook of UUNP No Skimpy.espSmithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.espComplete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.espEmpoweredMagic.espRelationship Dialogue Overhaul.espspellsneak.espDead Body Collision.espSkyrim Project Optimization.espTembtra Thief Armor.espMerta Assassin Armor.espGwelda Red Riding Hood.espCassandra Frost Witch.espNS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.espNorthgirl.espTiwa44_Minidresses.espTiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.espTKDodge.espAMatterOfTime.espFacelight.espExtended UI.espSIDT - Complete.espSIDT - Skyrim.espRacial Traits Improved.espProper Aiming.espAuto Unequip Ammo.espSGEyebrows.espEyes of Aber.espMikanEyes All in one.espBrows.espFNIS_PCEA2.espEmpoweredMagic_Dawnguard.espEmpoweredMagic_Dragonborn.espPotions.espACE Enchanting.espImmersive Weapons.espACE Archery.espSexLab-AmorousAdventures.espMerta Black Rose Armor.espSotteta Huntress Armor.espPath of Shadows.espACE Melee.espSchlongs of Skyrim.espSOS - Shop.espSkyUI.espLoversComfort.espMagna Carta Armor.espGwelda Armor Pack.espACE Armor.espACE Speech.espIsh's Souls to Perks.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espMaddBag.espEmfy Cleric Robes.espDaedric Reaper Armor.espACE Synergy.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espACE BYOG.espACE Realistic Fighting.espSGHairPackAIO.espPC Head Tracking - MCM.espPC Head Tracking - Patch.espTrueEyes.espSGHair33x144.espKS Hairdos - HDT.espExtended Slider Colors.espSchwertleite Set.espUnique Uniques.espPlayRandomIdle.espDolls.espImproved Eyes Skyrim.espImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.espFreckleMania.espFantasy Soundtrack Project.espDimachaerus.espDual Wield Parrying_SKSE.espSOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.espSOSRaceMenu.espSLAnimLoader.espDuel - Combat Realism.espUIExtensions.espEasyWheel.espDual Sheath Redux.espSexLab Romance.espSexLabMassMatchMaker.espSexLabTools.espSLALAnimObj.espSexLabFuck'EmUp.espSexLabDefeat.espSLA Monitor Widget.espNewMikanEyes.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espBashed Patch, 0.espASIS-Dependency.espASIS.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.esp I've attached my last papyrus log here,so you guys can take a look (And sorry for my bad english): Papyrus.0.log.7z
Gameplayer Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Hello guys, I've recently installed my skyrim, some mods (180+ actually), used TES5 Edit to clean, Loot to sort, and all those necessary stuff. But, i can't make my game run for more than 15 minutes since the character creation, i aways get CTD or my screen freezes but the BGM keeps playing. I did some reseach about papyrus to find the errors myself, but i just cant figure out what i did wrong. Hope you guys can help this poor soul. P.S: Im a MO user. here is the load order: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [JmV]LTTF.esm Skyrim Project Optimization.esm WM Flora Fixes.esp hdtHighHeel.esm <------Drop use NIOOverride for high heels, really easy to convert mods over with TESVedit ApachiiHair.esm <------Remove hair ESP/ESM's that your player character doesn't use, a lot of NPC type mods only require the mesh and textures to be installed to work example is NPC of Dibella. SGHairPackBase.esm PubicMeshColorRE.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm daymoyl.esm SexLabAroused.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp <---Remove High Res texture pack esp's from Skyrim\data when using Mod Organizer, not a huge impact but MO only needs the BSA's. HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp <----Remove it not really that important some claim it causes issues probably not though. MainMenu.esp No Dragon LODs v2 full.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp <---I don't know if this has gotten better but I swear its never worked well for me, to this day Deadly Dragons seems to be the best one to date, but heck Skytweak can make dragons and monsters powerful as well as provide slider check mark options for 100 different things as well. dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp FSS-No pause between lines.esp ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp XPMSE.esp <----I remove the ESP and scripts from the mod and just use the Skeleton this does save me on script overhead but some mods are better with the extra options just know that its script overhead you decide what to do from there. FNIS.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp UNP Undies.esp Better Dragon Breath (BALANCED).esp <---I don't know if its compatible with dragon overhauls The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp <-----Script overhead, I just use Skytweak to adjust this. RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp Sexy Armor Package.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp WAFR - Book of UUNP.esp Book of UUNP No Skimpy.esp Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp EmpoweredMagic.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp spellsneak.esp Dead Body Collision.esp Skyrim Project Optimization.esp Tembtra Thief Armor.esp Merta Assassin Armor.esp Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp Cassandra Frost Witch.esp NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp Northgirl.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp TKDodge.esp <---Script overhead AMatterOfTime.esp Facelight.esp Extended UI.esp SIDT - Complete.esp SIDT - Skyrim.esp Racial Traits Improved.esp Proper Aiming.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp <---Script overhead SGEyebrows.esp Eyes of Aber.esp MikanEyes All in one.esp Brows.esp FNIS_PCEA2.esp <---Script Overhead, I use the original but I have to make a patch usually cause every mod seems to edit races >< EmpoweredMagic_Dawnguard.esp EmpoweredMagic_Dragonborn.esp Potions.esp ACE Enchanting.esp Immersive Weapons.esp ACE Archery.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp Merta Black Rose Armor.esp Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp Path of Shadows.esp ACE Melee.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp<---Script overhead SOS - Shop.esp SkyUI.esp LoversComfort.esp Magna Carta Armor.esp Gwelda Armor Pack.esp ACE Armor.esp ACE Speech.esp Ish's Souls to Perks.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp <---Script overhead, not sure how much specific during spell use....Basically with all your combat mods you should be aware of spell mods that make use of scripts in a heavily scripted combat environment that this load order has. MaddBag.esp Emfy Cleric Robes.esp Daedric Reaper Armor.esp ACE Synergy.esp <----------------------------ACE is a very script heavy mod, its up to you to decide what to do with that, but mostly its the locational damage plus the active state change checks of is this character moving, weapon drawn, what weapon type....Its a fun mod but its definitely intense on the system in combat. TheEyesOfBeauty.esp ACE BYOG.esp ACE Realistic Fighting.esp <----Here it is the ACE plug that is responsible for what I mentioned above. SGHairPackAIO.esp PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp <----Script overhead may be light but you should be aware its a minor cosmetic as it is. PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp TrueEyes.esp SGHair33x144.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Extended Slider Colors.esp Schwertleite Set.esp Unique Uniques.esp PlayRandomIdle.esp <---Another minor cosmetic mod with script overhead. Dolls.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp <----A sound mod with script overhead FreckleMania.esp Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp Dimachaerus.esp Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp <--Script overhead, not really sure how bad it can be but just be aware you might cut it out for stability its an option anyway. SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp SLAnimLoader.esp Duel - Combat Realism.esp <---Definitely some script overhead but don't really know how bad UIExtensions.esp EasyWheel.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp <----There is script overhead, not really avoidable just know that you might consider it as option to remove. SexLab Romance.esp SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp SexLabTools.esp SLALAnimObj.esp SexLabFuck'EmUp.esp SexLabDefeat.esp <---Script overhead SLA Monitor Widget.esp NewMikanEyes.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp ASIS-Dependency.esp ASIS.esp <---Script overhead not sure how much. Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp I've attached my last papyrus log here,so you guys can take a look (And sorry for my bad english): Papyrus.0.log.7z There are 4 known modifications that will help with Skyrims old memory allotment. Having all 4 wont help you only really need one, a lot of people really like Crash Fixes but I prefer ENB's memory management myself. Here they are, SSME, original memory management tweak, no brainer easy to install. SKSE memory tweak, you have to make the SKSE.ini tweak yourself or download a premade off Nexus which works too. Crash Fixes, requires additional download plus some reading and tweaking on your end. ENB Boost, also requires you to read plus do some INI tweaking....This also opens the door for ENB Preset later which is totally worth it for better shadows than in base game if nothing else! Now Im going to put notes directly into your post, you don't have to agree with them but it is my thoughts on the particular combination of plugs. Some thoughts though for the most part a lot of ESP's are fine on their own its just that Skyrim is a 32 bit application so there are in fact hard limits on what the game can handle despite computer set ups and modifications. So figuring out what to remove for mods that are script overhead well that can be a real pain. Mostly you want to figure out how many to cut by trail and error sure but a decent indicator would be your FPS, as the CPU actually does some of the load there as well as handle scripted stuff...Scripts are often said to be tied to FPS maybe that's why. If your FPS is real bad well that might indicate the potential for a crash to happen. Maybe another poster can make some pointers too.
GenioMaestro Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 my first recomendation is edit you skse.ini and put a good value for memory manager... your log say: [10/11/2016 - 01:41:16AM] Memory page: 256 (min) 512 (max) 2457600 (max total) and must be: [10/08/2016 - 06:06:56PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total) i not use crash fix or enb.. only skse.. and have near 180 mod's now with Nexus Mod Manager.. none problem.. play for some hours...
lukaskalho123 Posted October 11, 2016 Author Posted October 11, 2016 There are 4 known modifications that will help with Skyrims old memory allotment. Having all 4 wont help you only really need one, a lot of people really like Crash Fixes but I prefer ENB's memory management myself. Here they are, SSME, original memory management tweak, no brainer easy to install. SKSE memory tweak, you have to make the SKSE.ini tweak yourself or download a premade off Nexus which works too. Crash Fixes, requires additional download plus some reading and tweaking on your end. ENB Boost, also requires you to read plus do some INI tweaking....This also opens the door for ENB Preset later which is totally worth it for better shadows than in base game if nothing else! Now Im going to put notes directly into your post, you don't have to agree with them but it is my thoughts on the particular combination of plugs. Some thoughts though for the most part a lot of ESP's are fine on their own its just that Skyrim is a 32 bit application so there are in fact hard limits on what the game can handle despite computer set ups and modifications. So figuring out what to remove for mods that are script overhead well that can be a real pain. Mostly you want to figure out how many to cut by trail and error sure but a decent indicator would be your FPS, as the CPU actually does some of the load there as well as handle scripted stuff...Scripts are often said to be tied to FPS maybe that's why. If your FPS is real bad well that might indicate the potential for a crash to happen. Maybe another poster can make some pointers too. Thanks for the reply guys, I play skyrim in a notebook, with compressed textures, performance tweaks and some mods it does pretty well and playable. I've used it to play skyrim for a pretty long time, but without great modifications to gameplay, perks, or sexlab content. So i decided to try doing some of these modifications, well... this started to happen. My FPS is mid to low due to low processor power (1.8 GHz Dual thread core, not sure if it have a real second core), it runs at 21~30 FPS at interiors and 11~20 at overworld. I have no intention to write a book, but i'll tell you what exactely i do before the game crashes: I start a new game > i spawn in the prision cell (alternative start) and load my preset character to speed up the process > i wait all those mods and MCM menus to install and load > when it finishes i open the MCM menu and install the mods that needs to click on installation button (death alternative, defeat, SL framework) and configure them accordly > i choose the dark brotherhood option and sleep > i pick my shrouded armor and my first assassinations > i exit the sanctuary (here maybe the game freezes w/ BGM still playing) > i walk to the first dungeon nearby (Halldir's Cairn) > when inside i kill the enemies and loot things (well, just if it doesnt crash right when i enter it). An important note is that i rarely leave the cave safely (without any save reload, or crash), and when i manage to do it, the game crashes or freezes in the entrace (after leaving the cave) or when i reach Falkreath. That takes me around 15~20 minutes to the crash at the dungeon. About memory management, i still dont now how to properly tweak the ini options of SKSE (i ruined a game trying), so i just get along with the preset i download from nexus (skyrim perfomance .ini, i guess). So links or simple explanations are welcome (god, im so lazy for asking that). Again, sorry if my english sounds bad.
Gameplayer Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 SKSE ini pre-download for lazy users, www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51038/?
GenioMaestro Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 try configure your game with BethINI.. your problem appear a machine limitation.. select the low options a look if work.. select: "BethINI Preset" and "Recomended Tweaks" start with Poor Preset... if you can play 1 hour try selecting Low... you have 140 mod's.. a lot of mod's for a low machine... disable some mod's not essentials.. the game experience change, of course, but maybe you can play more time... i recomend disable this: FNIS_PCEA2ASISACE... ACE have 8 mod's and change a lot of things... maybe is a bit heavy for your machine
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